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dNETv2
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Posted : Oct 21, 2004 04:37
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Some of us never really found Goa to be dance music, which is where it differs today. I PERSONALLY hate 'dance' music, and everything that comes with it. I found goa to be more free formed, fractal, paintings, artful, mind expasion tools.  Lots of heart, lots of detail, and extremely psychedelic while REALLY paying attention to what those old schoolers were doing with sound back then. Which I will add, took much more effort and talent in the not so hi-tech age. The not so perfect recordings gave the sound texture, and made it feel a bit more organic, rather than crystal clear sound. BTW, proven fact that alittle distortion is desirable on the ears, which is where that my come into play.
I dunno, I respect everyones opinions here. And understand there is good stuff everywhere and will jam to some Full on dark stuff every now and then, but not often.
...But Full-On isn't for everyone, nor is Goa. For anyone who was around 9-10 years ago knew there was something special there. It was a great time in the evolution of sound and psychedelics. Nothing quite touches you MENTALLY like tho records being produced back then. Great stuff...
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manu
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 13:50
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Ya melodic full on rules and so does some with power chords !! nothing like it to dance..
but to trip its not full on .. to enjoy ur trip on dance it has to be FULLON and it is rocking for sure.. ppl will never hate you if u play fullon.. they are always going to enjoy just like extacy |
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Fu Hsi
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 17:20
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Mike it's not that I don't agree with the opinion that u have brought out here but I want to extend my answer to other point, which is rather fantastic to my opinion...
Since my day one as Trance fan, I was sure that trance music and nature parties can't be separated. Trance was born to be played in open air ( woods, fields, mountains ) to groups of ppl using good sound systems and psy atmosphere. As u were speaking and saying all u had to say ( and it was a lot ) about what u like and dislike about Trance, u mentioned u don't go to parties and listen to it at home.
It's not that u can't have an opinion of your own, but it seems to me that up till now u missed more than 80% of what trance is all about.
IMO ofcourse
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Kaz
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Posted : Oct 23, 2004 18:33
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On 2004-10-23 13:50, manu wrote:
Ya melodic full on rules and so does some with power chords !! nothing like it to dance..
but to trip its not full on .. to enjoy ur trip on dance it has to be FULLON and it is rocking for sure.. ppl will never hate you if u play fullon.. they are always going to enjoy just like extacy
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Bullshit, talk for yourself, but please, don't talk in the name of everyone. There are at least 3 mistakes that you made due to this.
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Madpup
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Posted : Oct 24, 2004 17:48
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Very interesting discussion.
One point, I feel there are too many generalised statements such as; Psychelic Trance is meant to be this, psychedelic trance is meant to be that etc. Ultimately it is just some guys who want to create some good music on the computer for others to enjoy. And trance could mean many different things to many different people, some people enjoy it with one kind of drugs, some people with others, and some with no drugs at all.
Also I think that in any genre of music be it full-on, progressive, drum and bass, balalaika fusion etc, a really good, original track can be created. And there are some fanstastic full-on tracks out there, but unfortimanunantly a lot of really generic stuff as well. I think it is just due to the popularity that full-on currently enjoys.
Full-On craze is bound to end, some other genre/style will become more popular, lots of mediocre tracks will be produced in that genre and people will start complaining about that genre the way they do about full on (remember the minimal bashing of few years ago?)
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Oct 24, 2004 22:55
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Some Full-on is very psychedelic and some is not. Some progressive is fantastic and some is not so fantastic.
I listen to mostly chill-out and progressive, but i love artists like Vibe Tribe which i think are very psychedelic. I also enjoy Astrix's first album and his second album, i think there are moments where the albumes are simply good electronic music and othertimes his tracks are very psychedelic.
You cant blame Avi for all the copycats imho.
So my point is that i think full-on when made by the right people can be very psychedelic and enjoyable.
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Oct 25, 2004 02:26
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I do believe when the art is commercialized and has to be predefined to appeal to a larger groups of ppl looses its individual power of expression and becomes a standarized manufactured production. Originality gives way to maximum common denominator of massified and marketed sounds.
Full on is as trance today as the Israeli invasion was to goa in 97
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manu
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Posted : Oct 25, 2004 06:14
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On 2004-10-23 13:50, manu wrote:
Ya melodic full on rules and so does some with power chords !! nothing like it to dance..
but to trip its not full on .. to enjoy ur trip on dance it has to be FULLON and it is rocking for sure.. ppl will never hate you if u play fullon.. they are always going to enjoy just like extacy
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Bullshit, talk for yourself, but please, don't talk in the name of everyone. There are at least 3 mistakes that you made due to this.
