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Pointy
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 09:24
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On 2004-10-18 00:11, flower wrote:
i have to say that the way i see/hear ppl talking about this (no matter in what forum or in what context) always looks like 
and that's a b--i--g disappointment
what can i say... if in the past trance ppl were to be considered loving and free
and embracing all kind and open minded and i can go on and on... 
nowdays it seems ppl are just waiting for a chance to say something bad
or just have a fight (net or real life)
it has sadly came to the state that if artists don't get bad review's they hardly get any 
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Flower, I think you are exaggerating.
Why is it a big disappointment, if people have different tastes and talk about that?
Are you suggesting people should only reply "yeah, that´s great" "Yes, I love that too", "yeah, totally agree with you". How boring would that be!?
How does "loving and free and embracing all kind and open minded" contradict having different opinions about music?
I never understood these words in the way, that we have to have the same opinions. It just means to respect the diversity.
Saying, that you don´t like a certain style of music, doesn´t mean, that you are not loving, or that you are excluding people.
I for one, was talking about my taste of music and not about banning MikeA from the forum, because he likes full on, or something. Where´s the fight?
"if artists don´t get bad reviews they hardly get any".  ...not from what I see, when I look into the review or top10 section.
Have a nice day and enjoy and dance to whatever music you feel to.
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Dominorbit
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 11:05
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No, i don´t think he meant that we all have to have the same opinion, but i have also been reading a lot of posts and topics for a long time and i can understand why he finds many reviews often being negative.
The statement doesn´t mean we all have to have same opinion, but as you said respect the DIversity.
And that also meansin my opinion to respect this guy´s point on this subject to.
The fight you´re looking for is everywhere. and there´s also respect and loving from many people to, But that kind of falling into shadows nowadays.
To the subject: I like fullon when i´m in the mood, But not all, since i´m mostly into more progressive music and it could be to fast for me:) When it comes to fullon or psy trance at all i really like to hear nice little mindgames and a nice melody. Simply A well built track:)
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ganjagil
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 11:07
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mmm what exactly is full on nowadays, before it used to be morning music like full power style and this is what i like and love and live for...but when i went to FMF i realised that this FULL ON formula is also used for some commercial music like GMS, infected blablabla! So i do not like full on if it's not like really coming from the soul! Actually to say it right i like every melodic music coming from the soul cause for me even like Shulman - In search for a meaningful moment is Full on! Keep dancing to the melodic Trance |
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Mike A
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 11:19
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ganjagil, you mean that once you heard that gms & im make formulated music you stopped hearing it?
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ganjagil
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 11:25
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no i do not mind formulated music as long as the sound is not commercial...what i mean is that they have a great beat but the melodies are commercial sounds and i do not like that...also example i hate the vocals of IM the production quality is great but the vocals man are nothing concerning trance! What i like is like Star-X, Silicon Sound, atomic pulse, serious isness, Altom and many more
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Trip-
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 12:30
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Mikez... no hard feelings, but when you start talking crap in public I react
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On 2004-10-16 03:27, Mike A wrote:
Full on music (especially melodic full on) is for me, a direct evolution from old school goa.
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come on! i can't believe ur letting this 'your opinion' sound like so much bullshit!
it is not evolution of goa. period. maybe for you it's evolution but I can't explain why - and i'm not sure even you can explain why.
Goa was built on musical content. Melody, harmonic progression, melodic basslines - special sounds that contributed the whole idea of the track, tracks that don't want to get out of your head, tracks that could actually make you cry and have thousand of goosepumps on ur back. what are you trying to compare here?
There is no evolution and no point in comparing full-on with musical pieces like from 8-10 years ago.
Melodicly speaking, Full On was since the dawn of time almost based on the same natural minor scale. Maybe for many it means nothing, but for me it shows a musical narrow-mindness. Goa was mainly influenced by exotic scales (which imo makes it much more interesting), but nevertheles was using the natural major and minor scales and pentatonics.
I would also like ppl who don't know anything about goa, to let room for others who've experienced it many times to explain their thoughts instead of saying something stupid like:
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On 2004-10-16 03:27, Mike A wrote:
Melodic full on is taking goa to the higher level. Calling it trash just because you can actually hear the bassline now and everything is clear and not a mush of sounds is being plain dumbasses. You had goa, you grew on it and you remember it as the good old days. That was the good music of back then and you didn't know anything better. If you actually listen to it today you will see that compared to today's music it is just bland. There are exceptions, with Hallucinogen - LSD being one of the best examples of it. But most of goa released back then is nothing compared to today's music. But since melodic full on tries to imitate, or rather innovate the classic goa people treat it like it is destroying something holy.
