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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 18:30
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On 2006-06-15 16:29, psytones wrote:
hehehe, you remembered my whole name.  Umm, well. It's a question that has always been with me since my first bad track experience. For me it seems very strange that a person with no psychedelic understanding can claim to make a killargh psychedelic track "just" because he turns some nobs and puts in some echo (These days a lot of people doesn’t even do that, they just produce "normal" but more modern, lets call it Isra-Euro-Trance music and sticks a Psytrance sticker on it, because psytrance is "cool", if you get my drift) Psykovsky, oh yes. He knows, he knows perfectly well how to make true psychedelic, and trippy music with walls, roof and floor. Too many "psytrance" producers just makes the wall, and forget, or don’t know how to make the rest of the building. I strongly feel that one has to have some kind of understanding of how a psychedelic substance effects you. Because, as trippers know. The music change when your on a trip.
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this is it!!!
psychedelic experience is more like a spiritual initution into the deeper realm states of the music with the mind and space around...
after a psychedelic experience, hidden secret areas of the mind are been activated,the subconsious memory of the mind,have brought up in the concsious mind things that we already knew from the past, and find their path way back channeling through psychedelics, in front of the conciousnes present time.
The point of view about things around time and space is more opened and expended to higher 3dimensional states.It is up to the user if is gonna handle such a powerfull subtance and find the right connection of the mind state with the sounds more perfect.
The difficult thing with psychedelic substances is to keep a harmonious ballance from sober to stoned and from stoned to sober again without fall down rude after the experience,because you pass through such as mystical channels of the mind unlocking such as secret gates as you are stoned,that you have to remeber the way back path again as youare sobber and keeping the gate key to unlock them ,otherwise you burn the way and dont remebr how to do excactly the same again without substances...
So for me a psychedelic trance artist for making extra killarg chaotic psychedelicious trippy trance music ,needs at least one good psychedelic experience....otherwise for what psychedelic we talk about?
to make good proggressive or house music sober, is ok I think,no psychedelic substances needed here...
  ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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Pt.
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 19:09
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Bravo =) .. It's nice to feel what you write. |
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Pavel
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 20:19
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On 2006-06-15 16:34, psytones wrote:
::See I think drugs have done some good things for us. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then do me a favour. Go home tonight and take all of your records, tapes and all your CD's and burn them. Because, you know all those musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs, man. - BILL HICKS :respect:
Can one make psychedelic music without a psychedelic substance experience?
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Hey i quoted that 3 pages ago
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Pt.
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 20:39
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And it should be quoted again and again and again! |
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 21:27
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Cardinals Cartel
Black Machine
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 21:36
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Do we open a pharmacy in here or this is a trance site ?
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Aluxe
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 22:12
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And how do you know that the natural high is not the most psychedelic state of all? You might respond, well because I have tried dmt, like who are we kidding. Ok, but imagine that we were all born in the DMT dimension, as if that were our natural state of mind. It probably would not be considered psychedelic then, it would actually be normal everyday scenery. Now to get high in that world you might take some drug that takes you to what here we consider sober, or our natural state of mind. Would it be as amazing? Coming from a dmt reality the sober state might seem like the most extraordinary world, the clarity, the perfect balance of all things. The greatest high ever. Of course, maybe not. Maybe you would say, boy this high sucks.. I need something waaay stronger. hehe
My point is that this sober reality which we live is maybe, just maybe in fact actually mind fucking blowing to infinite proportions!!! And we just don't see it because we are so comfortable and adapted to it, sort of like the last thing a fish will notice is probably the water in which he is swimming in.
And of course taking the fish out of the water for a moment might help the fish realize that he is actually swimming in water. So come on take at least one hit, at least once. Hehe (kidding)
But actually from another angle, maybe all the pieces of the universe are already psychedelic, and all we humans really do is assemble them like kids playing with that toy LEGO. So you don't have to be high, it makes no difference, you are not really the true artist behind the psychedelic track anyways, because all you did really, was make a necklace out of the beautiful seashells that in fact nature created. We can get carried away pretending we are sooo psychedelic, but really we are just kids playing in a sandbox like everyone else.
And have you ever listened to classical music on Mushrooms? Everything when you are high can be a psychedelic experience, so maybe that is enough to conclude that no, you do NOT need drugs to create something truly psychedelic. I mean since everything with a psychedelic mind turns psychedelic anyways, if you know what I mean. If drugs increase the intensity is another thing, it does not mean sober does not have access to the psychedelic channels. Maybe sober you have access to all the channels, you just have to snap out from the spell which culture puts on you and change the fucking channel to something cool and psychedelic.
But hold your horses, because maybe humanity will actually realize one day that afterall we do NEED a hit of DMT to access these new undiscovered dimensions and that is exactly where we want to go. Hey, not much different than getting in a spaceship to fly through space to find new planets. Well If that is the case, all the uptight antidrug square headed nerds are fucked. Hehe. Anyhow, I don't think its the case, but never leave a dragon out of your calculations. Be prepared to adapt.
