soundcard rme

On 2014-02-28 10:40, Babaluma wrote:I know loads of people who used to think RME converters were great, then upgraded to something better and were stunned at the positive difference.

On 2014-02-28 14:10, Upavas wrote:

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On 2014-02-28 10:40, Babaluma wrote:I know loads of people who used to think RME converters were great, then upgraded to something better and were stunned at the positive difference.

Give us some product examples please, and if you happen to know, please tell us about driver reliability and wordclock in these products too! Thanks!

I'll give you one Psy Trance example. Dave from Dog Of Tears recently upgraded from RME to an Antelope Orion conversion, and has been absolutely stunned. Info thread here:

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99860

Product examples: Anything from Forssell, Crookwood, Burl, Lavry, Prism, Antelope etc. The high end converter market has been very well documented on forums such as Gearslutz. The info is out there, feel free to research it!

Regarding driver reliability: Most high end converters do not come with drivers, because they do not need them. They come with balanced XLR analogue ins and out, and digital connections on AES (or MADI/DB25) ports. You need a computer interface with AES (or MADI/DB25) connectors to "talk" to the converters. This is why I love and use an RME (HDSPe AES), because their driver stability is renowned. Their conversion quality however, is not.

Regarding word clock: It's a whole other kettle of fish. Most people these days are clocking via the AES ports, as that way can often equal better reliability. More info here:

http://prorecordingworkshop.lefora.com/topic/19403422/AESEBU-vs-CoaxBNC-for-system-clocking

It might be better, from a work flow point of view, to use word clock (with coax cable) if you have a complex system with many pieces of digital hardware. But here I have never had any problems clocking everything (AES interface, PC, and DACs) off of the ADC's AES sync output.

On 2014-03-01 01:13, Suloo wrote:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/antelope_isochrone_10m.htm

5699€ for only one button

On 2014-03-01 03:11, Crnorizec Hrabar wrote:

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On 2014-03-01 01:13, Suloo wrote: http://www.thomann.de/gb/antelope_isochrone_10m.htm 5699€ for only one button

Yes this is the only key to Flow/Nano Records + (plus) you can change your Artist name to Name Middlename Surname i.e. Armin Van Dame or something!

Enjoy your endless trance career for only 5699€ VAT included!

On 2014-03-01 00:39, Crnorizec Hrabar wrote:

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I'll give you one Psy Trance example. Dave from Dog Of Tears recently upgraded from RME to an Antelope Orion conversion, and has been absolutely stunned. Info thread here: http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99860 Product examples: Anything from Forssell, Crookwood, Burl, Lavry, Prism, Antelope etc. The high end converter market has been very well documented on forums such as Gearslutz. The info is out there, feel free to research it! Regarding driver reliability: Most high end converters do not come with drivers, because they do not need them. They come with balanced XLR analogue ins and out, and digital connections on AES (or MADI/DB25) ports. You need a computer interface with AES (or MADI/DB25) connectors to "talk" to the converters. This is why I love and use an RME (HDSPe AES), because their driver stability is renowned. Their conversion quality however, is not. Regarding word clock: It's a whole other kettle of fish. Most people these days are clocking via the AES ports, as that way can often equal better reliability. More info here: http://prorecordingworkshop.lefora.com/topic/19403422/AESEBU-vs-CoaxBNC-for-system-clocking It might be better, from a work flow point of view, to use word clock (with coax cable) if you have a complex system with many pieces of digital hardware. But here I have never had any problems clocking everything (AES interface, PC, and DACs) off of the ADC's AES sync output.

Oh come on man, please.. This guys are not trying to become mastering engineers, or high end audiophiles, they/we are trying to produce music in their bedrooms, on speakers like krk and adam, in FL11 or Ableton, in untreated room. And you are trying to sell them 3000+ bucks worth of lavrys? Whats next Crane Song HEDD for recording Viruses and Nord leads? Please people dont forget to buy the latest George Massenburg Eq plugin and the latest version of Sound Blade..

Btw pick up a pair of Stax headphones, Bob Katz loves them!

