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lazy_i
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Posted : May 20, 2005 01:43
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bottomline- we need labels- we wouldn't be here today arguing about all this music if it wasn't for them putting a certain structure and reference.
labels should also not forget to keep on improving their services with all the new technology available. and if it makes the product cheaper and more accessible for the audience then they would sell a whole lot more and touch much more people. and that's pure economics.
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Alisia~
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Posted : May 20, 2005 12:37
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On 2005-05-11 12:21, ensonar wrote:
What are the reasons for judging people who don't live in such financialy developed country's as you are for buying or burning mp3's?
Financial standards are very diferent in country's of eastern europe so let see the reasons for and counter..
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Sad and true
anyway i always buy the things that i really like, this is my gratitude to the creators |
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Aegon
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Posted : May 21, 2005 04:43
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I strongly disagree with OTT about his statement
"My own view is that trying to convince people to pay for something that can be had for free is pretty futile, but maybe when a few more labels have gone bust and the quality music starts to dry up, people will start to realise that - in the words of a mate of mine who runs a label - "You can't keep milking the cow if you're not going to feed it." "
I see a lot more newborn labels than dead ones, also great releases from every side of the scene (prog, full,chill etc.). Yes, some labels passed away, but i doubt that happened because of the mp3 sharing. There are plenty of new labels, which are doing quite well IMO, regardless of "official" and unreleased mp3s ;o
A lot of people used to promote the same view point before...Psytrance will die, the scene will decline, no more quality music will be released...etc.
In fact I see more great releases (&more i do not like, but i don't care much about them) , more and bigger festivals around the globe and more and more ppl involved in the scene :]
Also it seems to me that some ppl here does not understand how hard is actually to buy psytrance releases if you live outside EU, USA and probably Japan & few other countries in Asia
Hey ppl, get serious  there are only few retail shops here, and you can barely find any electronic music (much less psytrance)
Now go to psyshop, put some stuff in the cart and proceed to checkout, select Bulgaria from country list and click on "Place order" :] what you see is worldwide shipping :]]
"Order via internet is not possible in the moment." - this message won't appear if you select France for example :]
Some sites, like saikosounds, are willing to accept orders from here and even to deliver them :] but they require some strange procedures for credit card verification, like scanning both sides of CC ;o Seems pretty unsafe to me :]
The funny thing is that I actually bought some cd's (about 160) so it's not impossible...but believe me...it's hard :] and no way to get fresh stuff in reasonable time...
So I leech a lot and eventually buy the stuff i like :] |
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lazy_i
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Posted : May 21, 2005 15:41
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yeah guys but understand the risk it represent to send cds to some countries- if there is a fair chance of the cd never making it to the destination then there is no point so of course solutions should be found to help those guys acquiring new sounds without having recourse to the mp3 piracy... |
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Dainty Doll
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Posted : May 21, 2005 19:38
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----Dawn----
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Posted : May 26, 2005 22:31
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People say digital and downloading is ‘the future of music' but it isn't - it's 'the present'. Record companies know this and as broadband becomes the norm they know they will have to go down this road sooner or later to stay alive. The only problem is that they think this will be the answer to all their problems - but unless they go in ‘big-time’ they will just be treading water in a sea of pirates.
I think when it comes to piracy the vast majority of people fall into the 'Don't give a shit' category. Whenever someone starts a thread like this - nearly all of the posts will say 'piracy is wrong' - 'buy the music' - 'support the artists/labels' etc and spend the rest of the post eloquently explaining why - but thats because the people that actually DO buy the music tent to have strong moral opinions on the matter (or financial/personal interests) and like to let others know their feelings (they are the vocal minority).
The reality is that most people if given the chance WILL download music illegally rather than pay for it - it's just a fact (so don't shoot the messenger) - but you wont see many of these people posting on here because it's something they don’t like to admit - or can really justify if they do.
That’s just the way it is - and i'll be fucked if i know the answer. |
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Narcosis
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Posted : May 27, 2005 00:38
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Mp3s kills music too.
