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NoxLupi
Nox Lupi
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 20:11
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On 2006-10-09 20:07, psytones wrote:
Just think how boring and grey our world would have been with 0 drugs/psychedelics. God's greatest gift.
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Im sorry! seams like you allready have a problem! sence nothing works in your wold and that you are color blind without drugs..
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 20:12
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Stop looking at my finger. |
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NoxLupi
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 20:14
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On 2006-10-09 20:12, psytones wrote:
Stop looking at my finger.
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WTF..
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dirty 1
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 20:20
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noxlupi...
let it go,except it dude,drugs make music sound great!
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NoxLupi
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 20:33
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Dirt.. LOL why would i give up .. haha nothing has convinced me on anything here.. where is the reply that should disprove all my statement and make me let it go ???
Or was it the "Stop looking at my finger." replye? ehhh
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Kane
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 21:27
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On 2006-10-09 18:49, Filzbiber wrote:
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On 2006-10-09 18:38, Jeller wrote:
but the drugs give it an extra dimension |
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You just put it together in one sentence 
whether this extra dimension is good or bad or makes music sounds better or worse depends on set, setting, substance, music etc.etc.
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Does some tiny peice of paper add an extra dimension to physical reality, or does your brain? Don't be stupid. |
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John
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 21:35
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On 2006-10-09 19:29, NoxLupi wrote:
Drugs and trance has nothing to do with each other! there is drugs in all of the music industry! Rock&Roll, POP, RNB, RAP, Metal etc.. you name it!
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Popular music and drugs have always been very much to do with each other - not saying its right or wrong - just thats the way it is from hash & smack with jazz;speed and rock'n'roll; hash & LSD with 60s rock; coke and US stadium rock; ganja & reggae; speed and punk; mdma and house and its various off shoots.
It doesnt mean you have to take these drugs to listen to the music - or even make the music (King Tubby - famous dub producer didnt smoke dope, many famous 60s artists drank more beer than did acid etc etc) - but I dont think you can say they are not linked.
I'll make no comment on psy trance... |
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Filzbiber
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 22:32
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On 2006-10-09 21:35, John wrote:
Popular music and drugs have always been very much to do with each other - not saying its right or wrong - just thats the way it is from hash & smack with jazz;speed and rock'n'roll; hash & LSD with 60s rock; coke and US stadium rock; ganja & reggae; speed and punk; mdma and house and its various off shoots.
It doesnt mean you have to take these drugs to listen to the music - or even make the music (King Tubby - famous dub producer didnt smoke dope, many famous 60s artists drank more beer than did acid etc etc) - but I dont think you can say they are not linked.
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Big fat WORD!!
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On 2006-10-09 20:07, NoxLupi wrote:
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go ask hieronymus bosch, salvador dali, lemmy, roger waters, john lennon, robert anton wilson, wolfgang amadeus mozart, aso.
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You have there address? |
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NO, but you can read their biographies.
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On 2006-10-09 20:07, NoxLupi wrote:
They didn't make good music because of the drugs! |
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Some of them made no music at all 
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On 2006-10-09 20:07, NoxLupi wrote:
they took the drug because it was new and interesting.. |
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and it didn't influence their work?? Come on buddy... now YOU're tripping...
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On 2006-10-09 20:07, NoxLupi wrote:
btw most of them started using drugs AFTER they got famous! |
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You're only right with the beatles and Mozart. Robert Anton Wilson only became famous because he wrote the Illuminatus-Trilogy (and he did it on acid!).
I'm sure one could continue this list for pages naming famous artists whose work is definately influenced by psychedelic drugs (and most of them tried'em before they got famous)
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On 2006-10-09 19:56, NoxLupi wrote:
i get a wee bit pissed at this message (Music and drugs go hand in hand)! cause it actualy says that people that like trance are crack heads!
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Why so cranky?? And where in the sentence "psychedelics and music/art go hand in hand" do you find the information "all trancers are drugheads"??? are you stoned?
I think you just miss the point. If you don't like drugs fine (btw then you should stop drinking tea NOW!) but just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it's all bad.
Maybe you should really chill, listen to some Bill Hicks, smile and relax... 
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NoxLupi
Nox Lupi
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 22:35
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On 2006-10-09 19:29, NoxLupi wrote:
Drugs and trance has nothing to do with each other! there is drugs in all of the music industry! Rock&Roll, POP, RNB, RAP, Metal etc.. you name it!
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Popular music and drugs have always been very much to do with each other - not saying its right or wrong - just thats the way it is from hash & smack with jazz;speed and rock'n'roll; hash & LSD with 60s rock; coke and US stadium rock; ganja & reggae; speed and punk; mdma and house and its various off shoots.
