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Mike A
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 15:09
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| I just hear big bass, and kicks, a part where it slows down, and then a cheesy melody etc. |
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Is that what you really hear, or what you want to hear? 
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| man i never saw a non anti full on post commin up |
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I had to. Too much anti-fullon nowadays 
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| like it or not psytrance is no longer an underground scene...its very mainstream, ....best example- look at the number of festivals each year they keep on increasing, and the number of people that attend them keeps on growing. |
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What's wrong with that? Is psytrance a priviledge only the selected few (you and me) can listen to? Why can't it become widespread? Of course when it becomes widespread money and commercialism comes in which then makes it damage, but there will always be the underground scene even inside the mainstream.
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| Full on might have developed out of the old goa trance, but that doesn´t mean it carries any of it´s magic or spirit. That got lost on the way. |
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That's where you are wrong. The magic and spirit wasn't something in the music itself. It was the process of discovering something new and different than whatever you were used to. The fact that you have explored it now doesn't mean this magic doesn't exist for the younger generation. For them Skazi and friends are magical (even though I consider Skazi one of the biggest recyclists).
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| Full on has imo nothing to do with psychedelic music. |
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Is what you call psychedelic music, really psychedelic?
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| but there is one thing i dont like, when superstar artists make a track in 2 days only for easy money, while they know its shit compared to what they can do but they dont have to work hard cause they are alredy famous and lots of people will like it cause it has a catchy vocal in it. |
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That's true as well. And we both know a name of one of them 
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And i can't hear the the shit about soul, overproduced, wrong and right drugs and spirit of the real 'goa' anymore. Thats is all shit!!! |
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So true
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Lux
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 15:25
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Whatever EYB...
whatever dude....
 Don't hope 2 much 4 something cause u may end up getting it... |
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Pointy
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 15:36
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On 2004-10-16 14:54, EYB wrote:
Pointy whats up with u, why do u care what people use what kind of drugs and what is the relation if 'U' like full on?
The magic? Don't start with fees and dragons and this stuff
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May I ask "what´s up with u", if you don´t care what kind of drugs people use?
I care about people and life in general and if people are using drugs, which imo are not good or healthy for you, then that bothers me in the same way as it bothers me that people are eating microwave and fast food.
And with the drugs, I especially care about it, because it has imo a strong effect on the vibe of a party and I think that doesn´t belong into the world of dragons and fairies, but is "reality".
That aslo explains how I think drugs relate to what music you like. As I wrote earlier, mdma makes you enjoy "everything", you loose judgement. And because coke closes your heart chakra, you don´t care if the music is made from the heart/soul, or by reason.
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MikeA wrote:
The magic and spirit wasn't something in the music itself. It was the process of discovering something new and different than whatever you were used to. The fact that you have explored it now doesn't mean this magic doesn't exist for the younger generation.
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I agree, that over the years you get used to the sounds and you don´t get the same fascination so easily anymore.
Still I think that there is magic and spirit in music itself too. It goes together with heart and soul.
I can still hear it, but not in GMS and Co.
peace
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 17:32
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On 2004-10-16 14:54, EYB wrote:
Peace full on lovers
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Im a prog lover, but accept everybody's own tastes.. no peace for me? =)
(how stupid of me of posting in the 'full on rocks' thread, but whatever, Im a walking contradiction) |
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 17:43
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On 2004-10-16 15:36, Pointy wrote:
May I ask "what´s up with u", if you don´t care what kind of drugs people use?
I care about people and life in general and if people are using drugs, which imo are not good or healthy for you, then that bothers me in the same way as it bothers me that people are eating microwave and fast food.
And with the drugs, I especially care about it, because it has imo a strong effect on the vibe of a party and I think that doesn´t belong into the world of dragons and fairies, but is "reality".
That aslo explains how I think drugs relate to what music you like. As I wrote earlier, mdma makes you enjoy "everything", you loose judgement. And because coke closes your heart chakra, you don´t care if the music is made from the heart/soul, or by reason.
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Look man.. Im sorry I dont know about the earlier discussion that you're talking here, but:
Drugs are not necessarily unhealthy, the same as non-drug users are not necessarily healthy.. I for example only take psychedelics occasionally, and not only they have shown me many things spiritually, but also have helped me act in a much healthier way in concrete terms (like I do yoga daily now, I eat healthily, etc etc)..
Drugs is a human phenomenon, and you should not dismiss it and call it 'bad' straight away.. Also, remember cafeine is also a drug, tylenol or other medicines are also drugs, etc etc..
Each drug is different than the next, and each has advantages and disadvantages (just as everything else)
I, for one, think that indeed mdma/coke is not very good for MY UNDERSTANDING of the party's vibe.. But I like the psychedelic vibe.. see how subjective this is?
also, what's this about microwave? Have you any reliable scientific studies to show it is unhealthy? I guess not...
Do you watch tv? It's not very healthy, you know?
What I want to show you with all this, man, is that first of all, each one chooses for himself, and you should respect their own choices.. Second, drugs are not all the same..Dont generalize Third, everything has advantages and disadvantages. Fourth, dont mistake personal opinions for objective facts.
(insert whatever cheesy punch line here)
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Pointy
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 18:08
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No worries mate, I loooove psychedelics too, the ones mother nature provides
With drugs that are not "good or healthy" for you I meant mdma and coke, I thought I made that clear, but maybe not!?
