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Video Interview with GOA GIL
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J
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Posted : May 10, 2007 16:54
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On 2007-05-10 16:49, spytooned psytones wrote:
offtopic-ontopic: Grandpa within psy-trance = He's an old guy who has been doing psy-trance since long long time ago.
So why shouldn’t he be considered a grandpa of the psy-trance scene? 
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Fair enough.
And I don't think that US$1000 is a overcharged, considering the 18 hours set he plays.
And yes, the guy is a legend.
Maybe not for his music, but for what he has, and keep on doing to Psy-Trance.
Thumbs up to Goa Gil! 
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kazuku
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Posted : May 10, 2007 17:48
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Hehe lots of emotion here.....nice read. Imo The Nommos sound is class a psytrance, and also as a dj he plays righteous sound. Ive bashed his mixing before, however now i realise that many of the mixes I heard were from DAT. He has alot of musical background, having played in psychedelic rock bands and from his production skills. Im sure if he wanted to "omg wtf pwn" through a different mixing style he could, its just the way he likes to do things and present music in an undiluted, original manner.....the way it was intended by the producer. Being the skilled producer he is he feels no need to overload the sound unecesarily. However this has been discussed very often in this forum so no need to spend more time on this side of the argument...
1000 Dollars too much.....hm. I think thats reasonable.
As for the spiritual side of things....this is another favourite argument on isratrance. Some people see a deeper sense in the music and psychedelic scene, some dont. So ill make this short. For me the connection between psychedelia (including psychedlic trance obviously) and spirituality was always evident. Goa Gil is one of the people who represents this side of things very well. To me he is authentic and knows what he is talking about.
To some people psychedlic means "woah dude trippy man look at those colors yeah". Some people see beyond this and realise there are many different levels to psy...its just how deep you can go and if you are willing and interested to do so. It depends what you are looking for.light entertainment and escapism....the meaning of life..ludicrus drugs...good friends...rational and irrational conspiracy theories..answers....a good time...tasty chai tea....alchemistic formulas, crunchy music..a personal exorcist...a one legged dwarf fortuneteller.. a wholelotta PLUR ....mad laser and fleuro..a camping weekend in nature ...sharlatans...tantric sex..  It all depends what you are looking for in the PSY scene.its all there...depending on your attitude and expectations I guess.
But whatever each to his own......just take out of it what you want.
Final statement:
wtf..do people get rounded up and whipped to Gil partys? Forced to pay univeral Goa Gil tribute tax? Does Goa Gil show up at random parties to ruin your day? Hell does anyone force you to buy or even download his music? Does he come round to your place to harass you with "spiritual mumbo jumbo" at 3 in the morning? Did he steel your months supply of weed or hash and smoke it all in one go to fuel his 24 hour mixing drive?
No? I didnt think so.
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daark
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Posted : May 10, 2007 18:22
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On 2007-05-10 16:49, spytooned psytones wrote:
offtopic-ontopic: Grandpa within psy-trance = He's an old guy who has been doing psy-trance since long long time ago.
So why shouldn’t he be considered a grandpa of the psy-trance scene?
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Yep! u know, one of the first who has been doing it.I saw a photo of him and hoffman!!!I dont worship the elders, i respect them.Just as i would respect anyone! |
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moki
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Posted : May 10, 2007 19:37
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On 2007-05-10 10:14, D.A.R.K wrote:
Regarding giving him a title of Grandfather or Pope or Pundit, its not him who is demanding the title, its the inner feeling that ppl have towards him make them respect him in that manner.
HAR HAR MAHADEO !!!
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Yeah, exactly..This is exactly the point. He never called himself a guru, a godfather of trance or a shaman. Actually i am sure that if somebdy would use the word godfather of goa trance in his presence, he would just laugh about it. Or just say a joke and smoke a chillum.
If somebody believes tha Goa Gil insists on being treated as a guru or something better than anyone else, you are wrong, really, it is just not the case, or at least i never felt something like that....
I saw how he behaved on the Kumba Mela among all those holy people, and it was an incredible amount of respect that he had in front of the sacred.
So he never called himself godfather of goa trance, actually others did. I call him like that because for me he was really the initiation 10 years ago, he was the one who showed me the deep meaning of the trance dance experience. So this is just a word to describe how much i respect him and all that he did for so many people all over the world. Of course there are some other godfathers of trance, sure, but nevertheless i ould like to call him the godfathre of trance because i deeply feel that for me he was a kind of spiritual teacher. And i am not the only one, i am sure. It has nothing to do with a star cult or a cult of authorities, it just a way to say how thankful we are and how much we love him and respect him. I am wondering why there must be always people who blame us for calling him like that.
