And it's about the same price or even cheaper than the Virus Ti2 This sure looks like the real deal!
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Posted : Oct 31, 2012 12:28
^^ there is a version 2 of the fondation now if i remember correctly.
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Posted : Nov 8, 2012 19:06
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^^ there is a version 2 of the fondation now if i remember correctly.
I read so.
The difference is 2 voices instead of 1 am I correct?
Ever since I own a Slim Phatty, my Virus Snow just sounds soo digital, it's not funny anymore So I'm really considering whether I should keep it or get myself another analog synth.
Maybe I should just sell it and get a Virus B + X0xb0X for example.
But another synth which caught my attention is the Oberheim Sem Pro, it's (multimode) filter sounds awesome.
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Posted : Nov 8, 2012 22:34
yep the sem sound great, a bit modern but there is good quality in the sound imo, the multimod filter sound great. would love to have one too buthave other priority for now , but using it with my Xs as a modular would be fun
btw i m thinkign to get that sequencer later, it seems to have good feature for composing
dunno about the fondation version 2, it s still one voice i think.
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Posted : Nov 8, 2012 22:55
i was looking the feature on the Fr site, too bad it can't be used for modulation it seems, find it strange as it was made to be used with the xs at first but it look intresting with some nice feature, might get tempted
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Posted : Nov 9, 2012 21:54
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i was looking the feature on the Fr site, too bad it can't be used for modulation it seems, find it strange as it was made to be used with the xs at first but it look intresting with some nice feature, might get tempted
That does seem strange indeed!
How is the XS, is it like an advanced 303 kind of synth?
And another synth which I just discovered yesterday is the Mono Lancet, just about 400 bucks and it packs a pretty good amount of possibilities for that price.
Only downside is it has only 1 envelope.
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Posted : Nov 9, 2012 22:57
i was wrong asked jered the man behind future retro and the orb have cv outs to use as modulation .
for sequencing i have find great softwares, like reaktor or the king numerlogy , i like sometimes step sequenceurs for making some synth line it can be fun... but i also love the more random aproach of sequenceur like spiral in reaktor. would love to make a tune just with all these sort of sequencing ..something kinda weird and futuristic..i call it algorithmic composition , it s basically the computers that make the music, it s a lot of fun but not easier at all as one would think comparing to more traditonal aproach of composing but way more complex imo, it s part of the futur, robots music .
about the Xs it s not really a 303 , it s something between a pro one and a sh101 maybe, i dont have much experience with analog synth but guys that have say it sound in that direction ,it s a chamelon but it tend to go easily to squelchy ,riiping ,acid,cutting sounds more than warmer sound a la moog .
i think it s a lot cause of the filters, it play a major role in the caractere of analog synths , the Xs have 12db multimode filter
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Posted : Nov 10, 2012 02:23
was stuck in a loopitus playing with the Xs on a acid goa line..bought it from a project where i need it mostly for drums and sfx but such a shame i don t find time and motivation to make some tunes, for me the soudn was really out of this world and a quality i don t hear in psytrance i listen.
i used Xs > eq for a bit of transfo love and little equing , softening the highs as it easy bright with the 2 pole filter > culture vulture left side to culture vulture right side for double tubes love phat warm distortion > compressor for a bit more in your face sound but not really needed after the cv that tamed all the peaks> eq for fine adjustement > in the daw with reaktor delay still some of my fav after all these years > ear orgasme. should do a A/B with zebra or massive but i guess after a chain like this it wont make much difference ,the analog filter might still have the edge for sound with resonance but not too sure as analog saturation on digital filters make them sound a lot closer to analog ones and the highs are a lot sweeter and silkyer after the cv and eq, plus the transfos tam digital transients and the cv round them nicely
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Posted : Nov 10, 2012 18:46
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about the Xs it s not really a 303 , it s something between a pro one and a sh101 maybe, i dont have much experience with analog synth but guys that have say it sound in that direction ,it s a chamelon but it tend to go easily to squelchy ,riiping ,acid,cutting sounds more than warmer sound a la moog .
i think it s a lot cause of the filters, it play a major role in the caractere of analog synths , the Xs have 12db multimode filter
I think I want an XS now.
The edgier sound and multimode filter is just what I'm looking for.
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Posted : Nov 11, 2012 15:27
new sem could be nice too ,i really like the sound. Xs i find it tricky to program be sure to spend some time into it but it s very versatile. i would advice it for someone into techno, goa, full on or dark psy...could be the way i program it but to me it don t have cheesy commercail sounds caractere, it s a bit like nords but the sound is meatier and analog.. like i said it s very versatile so would not be suprised it would be good in most situtation with good programin skill. it s also good at drums and percussion making it great for all sort techno sounds..also great at fx .
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Posted : Nov 11, 2012 16:04
if u are intrested in this synth i can record few sounds when i have time so you get a idea how it sound with psy leads, like fm, pwm,syncro,filter fm....it also have good filter overdrive, not as orgnanic and musical as the culture vulture ,it s harder /colder but really not bad. best would be to get one and use it for some time to get a idea if it will suit you.
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Posted : Nov 12, 2012 18:53
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if u are intrested in this synth i can record few sounds when i have time so you get a idea how it sound with psy leads, like fm, pwm,syncro,filter fm....it also have good filter overdrive, not as orgnanic and musical as the culture vulture ,it s harder /colder but really not bad. best would be to get one and use it for some time to get a idea if it will suit you.
If it's not too much trouble I'll be more than thankful to hear a few examples of the XS doing Psy sounds But I'm no way in a hurry, as the price of the unit is quite high, I don't think I'll be getting one very soon.
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Posted : Nov 12, 2012 20:13
yep price is high for a mono synth and it s not the kind of synth with instant gratification (unless you go for simple patchs, like acid saw, simple pwm goa leads..) , lot of care into the programing is needed the sweet spots can be small with so much range and modulation routing/source.
it s kind of synth that really gel well with fx too
this was made by a gearslut guy who own a xs and sh 101, in most case in the green it s hard to distinguish both from what he said , if you look at the range i think it explain why the xs can be a bit hard to make sound great as there is a lot more spots than a 101, on a synth if you double the modulation range it s capable the sweet spots will get narrower and harder to find , it make the synth harder to program but the plus it s that it offer more possilbitie for creating sound.
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Posted : Nov 12, 2012 20:49
i would need to try a sh101 but if it can replace it and have so much more features like you can see on the diagram, the price of a Xs that sell brand new and very well built is really good compared to a used sh 101 ..i think it can,specially with fx on tops.. when i listen old goa i often feel like the xs is used all over the place..but it was not out yet
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Posted : Nov 13, 2012 22:24
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yep price is high for a mono synth and it s not the kind of synth with instant gratification (unless you go for simple patchs, like acid saw, simple pwm goa leads..) , lot of care into the programing is needed the sweet spots can be small with so much range and modulation routing/source.
it s kind of synth that really gel well with fx too
this was made by a gearslut guy who own a xs and sh 101, in most case in the green it s hard to distinguish both from what he said , if you look at the range i think it explain why the xs can be a bit hard to make sound great as there is a lot more spots than a 101, on a synth if you double the modulation range it s capable the sweet spots will get narrower and harder to find , it make the synth harder to program but the plus it s that it offer more possilbitie for creating sound.
I´m a fan of simple sounds just as much as I like complicated stuff.
Simple squelchy saw leads and ripping filter sweeps are great!
And I came across that diagram from gearslutz, looks really useful!
