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MP3 or NOT?

Ott^
OTT

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Posted : May 31, 2005 00:52
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On 2005-05-30 23:15, Spindrift wrote:
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On 2005-05-30 22:45, Ott^ wrote:
Speak for your self Spindrift.



Maybe you should first read the post and then speak your own opinion instead of your lame attempts at being funny.
Sure you make a lot more commercially viable music and sell a lot.
Ok...so you have the biggest cock...we can all agree.
Happy?

Now we got that out of the way...
If you think I agree that it's hopless to sell music in the future you didn't get my post at all.
Sorry if that was to subtle.




You sound angry and bitter.

Justin Chaos
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Posted : May 31, 2005 01:46
@Ott
You should check his "music"
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EYB
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Posted : May 31, 2005 05:51
Spindrifts music kicks otts ass 10 times            Signature
Spindrift
Spindrift

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Posted : May 31, 2005 12:33
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On 2005-05-31 00:52, Ott^ wrote:
You sound angry and bitter.



Sure your lame attempts to bring the discussion into a personal assault thread is a bit anoying and sad, especially since you are hardly a teen anymore and should know better one would think.

You are obviously not interested in the subject anymore after again posting your bitter rant about how hopless and futile it is to try to sell music and "milk the cow".

But, again, if you actually read my post and didn't stop after the first sentence because you thought you could deliver a smug and full of yourself personal attack diguised as a joke you would have noticed that I'm a lot more optimistic about selling trance compared to how you appear in your posts.

If I'm bitter about anything in this scene it's not about sales figures, it's people complaining that they only make a decent living but don't earn enough to buy a Porshe from thier record sales.
It's very different from the spirit that was in the scene when I got in to it, and it makes me a bit sad, or maybe even bitter you could say.

So 2-0 to you...you have the biggest cock and I'm the bitter one.
So...can we call it a game at this stage and leave the personal attacks out of the discussion from now on?
I don't think your Off The Topic posts contibute much to the subject, and if you want to keep it at a immature and personal level there is the PM system you can use.

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floatyhippyflower


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Posted : May 31, 2005 12:59
Oh for goodness sake Spindrift, get off your high horse. Everybody has an their own opinion and is perfectly entitled to it. I mean come on, someone makes a joke and now we get the full force of the Spindrift psyberyell? Honestly.....I hate all this moaning and bitching. It totally detracts from any constructive views people might actually have.

Sorry to sound mean and be so off topic myself here guys but everyone seems to be fucking ranting for nothing today and it's pissing me off.

Where have all the happy trancey dancers gone?????!

Dr. Mez


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Posted : May 31, 2005 13:10
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On 2005-05-11 12:21, ensonar wrote:
What are the reasons for judging people who don't live in such financialy developed country's as you are for buying or burning mp3's?
Financial standards are very diferent in country's of eastern europe so let see the reasons for and counter..
I know that this is eternal question on the scene but let's dill with it on this post!
please be MATURE with your reply's..
Thanxx..
..Ohm..



Let's be mature with replies. Let me phrase this - if you're poor and live in the US, is it ok then? Let's say the "earn money and buy it" deal isn't applicable even then... even though obviously there was enough money to buy a computer and high speed internet, which obviously cost more than 100 CDs, but let's ignore that fact. OK, so where do you draw the line income-wise for when it becomes theft? $400 a month? $800 a month?

Wait. This is RETARDED. That line doesn't exist. You do not need music to live - you don't need a computer or the f---ing internet to live. It is a LUXURY. And guess what, being poor doesn't make it ok to steal LUXURIES. You want to live like a king and not pay for it, well, be honest AND DEAL F---ING DRUGS FOR THE CASH YOU MAKE. That way at least you pay for what you use.

Robbing a CD store is OK if you don't have enough money to buy CDs? I know the shop's insured and the owner won't lose a cent. THAT STILL MAKES YOU A F---ING THIEF. You aren't stealing from the rich to feed the poor, guess what, music is not edible. It does not shelter you from weather, and so on. Music is for having fun. You want to steal stuff so you can have fun? Guess what, that's what you're doing.