....it is just what we feel deep inside.....
Hare Hare Mahadev:)
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daark
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Posted : May 10, 2007 19:55
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because you motivate/provoke others who dont know him. personaly.
Make a movie about the others it would be nice:)
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Magox
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Posted : May 10, 2007 19:58
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I don't see a problem if the big baba wants to have a party his way. Afterall, thats all it is, and he admits , ONE BIG PARTY!! He's just doing it his way. Like it or leave it.
You can sort of tell after hearing his interview that he does believe that his parties have more "purpose". This is what he believes, he believes that instead of just putting together all these random artists from various organizers, that he can offer a party with more meaning.
Obviously his opinion is biased but it is what he truly believes. I dont see any problem with anyone acting on their own true suspicions.....
respect to the big baba
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mubali
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Posted : May 11, 2007 03:08
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Funny enough, if you ever mention to gil that he's the guy who helped start the psychedelic trance scene, he's quick to correct you and say that he's just one of the people who started this.
I may not share the same spiritual beliefs that others do, I do feel sometimes at certain parties that it's more than just a slightly hedonistic gathering. I do feel that sense of community that the tribes had back in the day... In the end, like anything people hold very dear to them like spirtuality or music, people will misinterpret others and label things that really don't need to be...
The idea to put something in a box not only identifies it, but it also limits it... If you aren't down for what Gil's about, that's cool. As much as I'd love to believe the PLUR thing, it died a slow horrible death to the hands pretentiousness and practicality.
No wonder hippies got a bad name, what they were talking about could have had limitless applications, but now those people are seen as unrealistic dreamers and their concepts get passed off as far fetched... However, let me point out the amount of recycling that's happening in the world... Nobody really wants to acknowledge that it was a concept that the hippies discussed a lot, but it's commonplace to see recycling in many cities around the world... But as soon as you start talking about more things like this, you get told to go hug a tree...
Anyway, you don't have to agree with what he's about... but anyone who's been doing this for as long as he has and hasn't really compromised his vision, should deserve some respect at least for staying true to what he's been about. I can say that others compromised their vision in a lot less time...
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Posted : May 11, 2007 03:58
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moki
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Posted : May 12, 2007 15:10
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On 2007-05-10 19:55, daark wrote:
because you motivate/provoke others who dont know him. personaly.
Make a movie about the others it would be nice:)
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actually it is not only those who do not know him ..... Also in Goa I kept hearing it from people who didn't understand what this whole " tribute to Goa Gil" is all about. I have the feeling that there are some people out there who do not even get what he actually has done for this whole culture worldwide. This is very sad to me. I first realize it on the Full Moon festival in Germany some years ago, where he played and where I kept hearing some nonsense about him from people around. Then some years later came also the organizers of other festivals who did not get why he does not want to play on a bigger festival here. They were pissed off. And I just realized that they do not get it!!!! And this was actually the beginning of my concentrating on the dark side of psychedelic trance, because I realized that most of the people don't even have a clue what he is talking about and that a psychedelic party is a ritual.
I don't get it, actually I am totally anti- authority and anti-starcult oriented but in this case it is something different because I find that his concept is really amazing, and everything he says in this interview is really truly wise. It is what the trance gatherings are all about or at least I have never met a dj who can express that in this certain way.So what is wrong with calling him godfather of goatrance? And it is not just the teens and the people who do not know him , who keep accusing us about calling him like that. I don't understand if there are people who do not get what he actually has to say?
Anyway ,the film about Kumbha Mela, well, yeah I really need some contributed tracks for that. Some made especially for that. The shots I have are not that professional because I was walking with a small hand camera through the happening and it was a very intensive experience so that it was not really possible to concentrate on shooting...And if I had concentrated on that, I would miss to experience it with the heart. I could make something like a video essay on that but it has to have a really suitable soundtrack and animations in order to be watchable at all.
