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Blame all the shit and frustration on the labels.
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IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 16:56
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I say blame the labels for all that is terrible in this scene. ..
What do you think Detox (your name just popped up)? Think there is a point behind my one-liner?
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 17:05
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This thread could have been very interesting and good if I would just take the time to write a page or two on the subject. but I like it short. Labels are a BIG reason for the "destruction" of "our" scene.  You Green labelled people are small spawns of Satan. You don't know it. But you might be an Omen. ..
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 17:10
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I would like a job at a label. Anyone interested in hiring me? PM me for a résumé. |
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 17:50
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Got nothing better to do huh? It's not the labels that are responsible for the bad stuff in the scene, it's the people. People that buy shit like Dali, Skazi etc. etc. They bring on the nasty stuff, cuz the labels notice it keeps on selling. Easy as pie.
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 17:54
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hehe, jip. Very. I'm just waiting to leave the office so that I can enjoy a festival with Juno Reactor (!!)
People buy Dali, Skazi ect ect. because the labels chooses to release it. Yes, because "the" people buy it.
But that doesn’t excuse the fact that it is the labels (who pump out spam after spam) we should blame, not the people.
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 17:57
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On 2006-07-12 17:54, psytones wrote:
hehe, jupp. Very. I'm just waiting to leave the office so that I can enjoy a festival with Juno Reactor (!!)
People buy Dali, Skazi ect ect. because the labels chooses to release it. Yes, because "the" people buys it.
But that doesnt excuse the fact that it is the labels we should blame, not the people.
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Nope... the labels release it to check if there's a market for it. Believe me, if nobody bought any of the cd's I mentioned, the artists' fame would be over in a flash.
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 18:01
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So.. ? So like Detox says. It's all about the money. Money first, music second. Is that it? Of course there are people buying whatever you choose to crap out. That’s because 80% of the population enjoys crap. Blame the labels. I don't know which year the big "psy-label" boom came, but when that happened. (?) That’s when all hell broke loose. [stop quoting me, it takes so much space] |
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Pavel
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 18:12
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So ok, you now have a label too. What will you release? Stuff like Psykovsky, Derango and stuff like that too right?
Ok, now how will that be different from the 168 other labels that release this shit?
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 18:17
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There are 4-5 labels releasing music by one artist. (also your examples Pavel). Do we need that many to represent one artist? And speaking of Derengo and Psykovsky. At least Derengo's label releases unique, innovating, crazy and psychedelic (forest) trance. Not too many for him too compete against, so ... ? Psykovsky? He’s like Ott, trying to keep it “hidden” secret/sacret and “real”. He's an angel. Say a bad word about him, and I'll ... rearrange your name. No, I still say "Blame it on the labels".
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Pavel
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 18:24
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Currently there are atleast 4 pages on the promotional section filled with new labels that release that unique, innovating, crazy and psychedelic music. Nothing against any of the artists that i mentioned but it seems that there are around 100 artists that try to do the same shit.
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 18:47
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You are VERY right. And it's very .. paradoxical? We had this 2-3 year long boom with only dry kiddie full-on being released by the thousands pr. week. Now that the "crowd" is tired of their favourite music style. They finally realise that "wow". This music is kewl. And another boom starts. This time the boom was Dark Full-On (Full-on with rolling baselines, inspired by original night acts)). I see now that "forest"/or call it crazy leads and pads are back in the spotlight. And your absolutely right. Now that Derengo, Psykovsky and the followers are getting bigger and more popular (even among the "kids") .. The label hell starts again. Pumping out as much as possible. Destroying all that is unique and magical about this genre. Until the grasshoppers (labels) move on to a better bait/the new hype. So yes. I still say #¤% labels and their following the hype, the cash. Still my point is that it is the labels that should be blamed. .. Argh.. I just ruined my own thought. Labels are innocent. Money (and time) is THE biggest enemy. But wait, humans created both time, and money. So Acidhive is right in the deepest end. People.. beh!" Don’t you just despite them? ..
No labels!!!!!! (I have to stand by my first post)
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 20:23
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On 2006-07-12 18:17, psytones wrote:
Psykovsky? He’s like Ott
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 21:13
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The intellectual content of this thread is appalling.
It seems the #1 discussion these days is "why is the industry broken"? Without a synthesis of the available facts, you're not going to get any closer to the answer, but it will raise your post count.
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fregle
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 21:20
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if an artist has succes u can't stop the copycats... Everybody wants more, and a lot of people say 'hey i like this music a lot, but wouldn't it be better if i use this technique instead of the one the original artist uses?' so they start making the same music with they're own accents...
In most musical genres labels just don't release the copycats.. they say 'hey, we already have U2 that does that sound so why would we take u in too? We don't need 2 U2's...' and that's what's going wrong with the labels in a lot of electronic music genres, in electronic music every label seems to want more of the same... Also they release too much from the same artist (instead of filtering out the 'lesser' ones), or they pressurise them to release a full album too quickly and it sucks because it is in fact one track and 9 rearrangements of that track. That's all because labels sell so little albums in psytrance (and most other electronic genres) that they try to gain money by releasing as much as possible (for artists this is actually an advantage, because they get a fixed price for every song, so the more they sell the better).
This is all good for dj's, because we have a lot more releases to chose from, but for the average listener it is indeed much too overwhelming and they don't find they're way to the good releases anymore... or they don't buy the releases because they release 10 good songs divided over 5 releases that are filled with crappy songs for the rest, instead of releasing 2 cd's with top notch music. |
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Posted : Jul 12, 2006 21:28
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i would like to take the time to disagree with this statement. take any artist on any label in any genre, and there is another act out there with a similar, or "copycat" if you prefer, sound. american pop music is a perfect example, and a wasteland of shit. here there are big labels trying to make a buck at whatever the cost, and mass-marketing a cookie-cutter product to feed the sheep... all the while, there are smaller labels, indies, who release music and artists that they are passionate about.
i think that the majority of psy labels are more comparable to the "indie" concept, and love what they release. it's music that they are passionate about. of course, there are exceptions to every rule, so this doesn't stand as a blanket comment. there are always rotten apples, but you shouldn't let them spoil the whole bunch...
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