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I said 'stupid' not because I disrespect you on purpose, but because this is pure nonsense.
For me, music is good not because it was 'the good old days' like you keep shouting here - it's because it was good content music!
Just like today you have good music, so it was back then - and STILL stayed till today. And it doesn't have to do with sound quality AT ALL!
Actually, by saying this, you prove to me and many others - that you don't have any idea of what you are talking about. And of course the comparison of fullon to goa.
should I go on? what the hell is this:
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On 2004-10-16 03:27, Mike A wrote:
There was also so much crap released in goa that no one remembers it, maybe only collectors and real goa fanatics. Only the good was remembered and that's why goa is considered to be so good while in fact it was just your ordinary every day music.
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for crying out loud - 'so much crap released in goa that no one remembers' - maybe you can clarify for me what is that crap... maybe you remember it or something...
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On 2004-10-16 03:27, Mike A wrote:
Maybe what you call psychedelic is the crappy sound production?
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and like allways, everyone in the scene today who has the opportunity to bash the old music but himself listens to electronic ultraclean sounds instead, mentions the bad sound - im tired of explaining that music is not allways about bassline+kick perfect mix. It's amazing how many ppl think like that and then they say goa is crappy music.
so what do I conclude from this thread? another Goa-Bash without any idea of what it was or what it created.
and to Flower: you are correct. don't take me as an example though
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Pt.
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 12:38
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Just wanted to say that:
- All Goa is psytrance, but not all psytrance is Goa.
- All Cognac is Brandy, but not all Brandy is Cognac.
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HandA
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 12:45
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I agree 100% trip. But what do you expect from people that did not even have hair on their d**** when Goa was going strong? The "problem" with this scene is that no one today have a clue about what Goatrance actually is/were. They think is "Good Morning Israel" compilations and other crap like that. Music that in my opinion lead to Full On and did more damage than good to our scene.
But without Goa there would be no Full On. I have always believed that one should dig into history and experience what came before in order to be allowed to dish something. If you dont know the facts your just another ignorant person that think your opinion is the only opinion that matter.
But mark my word this Full on copy & paste hell will soon be long gone and then they Full On die hard fanatics can cry because no one remeber what it was  |
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 12:50
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Yeah old goa is really crap quality, that sucks!
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EYB
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 12:51
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But some noise can be psychedelic
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HandA
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 12:55
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yet another perfect example of a person that got no clue whatsoever ;-) |
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Trip-
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 12:56
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by the way, I can say the same about many techno influenced tracks and so called progressive ones. But I guess their purpose is obvious - drone and dig - groove and ass shaking.
the purpose of full on is not diving into a musical world - it's listen to the kick and stupidly smile to the ppl around you.
what im trying to say is:
Goa was first music - then dancefloor packed.
Full on is just clueless dancing. And there are too many full on lovers today who you can ask this. If it's not agressive kick and bassline - then it's not good anymore.
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 13:08
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Again, I think comparing stuff like old TIP tunes to Astrix is like comparing Black Sabbath and Europe.
Sure Europe had better sound quality than early Black Sabbath.
Sure loads of people liked Europe and they wrote catchy melodies.
Sure europe was an "evolution" from bands like Black Sabbath, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin.
Sure the Europe fans can enjoy Europe if they like.
I can still appreciate Black Sabbath myself, even without being a rock fan. Europe I can only laugh about really, and so does most people today.
And I'm not saying that all music is crap today, but GMS and Astrix has in my eyes not made a great contribution to the scene. Just as very few metal fans would say that europe did a great contribution to their scene.
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HandA
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 13:28
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Could not agree more spindrift |
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ganjagil
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Posted : Oct 18, 2004 13:28
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Definately agree about GMS and astrix, alien project tralalalalala all the so called full on is not what i call full on! it's all commercial music which i actually think that they polluted the scene bigtime! but anyway old goa is cool still sometimes i put in cd of old goa and get the same feeling! Today there IS good full on but you have to really search for it!
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