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chromatic
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Posted : Feb 24, 2014 20:33:12
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hello everyone , i use fl studio 11 , and i want to buy the rme fireface uc ,but i don't know in what is gonna help me , sorry for my english |
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chromatic
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Posted : Feb 24, 2014 20:35
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and what is latency , is it necessary to have a soundcard ? thx |
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Medea
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Posted : Feb 24, 2014 23:12
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chromatic
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 00:08
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thank you so much .
so the soundcard is better than ASIO ? |
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knocz
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 00:47
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On 2014-02-25 00:08, chromatic wrote:
thank you so much .
so the soundcard is better than ASIO ?
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ASIO (Audio Stream Input/Output) is a computer driver for low-latency audio cards.
Basically, you can use Windows SDK drivers in the WDM for audio (MMX or DirectX), or ASIO; and ASIO wins big time in both speed and performance.
Good (say professional) sound card manufactures build their own proprietary ASIO drivers, and whenever available it's almost always better to use these; for devices without an ASIO driver you can use Asio4All, which still is way better than WDM for drivers. And, in some rare occasions, the Asio4All can have a better performance/stability ratio than the proprietary drivers (because bugs do happen - if they didn't there wouldn't be any updates)
Latency, if you didn't get it, is the amount of time between when you input a signal and it leaving the soundcard towards the speakers - so if you use your onboard soundcard with a DAW and you try pressing some MIDI notes, the sound will come out either (a) with a huge delay or (b) completely clipped out due to buffer overruns.
Also, a better soundcard will allow you to use more samples and processing effects at a time, and they come with AD/DA converters that allow you to transform analog-2-digital-2-analog signals (audio in and out). Better converters means better quality, and overall a better sound.
But, you don't need something so good as an RME - and maybe in that price range it might spook you out of getting one if you don't want to invest that much, but it's really a good equipment worth every penny. But you could easily go for a 100 - 300€ card and have a huge performance spike and good quality, without the nags of having to turn up your system latency because the system and soundcard cant handle your stuff!
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moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 03:27
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rme user since 2 years here. ufx and babyface. and i never ever would give it away or take any other 
as said you maybe dont need one. but if you have enough cash for it take it. it will be a very good investment for a whole decade or more =)
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Babaluma
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 10:35
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Medea
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 14:39
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On 2014-02-25 03:27, moleqlarsuperstructure wrote:
rme user since 2 years here
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Yes, after getting RME, the soundcard problem is solved
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 19:25
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if you do t know how it could help you probably don t need it ? if you need multiple in out it will help if you don t ,then it s not needed probably
rme converters dont sound that good..there are often tin and sterile sounding and not neutral but in rme price range for that number of i/O nothing is neutral i guess.. |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 20:04
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On 2014-02-25 19:25, PoM wrote:
if you do t know how it could help you probably don t need it ? if you need multiple in out it will help if you don t ,then it s not needed probably
rme converters dont sound that good..there are often tin and sterile sounding and not neutral but in rme price range for that number of i/O nothing is neutral i guess..
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can I ask in waht you're basing this m8? or, in other words, what kind of equipment have you used so that rme's AD/DA convertion sounds thin and sterile?
P:S. not questioning your opinion at all, just curious! cheers |
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 20:14
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i used other equipment but you need to do direct blind comparaison the spot difference between converters otherwise with placebo ect...i m sure 100% sure of this than many rme color the sound in a more unpleasing way that what it s actually is..and for psytrance you better need somethign neutral or something that make what you record sound better..
let say you record a good analog synth, it will sound 90% as good as it should be and on a full track it will make a noticeable difference.. some would tell you night and day but it depends how much details matter.. |
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Medea
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 20:23
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 20:29
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tbh i dont know...all the one i used color the sound in a way..so it will be more about taste i guess..external converterns like prism, linx hilo , lavry ect.. one probably can t go wrong..
rme usally driver are great and never had problem with their stuff..but if i was looking for sound i would probably try some motu
from ad/da loop measurment vs the unconverted file some motu are on par with top converters and soundcard like metric halo lio8
i have seen rme small protable thing measurment..the damn thing hipass everything you record around 40 hz if my memory is correct , it s sure to sound thin.. |
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Suloo
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Posted : Feb 25, 2014 22:50
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i`m surprised cause i think motu sounds pretty mumphy somehow..funny how subjective this is.
i`m totally happy with the sound of the fireface 400, and the drivers well, never had a single problem with them in years..
and cutted at 40HZ? i doubt that, otherwise please provide the measurement as a fact. -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.- |
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moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Feb 26, 2014 00:21
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