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salvia_divinorum
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 17:40
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i agree with gkalpakas...
and more...
i think it's totally annoying how the progressive lovers like to go "oh full-on lovers can't listen to prog and prog lovers can listen to full-on so full-on people are the ignorant ones". i went to a prog party last weekend and for the reviews you could tell how the prog people totally think they are elite.
COME ON! no one is better than anyone, it's a matter of taste, if someone doesn't like prog let it be, no need to "educate" them into listen to prog (obviously this goes for both sides). if they don't like it, they don't like it, period. if you like it, cool, listen to it and don't try to put your likes in the others. all this discussion of what is better, prog or full-on, psy or not psy, it's just completely bullshit bc everyone has different tastes, there is public for every kind of music, and this discussion won't lead us nowhere. stop treating other people like they are ignorants just bc they don't like the kind of music that does it for you, stop thinking your music is better just bc fewer people or more people like it or just bc you like it. sheesh.
i believe the topic was about having 2 different kinds of parties, full-on parties and prog parties, which i already said think it's totally wrong bc there should be union and not division bc after all this is all trance music... this wasn't about which music style was better or which public was better. stop the ego fights, please.
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traveller
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 17:46
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On 2003-09-24 17:40, salvia_divinorum wrote:
no one is better than anyone
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sad to say this but that's not true..
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salvia_divinorum
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 17:51
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yup maybe... i was talking in a "musical tastes" kind of way... not in the personality way...
When I dance, I put myself in the DJ's hands to take me to a journey - the unconscious journey to reality
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planet_zohar
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 18:01
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traveller: sad but true indeed 
let's take a walk on the proogy side |
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traveller
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 18:01
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ok
then that's true i guess..
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planet_zohar
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Posted : Sep 24, 2003 18:02
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i just didnt understand whats your point in this stupid fight...
let's take a walk on the proogy side |
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nobody_3
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 01:35
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I honestly think (and I am sure I will be bashed because of this) that they days of union in this scene is long gone.... Why do people that want to listen to progressive and more housy stuff have to go to parties where the music is Full On? And why should people that want Full On have to listen to Progressive? It does not make sense to me at all. Let people decide what they want.... Don't force it upon them..... How can people ever be able to choose as long as progressive is a "pause clown" in the Full On Circus? And I am sure most full on party people would prefer to leave the progressive warm - up element out of their parties.
I know a few countries have seperated parties (festivals are different and it work very well with many different genres there) but in most countries (Israel among many others) the progressive scene is very absent and many times laughed at. I am still of the strong belief that seperated parties or at least 2 room parties will benefit both genres more than it will cause damage. If you did a survey in this forum (why dont you ever do that by the way?) then I am quite sure that 90% of all Full On people would prefer not to listen to progressive at the parties and I am sure the same goes for the progressive listeners... And last.. I am sure people will find out about other genres of music eventhough the 2 genres are seperated... The world work like that!
Of course there have to be a lot of room for experimentation and openmindness but at the end of the day it's the people that go to the parties that pay the tickets. And if people expect to go to dance to Full On then why give them progressive? Let them decide for themselves. You don't go to a classical concert to find out that the conducter changed his mind and want the orchestra to play Jazz.
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planet_zohar
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 01:39
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yah and ppl choose, and this is why we dont have prog in israel cuzz there are prob 100 lunitics who likes it
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nobody_3
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 01:45
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Then let those lunatics decide for themselves and let them enjoy what they want without the Full On scene stuff their music down their troaths and virsa versa. Anyway I know that more than 100 people like progressive in Israel. They just need some better organising and some people that are dedicated to do some parties. |
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traveller
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 01:52
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On 2003-09-25 01:35, Elysium Project wrote:
I am quite sure that 90% of all Full On people would prefer not to listen to progressive at the parties and I am sure the same goes for the progressive listeners...
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I KNEW IT! Even they don't like the music.. they just want to be rebels =)
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salvia_divinorum
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 02:46
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here in portugal there are already only prog parties and only full on parties... even though much more full on parties than prog... you just gotta watch the line up... and now that i think about it... yup, that's a cool thing. but i still think there should be parties with all styles of trance sometimes...
When I dance, I put myself in the DJ's hands to take me to a journey - the unconscious journey to reality
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traveller
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 03:17
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even hard trance?
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 04:09
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On 2003-09-25 03:17, traveller wrote:
even hard trance?
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Sure! 
But not for me...  |
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Candy
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 10:10
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Indeed Elysium, and who went out with statements about Atmos saying that full on ppl will not like it? I did not hear anybody complain about it except for the progressive lovers. Talking about being open minded...
Majority is never right!
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Sep 25, 2003 11:08
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On 2003-09-25 01:35, Elysium Project wrote:
Why do people that want to listen to progressive and more housy stuff have to go to parties where the music is Full On? And why should people that want Full On have to listen to Progressive? |
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How can U reach any open-mindness if U don't have ANY points of comparison ??
And please don't tell me that U can have these points at home, this is wrong !! Nothing else than a serious sound system highly pushed up can demonstrate U the power/efficiency of a track... progressive or full on...
Let's take the example of Jamaïca !!!
How many "sub-genres" of Jamaican are there ??
From far old Rythm & Blues, Ska, Rock Steady, Reggae, Dub, DanceHall, Raggamuffin to nowadays ElektroDub... do U think there were as many events as all these stylez ??
Nooooo just one same Vibration... with different meanings of expression (lyrics, tempo, etc..)
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