And the most mature reply is a very simple one: You cannot justify a sin with another. Thou shalt not steal.
DETOX
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Posted : May 31, 2005 13:22
Nice words there Dr.Mez

By the way people should know that USA has a high rate of poverty in worldwide scale with 1 out of 5 people being poor according to the USA Authorities.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
floatyhippyflower


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Posted : May 31, 2005 13:27
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On 2005-05-31 13:22, DETOX wrote:
Nice words there Dr.Mez



You should read his other nice words here.
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/63704/forum/1/start/0
"Most people, the world would be better off without….these people should be shot, or at the very least, castrated"
Spindrift
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Posted : May 31, 2005 13:29
@floatyhippyflower
I agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion and if someone want to make an OT joke thats fine as well.
I didn't see OTT neither expressing an opinon or being funny though.
Is it funny to call someone bitter because you put a smiley after?

@Dr Mez
Read up on the geneva convention.
Culture is part of the human rights, and all citizens in a society should have access to culture.
Music is for having fun and is not edible, true.
But having fun should not be something priviliged only to rich countries or individuals.           (``·.¸(``·.¸(``·.¸¸.·`´)¸.·`´)¸.·`´)
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floatyhippyflower


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Posted : May 31, 2005 13:40
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On 2005-05-31 13:29, Spindrift wrote:
@floatyhippyflower
I agree that everyone is entitled to an opinion and if someone want to make an OT joke thats fine as well.
I didn't see OTT neither expressing an opinon or being funny though.
Is it funny to call someone bitter because you put a smiley after?


Well, aye.......?

And to put the record straight, I was in fact referring to the 'speak for yourself' comment, which started the whole thing off. Relax why don't ya!
Spindrift
Spindrift

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Posted : May 31, 2005 14:21
Aha...the "speak for yourself" comment was a funny joke and not attempt at being sarcastic and bring the discussion into an personal argument?
Maybe I have a strange sense of humor, but I didn't see the funny part of that either.

I totally agree with you that it's crap that all the discussions regarding this subject have to turn personal, and it would be much nicer to see a constructive dialog.
But since that seems to be impossible I'm outta here.           (``·.¸(``·.¸(``·.¸¸.·`´)¸.·`´)¸.·`´)
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HandA
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Posted : May 31, 2005 14:26
im want new Shoes... hey there's a Shoe Shop... I guess i'll just grap a pair and not pay!

Anyway it's good for the Shoe Shop. Now the shoes will be promoted to other Feet in town and the Shoe Shop will get more customers that will "grap" the other nice "free" Shoes.... It's very good for the Shoe Business!
Spindrift
Spindrift

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Posted : May 31, 2005 14:33
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On 2005-05-31 14:26, HandA wrote:
im want new shoes... hey there's a shoe shop... I guess i'll steal them!

Anyway it's good for the show shop. Now the shoes will be promoted to other feet in town and the shop will get more customers that will steal the nice shoes.... It's good for the shoe business!


Hehehe...I know you HandA...and you know me and what I think about that daft analogy.
But you attempt to provoke me back into the discussion will not work...
I did say I'm outta here and I meant it           (``·.¸(``·.¸(``·.¸¸.·`´)¸.·`´)¸.·`´)
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RaSSahMunKaBuh
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Posted : May 31, 2005 14:36
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On 2005-05-31 14:26, HandA wrote:
im want new Shoes... hey there's a Shoe Shop... I guess i'll just grap a pair and not pay!

if everybody would do this we could bring down nike and there would be no child labous in asia DD
HandA
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Posted : May 31, 2005 14:39
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On 2005-05-31 14:33, Spindrift wrote:
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On 2005-05-31 14:26, HandA wrote:
im want new shoes... hey there's a shoe shop... I guess i'll steal them!

Anyway it's good for the show shop. Now the shoes will be promoted to other feet in town and the shop will get more customers that will steal the nice shoes.... It's good for the shoe business!


Hehehe...I know you HandA...and you know me and what I think about that daft analogy.
But you attempt to provoke me back into the discussion will not work...
I did say I'm outta here and I meant it




No you misunderstand me then. I am not trying to provoke you at all. I am just trying to express how I see it. I know the race is lost and that we the artist need to adapt. But we dont have to like it and to me it's as simple as I made with the example of the shoe shop. I do think a lot of people are big time hippocrits and could easily afford to buy music if they only cared about supporting the artists as much as they care about their mobile phones, clothes, haircuts, solario tanning, tattoos, drugs, parties, cars. computers etc etc.

But I am also realistic and know that I cant force them to do anything. But one thing I can do is to speak my mind. At least they cant steal that away from me

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