It doesnt mean you have to take these drugs to listen to the music - or even make the music (King Tubby - famous dub producer didnt smoke dope, many famous 60s artists drank more beer than did acid etc etc) - but I dont think you can say they are not linked.
I'll make no comment on psy trance...
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In what way are they linked.. they are linked to some musicans personal issues more then there music!
Taking drugs makes you want to listen to music.. well so dos happyness! Just because you can place the drug at scene dosnt mean it belongs there! so somone was on drugs at my birthday AHHH Drugs and birthdays are releated.. WTF..
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Filzbiber
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 22:38
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drugs and consciousness (and therefor mankind) are linked!!!
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NoxLupi
Nox Lupi
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 22:53
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On 2006-10-09 22:32, Filzbiber wrote:
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On 2006-10-09 20:07, NoxLupi wrote:
btw most of them started using drugs AFTER they got famous! |
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You're only right with the beatles and Mozart. Robert Anton Wilson only became famous because he wrote the Illuminatus-Trilogy (and he did it on acid!).
I'm sure one could continue this list for pages naming famous artists whose work is definately influenced by psychedelic drugs (and most of them tried'em before they got famous)
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Im not saying they didnt! and im not saying they couldnt! but what did the drug do? did the drug write the "Illuminatus Trilogy" ? would it be better if he was not influenced by Acid?
people are just placing the drug somwhere and stating its RELATED YiBiiii.. Like drinking and driving, soccer and violence, is that related two? only under the line WRONG do these 2 things come together.. (plz dont inform me that music and soccer is not the same "I KNOW" its the difrence in the relation (Avoiding stupid useless replyes sry) "Not you Filzbiber")
Drugs are in the music industry! thats a big fat fact! no way to get around that and im not trying to! but that dosnt say they have anything to do with eachother.. or that they relate or belongs together!
BTW Im cool! im pissed and i dont agree! but im cool 
Cheers
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NoxLupi
Nox Lupi
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 22:55
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On 2006-10-09 22:38, Filzbiber wrote:
drugs and consciousness (and therefor mankind) are linked!!!
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Yup! space and drugs are linked..
Jesus and trance two!
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xrust
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 23:15
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this covnersation,it has already been done many many many many times
ok ,maybe the best think for all is to stop judging and stating things according to the "common knowledge"and the "stats" and use our PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!
and to say it all in a line,drugs(psychedelix) are very cool and making you having a great time and listen to da musik superthreedimensional and think that you are a superhero and bla bla bla
BUT IT DOES NOT WORTH IT
(at least not more than once in six months  )
the equation:some thousands of braincells for a night of crazy fun in acid is not fair.
now if you excuse me i have a big fat waiting
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Filzbiber
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 23:17
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@NoxLupi
 mate, let's have a beer together (which is also a drug)
You should really check out Bill Hicks. I guess you would like it.
What I'm trying to say is: Drugs and their influences are always and everywhere. Be it the coffee you drink in the morning, your black tea in the evening (or of anyone else's if you're REALLY SOBER, but I think that's impossible ) me tripping on acid on a party, or lemmy drinking whiskey before he goes on stage. They were there when Machu Piccu was built, they were there when the DNA was discovered (Koch thanked Albert Hoffmann after he received the Nobel-Prize) and they will when mankind will colonize mars.
But this doesn't mean (and now we're closing the circle and get back to topic) the substance did it, enhanced it or declined it.
Nor does it mean music sounds better with/without drugs. It's just a catalyzer that transforms an input (and therefore also affects one's output).
Maybe RAWs Illumantus would be better if they weren't high on acid when they wrote it. Probably I wouldn't have had (god how complicated, is this proper english) to make a break each now and then and smoke a joint reflecting on what I just read to understand it.
But sorry, it's late and I'm getting stoned and extravagating.
So just enjoy your music, with or without drugs and don't try to convince your fellow-trancer it's better either this way or that way
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Filzbiber
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Filzbiber
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Posted : Oct 9, 2006 23:25
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On 2006-10-09 23:15, X_RUST wrote:
ok ,maybe the best think for all is to stop judging and stating things according to the "common knowledge"and the "stats"(...) |
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Uhm those are the voices who told the earth is flat, ignoring all evidence proving the opposite, until some crazy dude sailed around the world? Or that told 5years ago Iraq has got weapons of mass destruction?
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On 2006-10-09 23:15, X_RUST wrote:
and to say it all in a
the equation:some thousands of braincells for a night of crazy fun in acid is not fair.
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This information might be correct with alcohol, amphetamine and mdma but for sure not with LSD, Mescaline, Psilocybin and the other "Classic Psychedelics". Source: http://www.erowid.org.
Don't get me wrong, drugs are not "easy" and there are certainly substances outthere that are heavily dangerous. But I just can't stand it when Malinformation is spread out.
Peace
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