...and btw I don´t watch TV, haven´t got one! "*´¨)
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 18:28
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On 2004-10-16 18:08, Pointy wrote:
No worries mate, I loooove psychedelics too, the ones mother nature provides
With drugs that are not "good or healthy" for you I meant mdma and coke, I thought I made that clear, but maybe not!?
...and btw I don´t watch TV, haven´t got one!
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hehehe sorry, I guess I didnt read that part or something =)
Im glad you dont watch tv.. I mean, there are some good stuff occasionally, but it's like less than 1%.. The rest of the time, it's just browsing through shitty stuff that catches your attention, or commercials.. When there is a tv on, it's hard not to look at it.. It really sucks your mind.. Thats why I took the tv out of my room =)
and yeah, re-reading my post it sounded kinda harsh.. I didnt mean it that way.. peace =) |
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Pointy
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 18:46
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yep, peace to you too.
..concerning the microvave food: I don´t know about scientific proof, that it is unhealthy, but I think that is also because it is not around for for long enough that we have long term studies on what it does to the human body.
But from what I know there is scientific proof, that the microwaves change the molocular structure of the food and that is dodgy enough, for me to believe, that it is not good for you. Well, I don´t eat it.
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 19:15
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sure man, if you dont feel well with something, indeed you should not eat/do it... because even if it's not unhealthy in the end, just your doubts about it may already cause your organism to not react so well to it |
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 19:18
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and yeah, just like with genetically modified food, microwave is new so there arent many studies about long term effect... I also wonder if all this flood of electromagnetic devices like cellphones, etc etc, doesnt have any effect on us too... |
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Shaqattack
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 20:16
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FULL ON DOES ROCK!!!!!!!!
thats the best kinda music that can totally get people moving...!!!
~ B O O M ~ |
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 20:31
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On 2004-10-16 20:16, Shaqattack wrote:
thats the best kinda music that can totally get people moving...!!!
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not to get picky, but if you added 'In my opinion', your post would be so much more acceptable =) |
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freakazoid
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 20:32
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i like goa music, but to tell the truth, today, i can't dance to anything with such low bpm and almost no bass. i like the loops and everything and the general psychedelia, but i'd rather find it in a full-on track, sure they're hard to find, but you can still find full-on tracks that will move your soul and body. for me, progressive was never about moving the body (and not much of the soul usually).
all i know is that full-on is the only music more or less that i might be sitting in my room, hear some tracks, and just like that find myself dancing by myself  i feel it is music for letting go of everything, the hard bass and psychedelic sounds just take over my body. the way no other music can. and that's without taking any drugs or whatever (well, maybe a bit of  from time to time )
about the millions of artists coming out these days, yeah it sucks. but it's not like proggy and the rest don't have thousands too. it's all a matter of sifting through the crap to find the gems. or better yet, find a good party with a good dj who did that for you, and just fly 
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sherlockalien
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 20:54
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On 2004-10-16 20:32, freakazoid wrote:
for me, progressive was never about moving the body (and not much of the soul usually).
all i know is that full-on is the only music more or less that i might be sitting in my room, hear some tracks, and just like that find myself dancing by myself i feel it is music for letting go of everything, the hard bass and psychedelic sounds just take over my body. the way no other music can. and that's without taking any drugs or whatever
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funny how this differs from people to people.. I for one find progressive to work perfectly for me and make my soul fly, and my body move and trip a lot (with or without smoke or psychedelics)... Like you said, sometimes even finding myself dancing alone and grooving and flowing with the music
and indeed, there are crap music in all genres... just find what you like, support it , and dont support what you dont like =) |
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Sigbjoern Revheim
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Posted : Oct 16, 2004 21:59
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First of all I must say I like full on, just as I like progressive trance and finnish kind of trance and many other forms of electronic music (and even some rock and pop).
I think the problem many have with full on music comes from the following factors:
1. Lack of unique sound, that little secret ingredient that makes the artist special and recognizable. Some full on artist have it, but many lack it.
2. To little variation through the track, you feel you are standing still and you are not on a travel through the track.
3. To little variation between the tracks, you get bored of hearing the almost same track over and over again.
4. Lack of the X-factor, the special ingredient in the track that pulls you into the track. Instead you often just meet a massive impenetrable wall of sound.
The above factors are NOT specific for full on music, they apply to all kinds of music. You find good and bad music in any genre.
But with the large amount of full on releases it is logical that there will be more bad full on releases than other types of releases. More disturbing though is the lower frequency of gems in full on (personal opinion) compared to other types of trance and what Goa brought us, but I still find gems in full on. By gem I mean a track you can pick up 5 years later and still get a big grin on your face after hearing 5 seconds of it because that is enough to remember the hole track and bring back the good feelings. With many full on tracks it is more like "who is playing, have I really heard this track before?".
I guess if it was harder to get released, i.e. more competition, then the artists would have to be more creative and work a little harder to find the X-factor that makes a gem. Another positive thing about this would be that the real talented artists would exploit their talent much better instead of resting on their previous victories.
And Mike, saying that compared to todays music Goa is bland I find just silly and one dimensional. I start to wonder how much Goa you have really heard. Hower, I don't see any point in comparing the two styles, they are too different for that. So lets that discussion R.I.P.
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