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Vermeee
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Posted : Aug 3, 2007 00:44
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Posted : Aug 3, 2007 00:58
Musical Scales 1.0.1

http://www.download.com/Musical-Scales/3000-2170_4-10669304.html?tag=lst-0-1           www.myspace.com/aliasix
jivamukti
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Posted : Aug 3, 2007 10:00
I think you should've posted to the sticky-ed "Mother of Music Theory" thread.           When rain dries, clouds form.
When clouds moisten, rain forms.
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Posted : Aug 3, 2007 11:22
Mike, cheers for that link           Crackling universes dive into their own neverending crackle...
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psilonaut
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Posted : Oct 15, 2007 08:14
I've been reading a good book in my local bookshop called "Idiots guide to music composition" I've probably learnt more from it than anything else i've read on music theory.
djbadboy

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Posted : Nov 2, 2007 01:42
Robert Todds melody writing tutorial. Its pretty good!

http://www.trancetutorial.com/Melody%20Writing%20For%20Beginners.htm
Elad
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Posted : Dec 1, 2007 05:01
nice one here
http://www.howmusicreallyworks.com/

some great links! tnx all!           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
acidkills
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Posted : Dec 11, 2007 14:34
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On 2007-05-07 09:09, bukboy wrote:
DUDES!!!!!
this is the most awesomest book I ever seen about music!!!!!
Ron Gorow - HEARING and Writing Music - Proffesional training for todays musicians.


Thanks man, nice book really..
Did u try Ear master School 5 and Earope Advanced Ear Training?
Music theory net is essential for everyone..


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On 2007-11-02 01:42, djbadboy wrote:
Robert Todds melody writing tutorial. Its pretty good!

http://www.trancetutorial.com/Melody%20Writing%20For%20Beginners.htm


I can only say interesting like the voice in the track Im listening now is repeating over and over..          http://www.myspace.com/djacidkills
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NYDJ4life
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Posted : Dec 20, 2007 10:45
Nice thread here.

I would also recommend this book:

"This is your brain on music" by Daniel Levitin
http://www.yourbrainonmusic.com/

Had to read it for a music theory class, and its like a Bible to me now!
Talks about everything from the basic music theories & rhythms,
to deeper philosophies, and how music and the brain are interconected.

I think it also became a New York times best seller.
Has anyone read it?
Nomad Moon
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Posted : Dec 20, 2007 16:36
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On 2007-11-02 01:42, djbadboy wrote:
Robert Todds melody writing tutorial. Its pretty good!

http://www.trancetutorial.com/Melody%20Writing%20For%20Beginners.htm



Thank u! thank u|! thank u! that was made for me ,and by request           Tudo que é melhor e mais superior em mim saúda tudo que é melhor e mais alto em si
bukboy
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Posted : Jan 10, 2008 13:17
Some stuff I read up which u guys may find useful. Thought Id share.

1. Emotion is associated in music by making music mimic the human voice expressing an emotion, like happiness or anger.

2. Emotion is associated in music by making music mimic human motion during an emotion, like bouncing in happiness, or wilting slow sadness etc.

Additional interest reading

http://www.mnstate.edu/gracyk/courses/aesthetics%20of%20music/hanslickII.htm
bukboy
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Posted : Jan 16, 2008 10:45
technically, a phrase is defined as a small group of notes which makes up a single musical idea. whereas a section is made up of phrases, i.e. a section is made up of a number of musical ideas.

practically a section which is made up of a question and answer, is made up of two phrases, i.e. a question phrase and answer phrase.

In one example, in "enjoy the silence" by depeche mode, in the chorus which goes
A = "All I ever wanted" B = "All I ever needed"
C = "Is here" D = "In My arms"
E = "Words are very" F = "Unnecessary"
G = "They can only do harm"

AB CD EF G all make up "phrases".
A & B are similar motifs
C & D are simlar motifs
E & F are also motifs . (i.e. motifs are repeated ideas)
but the whole that is made up of 4 phrases is an 8 bar "section". A "section" is defined as one complete large idea. (sections are also repeated in much the same way that phrases and motifs are, but on a larger scale)
A section can be made up of any number of phrases but in the above chorus it was made up of 4.

NOW that a "section" is defined, there are different kinds of sections, balanced, unbalanced, and symmetrical or unsymmetrical.

Balanced section is one where the number of phrases is even(in most cases) or when the phrases add up to an even amount of time, in the above example the section is balanced because ABCD is balanced by EFG (G is twice as long as the others)

An Unbalanced section would be one like ABCDEF (without G to balance)

A symmetrical section is where all the phrases are symmetrical (i.e. they are all just as long) So the example above is not symmetrical.

NOW balance and symmetry are used for different reasons.
balance is used to give sections a feeling of completeness, whereas "unbalance" is used to thwart the listeners expectations(hit them with a new section when theyr not expecting it, or delay the next section so that it builds up tension in expectation).

Symmetry/unsymmetry on the other hand amounts to monotony/interest, so if want to express a monotonous effect then symmetry is the way. Or if u want interest then make ur sections unsymmetical.

Now to finally get to your question. In psy, breaks act as punctuation for sections. not as entities for their own sake.(although if u really want to make a contrast I suppose u could do that once or twice)

So now my answer is - design your sections based on what effect u want them to have, then "punctuate" them.

I hope this is helpful.
PsyTiax
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Posted : Mar 4, 2008 19:37
Does any of you guys knows where I could find a good (not too complex) tutorial about (or which cover) anti-melody theory ?

Learning how dissonance was created was of big help, so I'd like to move a step forward !
bukboy
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Posted : Mar 5, 2008 21:28
What do u understand the word "anti-melody" to mean?
@ktif


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Posted : Mar 6, 2008 04:21
Check out this thing called the "Chord Wheel". Very useful if you have no prior musical knowledge. Takes the guesswork out of making music that is harmonically and tonaly correct. This thing is awsome.

Chord Wheel + Complete Idiots Guide to Music Composition

This combo is what I was looking for.           Chillumafia
www.chilluminati.org
http://soundcloud.com/aktif
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