 Trance Sound As A Medium Towards Mystical Experience... |
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Tris
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Posted : May 28, 2005 18:11
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On 2005-05-26 22:31, ----Dawn---- wrote:
I think when it comes to piracy the vast majority of people fall into the 'Don't give a shit' category. |
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It seems at least someone don't :
"President Bush signed the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act (FECA) a couple of weeks ago. On the whole, this legislation benefits Hollywood by making it a federal crime to videotape films in movie theaters.
FECA also imposes stiff penalties of up to 10 years in prison for anyone caught distributing movies or songs prior to their commercial release dates."
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/22027/
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : May 30, 2005 15:04
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On 2005-05-28 18:11, Tris wrote:
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On 2005-05-26 22:31, ----Dawn---- wrote:
I think when it comes to piracy the vast majority of people fall into the 'Don't give a shit' category. |
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It seems at least someone don't :
"President Bush signed the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act (FECA) a couple of weeks ago. On the whole, this legislation benefits Hollywood by making it a federal crime to videotape films in movie theaters.
FECA also imposes stiff penalties of up to 10 years in prison for anyone caught distributing movies or songs prior to their commercial release dates."
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/22027/
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so from now on american prisons will host drug dealers,rapists,murderers,gang members and inpatient britney fans and star wars freaks.cool well done Mr president.
vote bush(sponsored by coca cola and coke)
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HandA
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Posted : May 30, 2005 15:31
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On 2005-05-11 15:13, blueOrb / Esoteric wrote:
@dot kite and spindrift
u think people would pay to dl mp3s when they could get it free of the net....think again.....
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Dear blueOrb / Esoteric,
I do! I do pay to download music (iTunes, e-music....etc..) and do you know what? This is a great service!
This will be the only way that music will be distributed in the near future! PERIOD !
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Tms
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please be realistic now.. The world have changed a lot.. people now have mobile phone bills, DVD expenses and many other electronic expenses.. Now they cant download their phone conversations or internet connections for free so they have to pay for it. So where do they save money then? On music. It's very easy and convenient. And you dont have to be very smart to see that even if a CD cost 1 US dollar people would still download it for free if possible. It's very very simple. a saved dollar is a saved dollar!
I agree that we the artist cant do much about the situation but at least be real. Most will never buy something they can get for free. No matter what format it's in! |
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Spindrift
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Posted : May 30, 2005 15:48
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HandA is right...there is no way to make money from selling music anymore, so artists and labels might as well give up on the idea.
I'm actually all for that, better focus on the music than the business surrounding it.
Although iTunes seems to be going ok, and people even buy bottled water that they could get free from the tap instead.
So I don't really think "it's very simple".
Ringtones for mobiles is possible to get for free as well...but the vast majority pay for the convenience the paid services give.
Instant micro payments to the mobile with built in mp3 player will most likely be the saviour for the mainstream music industry, and could maybe bring a bit more business to the trance scene.
But I still rather see trance going back to where it came from...the underground.
Free music for free parties for free people.
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Dovla
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Posted : May 30, 2005 22:35
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On 2005-05-19 17:37, Hodi wrote:
not having money isn't an excuse for stealing!
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tell that to the guy who is starving in the street and doesn't have any money to buy a loaf of bread
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Ott^
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Posted : May 30, 2005 22:45
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On 2005-05-30 15:48, Spindrift wrote:
....there is no way to make money from selling music anymore, so artists and labels might as well give up on the idea.
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Speak for your self Spindrift.
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Spindrift
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Posted : May 30, 2005 23:15
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On 2005-05-30 22:45, Ott^ wrote:
Speak for your self Spindrift.
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Maybe you should first read the post and then speak your own opinion instead of your lame attempts at being funny.
Sure you make a lot more commercially viable music and sell a lot.
Ok...so you have the biggest cock...we can all agree.
Happy?
Now we got that out of the way...
If you think I agree that it's hopless to sell music in the future you didn't get my post at all.
Sorry if that was to subtle.
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