I don't think its black in white though, everyone has to be themselves. Find their own ways. And stop fighting things which are real, for good or bad, lets not close our eyes, one way or another. We can learn from everything.
You know some of my nicest psychedelic memories and mostly beautiful feelings are of all I imagined tripping would be like before I actually started tripping. So maybe imagination is all we need.
Cheers Yall !!!!!!!
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malavasi
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 22:33
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I think drugs have done some *good* things for us, I really do. And if you don’t believe drugs have done good things for us, you should take all your albums, all your mp3, and all your cds and burn them. Because you konw what? The musicians who ve made all that great music thats enhanced our lives throughout the years,
real fucking high on drugs.
lol
I heard someone saying that some time ago, but Ive never forgot it. And I counldnt agree more.
Off course some musicians dont take drugs, or some of them stoped along the way and still makes good music, but that setence couldnt be more true. |
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WALSTIB
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 22:36
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well it's a matter of defenition and words and all.. oh ye a forum. ello brothers and sisters  ('m new here gimme a moment, jus discovert this plane)
well me too i'm from the opinion a psychedelic thing is induced direct or indirectly by entheogenic swirls tsjoepa byebye see ye on the funny side |
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Pavel
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 22:46
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On 2006-06-15 22:33, malavasi wrote:
I think drugs have done some *good* things for us, I really do. And if you don’t believe drugs have done good things for us, you should take all your albums, all your mp3, and all your cds and burn them. Because you konw what? The musicians who ve made all that great music thats enhanced our lives throughout the years,
real fucking high on drugs.
lol
I heard someone saying that some time ago, but Ive never forgot it. And I counldnt agree more.
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The guy that said it died before the mp3 was developed.
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Drunken Monk
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Posted : Jun 15, 2006 23:38
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drugs are good drugs are bad... artists must do only muzik, artists MUST take drugs.. and so on! Everything has been writen! If someone feels like it then he ll do it,whatever music he writes. As kakoolalajwal said, getting stoned is as old as humanity..
Someone said that either you have it or not (the psychedelicality). I agree with that (there re people that have it but havent discover it yet though). But they dont take, acid for example, only those who havent it (the psychedelicality).
Stop whining about why psy artists take drugs and such... This is the god damn reason that outside people (or even not) connects this music with drugs. Drugs are connected with any kind of music just because they 're connected with human (and some alien tribes).
Cheers, 
+-+talking with ali3ns around the universe+-+
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Cardinals Cartel
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Posted : Jun 16, 2006 00:13
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Well ..
I can say 2 things about that . Drugs is great for all
artist and not .. We are all human beings , For 1 its
good for painting for 1 when he go and fishing for
1 after lunch in his work and for 1 ... after fighting
with his wife , For one (Me ..) when he walk in the
fields with his dogs , And for 1 in a party time when
the all glory of the open nature is befront of him and
1 just like it with his tea , 1 is cant sleep without and
1 its wake him up , 1 ...
Pls .. Half of the world are using drugs so why you
need to glue it for the artists ? Sure its not a secret
and we all know what all about but i think that this
topic is a redundant and superfluous and fit for an
kids that cant find what to do but talking on this
hash or this green bush or chimicals , Listen .. We
dont have time for (Its a way of life - Day by day)
I dont ask with .. drugs is great but dont make a
big story of . Come down .. All of us using this or
that (And even alcohol its a kind drug) . Pls , Lets
talk music here ... this subject are bidder and
jumping here every week with anothere headline
by the new weekly clever in here . Thx !
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vector_0
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Posted : Jun 16, 2006 02:14
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On 2006-06-15 16:34, psytones wrote:
::See I think drugs have done some good things for us. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then do me a favour. Go home tonight and take all of your records, tapes and all your CD's and burn them. Because, you know all those musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs, man. - BILL HICKS :respect:
Can one make psychedelic music without a psychedelic substance experience?
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and have you ever heard music from some artists that don't use drugs? boy do they suck! |
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Jeto
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Posted : Jun 16, 2006 02:26
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"you can turn your back on a friend, but neer turn your back on a drug" 
just kidding...
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Pavel
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Posted : Jun 16, 2006 03:21
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On 2006-06-16 02:14, vector_0 wrote:
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On 2006-06-15 16:34, psytones wrote:
::See I think drugs have done some good things for us. If you don't think drugs have done good things for us then do me a favour. Go home tonight and take all of your records, tapes and all your CD's and burn them. Because, you know all those musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high on drugs, man. - BILL HICKS :respect:
Can one make psychedelic music without a psychedelic substance experience?
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and have you ever heard music from some artists that don't use drugs? boy do they suck!
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Not all drugs are good. Some ... are great.
Everyone in the world is doing something without me |
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