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i dont care to figure out what three mistakes you r talking bout. |
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Oct 26, 2004 15:45
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too much to read 
But what kind of roxx are we talking about?
I'd like to be full on whiskey if its on rocks? 
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blueOrb
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Posted : Oct 26, 2004 17:48
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well manu....
first to trip the music dosnt have to be fullon......different people hyave different taste.....i trip on rock, chillout and many different types of music
second people like u discourage even good djs who would like to play progg and minimal or any other sort of trance other than fullon....
third people dont always enjoy on fullon and extacy for that matter.....some people even hate to trip on x......
all kaz was tryin to say is that different people have different views and what is right for u may not be for another.....now as this is an internatioonal forum with many people posting so talk for urself and not for everyone......
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manu
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Posted : Oct 27, 2004 06:27
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well manu....
first to trip the music dosnt have to be fullon......different people hyave different taste.....i trip on rock, chillout and many different types of music
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Dude.. i never said to trip u need fullon.. u got it completly wrong.. infact i said i find prog and other music better to trip..and fullon is just a dance trip for me.
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second people like u discourage even good djs who would like to play progg and minimal or any other sort of trance other than fullon....
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what are you saying !!?? hehe..wrong again.. inFACT i encourage and respect only non-fullon DJs ..coz making ppl trip and enjoy music on non-fullon music in todays 'fullon' psyscene its great job !! sadly u only get fullon music these days.
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third people dont always enjoy on fullon and extacy for that matter.....some people even hate to trip on x......
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ya many dont like it.. i am the one ..not hate but not preferred.
lastly all i meant is fullon rocks but it doesnt rule. |
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Mari.Morgan
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Posted : Oct 27, 2004 08:19
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On 2004-10-16 10:24, Pointy wrote:
Full on might have developed out of the old goa trance, but that doesnīt mean it carries any of itīs magic or spirit. That got lost on the way.
People are changeing, music is changeing and the substances people are using is also changeing.
Where psychedelica ruled, cocain and mdma took over.
And that reflects in the music as well.
mdma puts pink glasses on you and you loose your judgment, what is actually good and what isnīt.
Cocain clooses your heart chakra and pushes up your ego.
Full on has imo nothing to do with psychedelic music.
"Maybe what you call psychedelic is the crappy sound production?" MikeA was writing. "Not only" I answer, but I think that overproduced, perfect sounding tracks are absolutely boring after a short while of listening and (like Spindrift said) makes my "ears fall asleep".
"This is dance music after all." Itīs ok, if it works for you, it doesnīt make me dance. I guess it depends if you are describing dance as the sheer movement of the body, or as a journey of mind, body, soul and spirit.
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good points!
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manu
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Posted : Oct 27, 2004 13:12
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On 2004-10-16 10:24, Pointy wrote:
Full on might have developed out of the old goa trance, but that doesnīt mean it carries any of itīs magic or spirit. That got lost on the way.
People are changeing, music is changeing and the substances people are using is also changeing.
Where psychedelica ruled, cocain and mdma took over.
And that reflects in the music as well.
mdma puts pink glasses on you and you loose your judgment, what is actually good and what isnīt.
Cocain clooses your heart chakra and pushes up your ego.
Full on has imo nothing to do with psychedelic music.
"Maybe what you call psychedelic is the crappy sound production?" MikeA was writing. "Not only" I answer, but I think that overproduced, perfect sounding tracks are absolutely boring after a short while of listening and (like Spindrift said) makes my "ears fall asleep".
"This is dance music after all." Itīs ok, if it works for you, it doesnīt make me dance. I guess it depends if you are describing dance as the sheer movement of the body, or as a journey of mind, body, soul and spirit.
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good points!
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INDEED !!
agreed completely..
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nir getafix
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Posted : Oct 27, 2004 15:05
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dear mike ... u worte some good things .. but also alot of bull shit ....
in music its all about tast...
some peaple go into trance with full on .. and some peaple with minimal .. and some peaple from rok or metal ... its all about tast ...
u can say ... that for u full on r good music ..
but i think u need to come to my studio ..
we eat toogether L.S.D .. and heare only psychodelic music ... and then u wort a new
topics about your opinion abot music .....
cheers nir ...
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tR!k
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Posted : Oct 28, 2004 15:59
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i love FullOn........................it's the best of psytrance.....at least 4 me
ok. i've gotta admit that the melodic is good also, but......fullOn RuleZ |
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