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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 16:37
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"p.s. an advice to full on brothers:''take the most minimal album you can find,midi miliz,delta,x-dream,opsis or something like that and try be patient and hear all from the beginning to the end.i know it will brake yr nerves but here's the tip...hear again and again...in 3rd time u listen u will discover whats in the back side and stop breaking yr nerves from continious minimality...that is because its more difficult for the brain to get into this new sound...then u start find the meaning of this genius music,the deep... "
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1000% correct..
  http://www.o-zen.com/art/ranal
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You wanna dance?!...I know a tune...it´s called stick and CUT!!
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traveller
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 18:00
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just look at this party that will take place here @ november..
E10V - Ten years of Entropy
A Decade of Creative Madness
1.11.2003
VR Makasiinit
Join us on 1.11. to celebrate a decade of groundbreaking techno culture!
www.e10v.com
MARUSHA (Jackfruit, GER)
The world's most famous and influential female techno artist who has travelled the globe and pleased millions of fans with her individual sound. House, techno, breakbeat, electro and even hip hop influences have been heard in her successful productions and unforgettable DJ sets. This is the first Marusha appearance in Helsinki since the Planet of Love back in 1996!
www.marusha.de
AALTO (Anjunabeats, UK/FIN)
Paavo Siljamäki of Above & Beyond and Miika Eloranta aka Super8 form Aalto - the hottest trance duo today. The ‘Rush’ single release on Paul van Dyk’s Vandit label has been another worldwide success for these guys who currently tour UK, Germany, Canada and Japan.
www.anjunabeats.com
HUX FLUX (Spiral Trax, SWE)
Hux Flux amazed the psy trance scene in 1999 with Cryptic Crunch - the breakthrough album. The twisted and groovy tunes that have been heard at all the major gatherings all around the world will now be experienced live in Finland for the very first time!
www.spiraltrax.com
35 carefully selected DJs & artists performing on 7 stages:
Battery Main Arena
MARUSHA (GER) - 3½ hour set!
ELIOT NESS - the art of mixing with 3 decks
DCOM
Club Elements Arena
AALTO (UK/FIN) live & DJ
ORKIDEA
STATIC & AZO
Mush Room
HUX FLUX (SWE) live
SIENIS (SWE)
HOOKAH
LEMON SLIDE live
Entropy tapaa Inkvisition
TUSKARUHO kohtaa GENKIn
FOLIO live
GNOSIS
WILAI
BOSAFAT
CRISS
MIKCO
Chill-Out
EEROPEKKA RISLAKKI
APO
INDIGO
JOHA
Leisure Suit Lounge
PHINN
ERKKO
KUURO K. PAISTI
ANTTI H
HC/WC
DAMON ”DJAX” NEWMAN
T-PUSERO
MEDDA
ESSI LENTO
RAVEL
RITA HUH & AURA DING
V-TECH
Visuals by Amfibio & Lumiere bros.
Lights by Harharyhmä, Tea & Severi
Decorations by Entropy, KelmiOlio & Dust Decorations
Sound by Precision Audio
Flyer art and photo gallery 1993-2003
General info
Venue: VR Makasiinit (7 stages)
Address: Mannerheimintie 13, Helsinki
Date: Saturday 1.11.2003
Doors open: 21-04 birthday cake and a special cd for the first arrivals
Age limit: 18
Event website: www.e10v.com
Advance Tickets 10€ & Booking Fee 0-1,2€
Helsinki: Street Beat, Octarine, Lifesaver, Mosso, Tiketti
Tampere: Epe's
Turku: Musiikki Helin, Musiikkinurkka (Mylly)
Stockholm: Svaj
Bus Trips 25-35€ incl. Event Ticket
Tampere / Hämeenlinna: 045 672 7808, miika@e10v.com
Turku / Salo: 040 739 0592, defa@e10v.com
Jyväskylä / Lahti: 040 583 2617, pasi@e10v.com
Lappeenranta / Kotka: 050 599 1360, antti@e10v.com
IMHO
this is pretty fucking cool.. so many styles within one party.. even though i'll probably find my self campin' in the mush room.. well i'll still have a lot to choose from.. maybe some techno heads will be converted to trancers in this party =)
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 18:52
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heh, we allready talked here about this party:) hux flux and marusha at same venue, keep going this direction:))))))
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Sep 23, 2003 21:11
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For sure !!  Marusha will blow away everything around !!
.. and what do say about Hux Flux !! 
This reminds me large events that used to happen in Switzerland with several floOrs including the Goa one (where there were always the last survivors in it hehe)... Tolerance was something quite natural..
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 00:43
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1. ALX - why dont proggy lovers try to do the same (take a full on album, listen to it again and again, 'force' yourself to remember how it felt like in the begining, the joy of uplifting moning tunes carrying the soul up to heaven...might be educational...)
