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C3PO
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 04:45
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this one is for monno :
http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/prod_1394.html
(comes with drivers for win/mac)
About soundcards in general , i think that RME is
one of the best u can get for this money .
I totally agree with everyone who had positive replys
about RME , because now i heard it and it sounds
just great.
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monno
Grapes Of Wrath
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 05:34
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Sound Surgeon
Crater / Mish-kah
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 11:10
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On 2003-02-18 11:01, SuperGlue wrote:
i wonder how ppl can say that rme sounds better than m-audio products !!!!
u fellas have good ears ah ,,, even hardware monitoring can't do such things !!!!!
now i got it u all sound engeeniers with monitoring systems in ur heads !!!! great where can i buy such chipset 4 my brain also i need memory for head coz mine go out 4 a while !!!
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Sound Department
Street Electronix 7
Heaven
ask for a fellow name God, he will help u |
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Yuli
Retired
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Posted : Feb 19, 2003 04:22
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Trip -
The whole thing is that even if both cards ( RME and Delta ) have the same AD/DA converters, I believe u will agree that these converters are RME converters... So it is quite obvious, that there is quite a chance that all the box of RME will act better than the Delta..
It is like the Peugeot 306.. It has Porsche brand engine.. but it surely ain't no Porsche - or is it? 
 A man with a "master plan" is often a woman |
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Weaver
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Posted : Mar 30, 2003 16:50
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The question depands on so many things!!!
How many I/O's do u need? do u need a good midi card, or just a midi-in/out/thru for your control keyboard? do u record live? do u need a preamp for Mics and Guitars, or do u have an external mixer?
My Recomendations:
1) A Sound card with REAL 24Bit/96Hz I/O . no emulators or other shit ( like the MAIA soundcard... ) .
2) NO USB. Only Firewire or internal cards. USB's no good. cant trust those cards.
3) If u'r not going to record Live intruments or have a mixer, u dont need more then 2 mono Inputs. Outputs if for you'r own decision, which i suggest 4 Outs ( All mono ) 2 for Monitoring and 2 for an external Amp.
4) If u have any amp with SPDIF digital input, search for a card with SPDIF digital out. ( it's not connected to MD's and stuff, not optical.. ) .
5) Low Latency soundcard... check it's latency on each sampling rate... over 20 ms ( which is alot as well ) on 44Khz is BAD! . and, check it's drivers support. ASIO and EASI is what being used on most of the pro audio softwares ( ASIO by steinberg and EASI by emagic ) . also check for support with your Operating system ( some cards work great on win 98 but poorly on winXP.
6) like i said - check the card for pre-amp if u want to record Mics or guitars directly. some cards ( like the M-Audio delta 44/66/etc' ) doesnt have a pre-amp and u need an external one ( like the Audiobuddy which is one of the best 2 channel pre-amps i know of ).
7) MIDI!!!!! if u need a midi card ( not only for your keyboard! for the Midi sounds ) u need to buy a card with a midi chip and midi in/out. if u only wanna use VSTi and programs that only use the Wave-out channel u only need a midi bridge which is cheap and can be connected to usb ( u have many options there, edirol, midiman, steinberg, roland, any company manufactors those ) but! be aware that they dont have sounds inside, they only connect your keyboard to the computer, and u can connect an external Audio unit that supports midi with'em. thats it.
thats about it i guess, it all depands on what u need from the card, and u'r about to do. if u posted this question here, u'r probably not part of a heavy metal band, and u want to make som electro music... u need midi, low latency and not many inputs ( i'de suggest a max 4in 4 out soundcard, unless u can afford it, and then go and buy a 8/8 card with internal midi and a control unit...
May the schwartz be with ya all!!! |
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Weaver
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Posted : Mar 30, 2003 19:13
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I recommend the M-Audio Delta Series, Echo Audio sound cards, RME's, Steinberg Nuendo. the best internal i know come from those companies. i'm sure not many would agree with me, but this is what i think. i'm using the delta 66, which is GREAT! ( no pre-amp, but i use a mixer ) . his biggest advantage on the 44 ( which ig great as well ) is the SPDIF, and the 6 outputs which can be used as a suround system. my friend has the echo MIA soundcard, and from what that i've seen this card ROX.
what NOT to buy... - Audiotrak soundcards ( Emulated 24bit/96Khz and not real. uses only 18 bits... ) and not creative... they make great soundcards for the public, not for the pro's...
hope i helped!
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Weaver
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Posted : Mar 31, 2003 03:04
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Well, i was talking about proffesional sound cards for a home studio, not for a guy that plays with fruityloops all day! ...
sound cards vary in many ways - they'r I/O's, they'r latency ( which is one of the most important thing u need to look for if u r using VSTi's and midi, and a control keyboard such as oxygen or other ( MK-149 works just fine.. ), they'r sampling rate ( i know a CD is only 16bit/44Khz ... but, if u want the best sound quality in a cd, u need to work on a better sampling rate and better sampling ( 24 bits is great... ) for presicion. AND.. there are other devices like MD's or DAT that works with a better sampling rate.. )
Sound cards varies in they'r distortion rate, they'r "reaction" to High frequencies, low frequencies, they'r frequency rate! u want you'r sound card to produce some good bass in 20-60Hz... some cards dont do that! u want your piece to be the best, with no distortion!...
Ah, creative.. they rock in the home-soundcards business, but pro sound cards? the cards that will get you somehwre? no way...
u can get an internal card ( like the delta or the MIA, or even the Audiotrek MAIA ) for as low as 300-400$ ( which is not alot, if u'r serious! ), and there are places that sell it for less.
If u want to make proffesional music, u need to get a good soundcard. if u'r just playing with your abilities to run fruityloops and acid, or those music making programs such as Ejay, u dont need more than creative, correctomundo. but i dont think ( or hope ) that thats what u wanna do...
thats about it, i guess... have a nice day! |
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Weaver
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Posted : Mar 31, 2003 13:05
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Sure as hell u need! for good sync with audio?
for low latency when playing VST's, for good mastering! for everything!
if u want to be a pro, get a pro card, dont mess around with bullshits... |
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