Crnorizec

On 2014-03-01 11:20, Babaluma wrote:

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On 2014-03-01 00:39, Crnorizec Hrabar wrote: Quote: I'll give you one Psy Trance example. Dave from Dog Of Tears recently upgraded from RME to an Antelope Orion conversion, and has been absolutely stunned. Info thread here: http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99860 Product examples: Anything from Forssell, Crookwood, Burl, Lavry, Prism, Antelope etc. The high end converter market has been very well documented on forums such as Gearslutz. The info is out there, feel free to research it! Regarding driver reliability: Most high end converters do not come with drivers, because they do not need them. They come with balanced XLR analogue ins and out, and digital connections on AES (or MADI/DB25) ports. You need a computer interface with AES (or MADI/DB25) connectors to "talk" to the converters. This is why I love and use an RME (HDSPe AES), because their driver stability is renowned. Their conversion quality however, is not. Regarding word clock: It's a whole other kettle of fish. Most people these days are clocking via the AES ports, as that way can often equal better reliability. More info here: http://prorecordingworkshop.lefora.com/topic/19403422/AESEBU-vs-CoaxBNC-for-system-clocking It might be better, from a work flow point of view, to use word clock (with coax cable) if you have a complex system with many pieces of digital hardware. But here I have never had any problems clocking everything (AES interface, PC, and DACs) off of the ADC's AES sync output. Oh come on man, please.. This guys are not trying to become mastering engineers, or high end audiophiles, they/we are trying to produce music in their bedrooms, on speakers like krk and adam, in FL11 or Ableton, in untreated room. And you are trying to sell them 3000+ bucks worth of lavrys? Whats next Crane Song HEDD for recording Viruses and Nord leads? Please people dont forget to buy the latest George Massenburg Eq plugin and the latest version of Sound Blade.. Btw pick up a pair of Stax headphones, Bob Katz loves them! Crnorizec

I don't understand your criticism at all. I wasn't trying to sell anyone anything. I was trying to be helpful in answering all of the points that Upavas raised, which was clearly quoted in my response. The fact that you failed to spot these things speaks volumes about you.

And there's no way I'd buy a Massenburg "plugin", when I could have the real thing. About to swap out my Chandler TG2 for a GML 8302. Just because you can't hear the difference, or don't have the funds, doesn't mean all of us are in the same situation...

On 2014-03-01 13:55, vipal wrote:
hello chromatic, that rme soundcard is super (i have it) but if you spend less then a 3rd of the money that this rme costs you probably wont notice any difference between the cheaper one and the rme for the first 3 years in your production carreer. number one is a good computer, 2 is the monitors 3 is the soundcard, budget priority wise. but if you have lots of cash go for it.

On 2014-02-28 17:44, Babaluma wrote:

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On 2014-02-28 14:10, Upavas wrote: Quote: On 2014-02-28 10:40, Babaluma wrote:I know loads of people who used to think RME converters were great, then upgraded to something better and were stunned at the positive difference. Give us some product examples please, and if you happen to know, please tell us about driver reliability and wordclock in these products too! Thanks!

I'll give you one Psy Trance example. Dave from Dog Of Tears recently upgraded from RME to an Antelope Orion conversion, and has been absolutely stunned. Info thread here:

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99860

Product examples: Anything from Forssell, Crookwood, Burl, Lavry, Prism, Antelope etc. The high end converter market has been very well documented on forums such as Gearslutz. The info is out there, feel free to research it!

Regarding driver reliability: Most high end converters do not come with drivers, because they do not need them. They come with balanced XLR analogue ins and out, and digital connections on AES (or MADI/DB25) ports. You need a computer interface with AES (or MADI/DB25) connectors to "talk" to the converters. This is why I love and use an RME (HDSPe AES), because their driver stability is renowned. Their conversion quality however, is not.

Regarding word clock: It's a whole other kettle of fish. Most people these days are clocking via the AES ports, as that way can often equal better reliability. More info here:

http://prorecordingworkshop.lefora.com/topic/19403422/AESEBU-vs-CoaxBNC-for-system-clocking

It might be better, from a work flow point of view, to use word clock (with coax cable) if you have a complex system with many pieces of digital hardware. But here I have never had any problems clocking everything (AES interface, PC, and DACs) off of the ADC's AES sync output.

On 2014-03-01 14:31, Suloo wrote:

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On 2014-03-01 13:55, vipal wrote: hello chromatic, that rme soundcard is super (i have it) but if you spend less then a 3rd of the money that this rme costs you probably wont notice any difference between the cheaper one and the rme for the first 3 years in your production carreer. number one is a good computer, 2 is the monitors 3 is the soundcard, budget priority wise. but if you have lots of cash go for it.

you forgot room accoustics