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as i wrote in my message tech-progressive lovers,were borned also from the same music,psychedelic trance when the whole scene was more like one thing...so everyone of us either was listening to full on music,i think also that most of us even today have not problem to listen to full on albums,and we dance ofcourse with full on tunes in parties because in parties or festivalsfull on takes the 75% of time and we are satisfied if there is a 25% of tech -prog music.full on lovers are the ones who get really sick when listen to something else.thats why try my tip.2 years ago i also got sick with techno minimal prog sounds,feeling it was too small from me,and i can say i pressured myself in the begginning,so now i am the biggest fun of tech-minimal-prog style...its an advice for you top walk a step in front,i ve found my way...i m sure u follow...its just a matter of time...kisses dear full on helen |
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nobody4
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 10:11
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lol...U really wanna teach me about listening to progressive? Just dig out my releases and tell me if its full on or proggy...
off with the personal issue - why should anybody FORCE themselves into listening to music that doesn't fit them? is it a macho test? common man, this is music, not tryathlon... do u feel you have to prove yourself to somebody (you said yourself that you "pressured yourself in the beginning")?
With all my extensive progressive background, I must say that I find a lot more music in melodic full-on stuff these days. Its more music, less technique (IMO). And the bottom line as a DJ - the crowd likes it. we are entertainers, givers of good time after all; we dont come to force ourselves on ppl who came and paid their money for a good time.
This is not to say that everybody should play the same, mind you! IMO the desire to entertain should be the leading issue, coupled by the idea of personal good taste (for a DJ) and musical view.
True though is the fact that the level of tolerance for progressive is low in the Full on crowd, I remember this quite well - except for the Dinamo Dvash you couldn't play a proper 3 hours prog' set anywhere, ppl would come to you at 1:30-2:00 asking for IM/GMS stuff - really annoying, and ultimately boring.
bottom line: enjoy the music.
if you feel that the parties do not fit your musical style, dont go there, or produce your own parties where YOU can choose the lineup. know the scene, the promoters, the artists - so you can predict what the party will be like (just the same buying a full on album without listening to it before and then complaining about it being full on...and vice versa).
Big Boom Shankar,
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kriz
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 10:24
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 10:37
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On 2003-09-24 10:11, helen wrote:
except for the Dinamo Dvash you couldn't play a proper 3 hours prog' set anywhere, |
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and even there its finished quite long time go, not to say dinamo closed. funny thing tht 2 years ago there was more progressive in israel than now.
today u can ply proper prog set at lab party in coma 2, but its for 20 ppl may be, thats what is prog here now.
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Candy
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 10:45
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Because 2 years ago progressive music was also psychedelic. Today it is not.
Majority is never right!
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Christian
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 10:57
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On 2003-09-24 10:45, RaverGirl wrote:
Because 2 years ago progressive music was also psychedelic. Today it is not.
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and today it still psychedelic!
Come on people what are you talking about. I find here the most untolerant peoples. Can you stop talking about nuts!!!
You creat a conflict just insinde your minds. Outside there is no problem with Full on dudel dudel and Progressive umda umda. It dosen`t matter, where I go the people are always happy to listen some different sounds.
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Candy
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 11:05
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Really Christian, we are untolerant?
Who suggested to split the scene to 2? A very tolerant person I guess ha?
And if you call today's music psychedelic, then man, we've got 2 totally different point of views on what psychedelic sounds are about.
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Christian
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 11:32
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I never wrote who is a untolerant person. I just wrote that all the discussion about who is better full on people or progressive people is just boring.
but actually I only can read that full on people diss the progressive people. It`s it right? In nearly every thread is written that the progressive people are not open enough and that they have forgot their roots.
I think the people which listen to different kinds of dancemusic are more open as all the people that just get a horny when they listen to to full on.
btw ravergirl: I can find more interesting psychedelic elements in the modern progressive music as in every kind else. But I think progressive for you is something different as it is for me.
check out new acts like "INFUSION" from australia or "Matthew Dekay" or "Attica". They are making the new music which is between psytrance and progressive trance but they also us a big portion of deep techno feeling. New basslines, new programmings, new sounds and pure soul and sex.
so peace out and as I said it already we don`t need to split our scene, no better we have to reunite the scene.
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 12:00
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Well.. I have written about 'roOts' in my first post.. so I just feel like reacting..
My opinion is that both 'sides' (it sounds so strange for me to express myself that way..) have lost their roOts at the first second they began to tease each other..
It's simply not a Trancey attitude... but a Hype Poppy one if u ask me..
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 13:23
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p.s. - Matthew Dekay - If I Could Fly (Deep Rec) - this one will not go out of my case that easy:))))
or listen to his Beat Rising tune, this is weird mind games sound.
anymore info about Attica ??
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Light
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 13:58
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On 2003-09-24 11:05, RaverGirl wrote:
And if you call today's music psychedelic, then man, we've got 2 totally different point of views on what psychedelic sounds are about.
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I think there are more then 2 totally different points of view what psychedelic sounds are about.
There were just some posts about how psychedelic the queen of Disco Donna Summer was...
About spliting the scene; I think it's more of a transition of people moving over to other styles this days.. how many posts alone we had about Breakbeat lately. It seems that many people are looking for new styles.
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