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daark
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Posted : May 14, 2007 15:57
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There is nothing wrong in callin people godfathers or whatever!sorry for bitchin' about words:)it really doesn't matter it's your imho and it's cool!Some people think that all that stuff he sais it is just a promo for his music.Like he needs one?I truly love his work and what he does.Maybe for u he's a godfather for me a grandfather, whatever.I know him as Goa Gil thats all.All i know is that there is truth in his words.When he said that being a sadhu is to give up the material world i really was amazed.Because i thought he is just havin a great time travelling around the world visiting festivals and blow peoples minds away.Like life on the road or something, and with a companion...In such a way i thought thats like fuckin perfect!i didn't knew he has really dedicated his life to something and very deeply involved in those kind of gatherings and that he's spiritualy developed that way.I knew nothing about him being a sadhu.All i knew is that he seriously kicks ass! nonstop!!!What i want to say is that fanatism really sucks in all of its ways.But damn it! if something blows u away that way you never felt before is hard not to become a fanatic, and it is not bad at all to devote youreself to something that u trully believe in.As long as u r not being fooled!Beliving in one false principle is the begining of all foolishnes.I think that people just dont trust his words or don't see the beuaty in what he does or the wisdom in what he says.And maybe if people will open there minds a little and show compassion and understanding to themselves and to each other everything will look much prettier!I really connect to him in a certain way about hes views.We all have our ways.I know that there is more than what is goin on nowadays parties.Big bless to U!
and big respect to him that guy really knows what he does!He inspired me a lot with his music then, and now i know a lot more from his words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The sadhus are cool too but to me they are not more than a mystery.They look like fanatics to me.I know looks can fool.
I do believe that the ritual and the music are important in life!!!But there are things to be achieved before u can throw everything away and dedicate yourself just to that!By the way i still havent saw the whole movie and did not uploaded it once more:(...It would be really nice to have a faster stream...and
One question is this interview were shot in his home?Like is this his house?
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR WORK!
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kazuku
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Posted : May 14, 2007 16:17
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Worldbridger rules
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moki
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Posted : May 14, 2007 19:24
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Hey daark,
first of all thank you very much for your words. It makes me really really happy to read that:). Nice to hear that this video brought you a bit nearer to the essence of this concept.
You dont have to like the sadhus or follow them, the only important thing is just to realize that the psychedelic party is much much more than just some nice music and dancing : it is a spiritual experience. No matter how we do it, what traditions we follow, the point is to remember that the trance gatherings have always been much more than a social platform to meet people , to dance and to enjoy yourself. And as he always says: through the trance dance experience, we redefine the ancient tribal ritual of the 21. century....
About your question: this is not his home in Goa, it is shot in Berlin in a flat where he stayed last summer. The stream has become a bit slower in the last two weeks. May be it is because the interview was just put online and lots of people look at it simultaneously. Sorry for that. Maybe one day we would have the possibility to put it on our own server....
kazuku: yeah, worldbridger is brilliant!! i just tested it on saturday night during a real psychedelic experience and it was really amazing brilliant...)
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dhaturaaaa
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Posted : May 14, 2007 20:56
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very very good vid , after watching the vid , i can actually appreciate the 36 years of spiritual hard work gill baba has done , its very humble'ing, and very nice questions asked and answered,
Moki.about the grandpa thing , i can see how much respect you have for gill baba , but , he himself says not to call him any grandfather or anything of that sort , so maybe,all you are doing is paying your respects to the old baba , but on the other hand he himself says he does not like to be called godfather of psytrance or anything else like that,but maybe he is! , so thats that,
anyway , very nice vid , appretiate you ppl putting so much effort making the vid , and sharing the vision
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Aluxe
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Posted : May 15, 2007 08:24
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he himself says he does not like to be called godfather of psytrance or anything else like that,but maybe he is!
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Yeah which I think is the right attitude.
And you also have Raja Ram who is also like a Godfather of this scene. However I think Raja Ram made a mistake by coming out with a CD labeling himself as The Godfather. It's one thing when people call you the Godfather but to call yourself the Godfather is not very modest. But still, Raja Ram is for sure also one of the "Godfathers" one way or another.
And about Goa Gil, what I admire is that he went through the psychedelic hippie movement of the 60's in full power, however he didn't get stuck there. I mean most people that lived the psychedelic movement of the 60's are stuck only listening to psychedelic rock from that era. However Goa Gil got into fucking psy trance, and lived the Goa days in full bloom. And again he didn't get stuck in the Goa days, he is now exploring new twisted music and pushing the edge in his own way. |
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Posted : May 16, 2007 11:17
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