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Hg
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Posted : Feb 16, 2003 15:38
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Can we reach a veredict here?
I'm also updating my PC and want to change sound card... Sooo, which one did we all agree was the best (cost/bennefit/versatile) ?
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Posted : Feb 16, 2003 16:44
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hi !!!!!!! : )
i have researched on the net and went to few music stores and spoke to few specialist's
have 250 euro or $500 australian dollar but willing to go up to 400 euro wich i will have next week,,,, at the moment i have concluded to go for the audiophile2496 wich is 235 euro but i m not convinced enough????do i need this???do i need that??? question mark's r starting to take over my brain??? hehe.. Im runing
*pentium III 933, 512 (pc133) SD RAM, 20g (baracuda 7200) HD with two partitions windows is in fat32 and the other half is used for recording only and is in the new fromat (htxl or somthing like that) but winXP is runing in the fat32, any recomantation on the partition structure,
Sound Blaster Live!5.1 sound card, wich i can take out or use with new card...???,dont like the latency when recording my supernova and the soud comming out of the supernova and the sound being recorded is much different wich shit's me.....
midisport 2x2 wich is used for operating minimog synth and midi communtcation with controler keyB and the supernova II rack.
*windowsXP, CubaseSX, Reason, Fruti Loops,
Generator.......
I need a card that can record the supernova and the micronord simultaniusly
*min.2 audio in and 2 audio out, or more in's and out's????
*(weel love to record the qristal clean sound from the supernova in to cubaseSX with out loosing or gaining any sound as it is, as we all)hehehe
*have un noticed latency or no latency,
not shoure if i need a digital in and out at all?????
*or should i go for more audio in's (balance), do i need more audio out's for lats say live mixing on mixing desk cubase,reason and synths ?????
while researching I came across these card's and thay are steel massing with my mind...
* echo Mia (200 euro) but apparently not a very good support with the ASIO drivers
*DMX 6FIRE (335 euro) look's intresting but did not find out much information about it, but it look's intersting with few nice features, like 5.1, all the andalog and digital ins and
outs u need.....hehe ??????
*luna II (425euro) the max$$$ i will go up to.. I may regreat for paing so much... need to save money for monitors..??????help
*M-Audio delta range (alot of people recomended the delta siries)
good drivers and allways updating, competable with my Pc and software.
sound quality, good enough, Analog l/O configurable for +4dB and -10db, measured Digital to Analog(D/A) converter 103dB and A/D 99dB.........theo options r.....
*audiophile2496, (235 euro) i dont realy need the midi with the card and no interface for easyer handeling of cables..
*delat 410, (340euro) few extra outs, intersting but still no interface..
*delta 66 (425 euro) mmmm'mmm i like this one with nice interface 6in/6out + digital out, full-duplex.. :-p
please HELP ME survive all the q?u?e?s?t?i?o?n? marks??? nightmares.........hehehe
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Feb 16, 2003 17:16
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i never said Delta is amateur card....it's your words.
on the contrary: i suggest to use Delta 66.
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Trip-
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Posted : Feb 16, 2003 18:27
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Delta66 and Delta1010 issues:
I own delta66 - I can say many good stuff about this sound card, but we are about the badz:
The routing of channels sucks in ever delta series soundcard. I really needed better routing when I was messing with lots of wires and connections, but not many ppl need it really - and that's why I bought an external mixer, because the mixing capabilities of the delta are just not there. There is no REAL mixer in Delta - it's just a monitoring mixer.
as far as everything else goes with that soundcard, Recording and low buffer latencies - it's one of those beasts 
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monno
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Posted : Feb 16, 2003 20:46
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On 2003-02-15 20:42, C3PO wrote:
if u want the best , check out http://www.apogeedigital.com
there is "Track2" and a bigger one "AD8000" .
as far as i know apogee are the best on the market .
(much better than those shitty Motu828).
anyway if u need a card for making trance music ,
go and buy creative sound blaster, u can get great results
with it and u will save your money .
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well i don´t think you are helping very much here 3po ad-8000 is an 8 in 8 out converter box and NOT a soundcard. in fact i am pretty sure that apogee doesn´t do soundcards specifically, only clever converter boxes.
ad don´t forget that the ad8000 was beaten recently by the cheaper converter units from rme. saying that a soundblaster card is good for music has to be the overstatement of the year. sure u can use em but it sucks, you can also do mixes on your boombox but it sux.see the point here. if someone is thinking about seriously making music they should search the market and get some basic understanding of electronics. if you just wanna play around then sure a soundblaster can do it but it is primarily made to look good not be good. Mastering available here:
http://www.bimmelim-soundlabs.com
http://soundcloud.com/onkeldunkel
http://www.myspace.com/onkeldunkelownz
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Trip-
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Posted : Feb 16, 2003 21:15
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Super Glue,
Delta is used in alot of big pro studios around the world - it's got excellent internal AD/DA for recording at 24/96 - I don't know what you are talking about but Delta serie was initially started for pro music industry.
RME are far into the digital domain and Creamware, which btw have some probs on some machines - are far into the DSP domain.
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medir
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Posted : Feb 17, 2003 14:22
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- let echo beside: afaik (...end of 2002 ) swiss-importers stopped supporting echo cause of bad support
- i would go for rme or m-audio.
m-audio have the better price/value ratio than rme, but rme is a bit more high-end.
check theyr pages.
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ToSe
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Posted : Feb 17, 2003 16:13
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thank U ALL for hellping me to come to a conclusion,
im going to go for delta 44 wich will be aviable in a local music store in the next few day's.
RME will be the best choice, but u r paying for so much that u r not eaven going to use....workd clock ..ect
best value for money will be m-audio (My choice from all the research i have done)
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Yuli
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Posted : Feb 17, 2003 17:18
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-Trip -
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| Delta is used in alot of big pro studios around the world - it's got excellent internal AD/DA for recording at 24/96 - I don't know what you are talking about but Delta serie was initially started for pro music industry.
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You are very much wrong here, since ( I don't know the Delta card really well, must admit that ) the RME's strong point is in their AD/DA converters, which are the best u can get in these price ranges and for sure much better ( together with it's asio ) then the Delta.
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C3PO
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Posted : Feb 17, 2003 23:16
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On 2003-02-16 20:46, monno wrote:
ad-8000 is an 8 in 8 out converter box and NOT a soundcard. in fact i am pretty sure that apogee doesn´t do soundcards specifically, only clever converter boxes.
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It can be used as firewire soundcard or standalone
AD/DA converter.
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monno
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 00:02
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well 3po... just checked the apogee website to see if i had confused things about the ad8000...
i didn´t. ad8000 is a high end converterbox with optional aes/ebu, tdif,s/pdif,or adat.
the main use of this is among protools owners who has the cash to own it.i think you are thinking about their new one way converters which i think use some sort of computer interface (usb2 or firewire) besides even if it was a firewire box it wouldn´t be a big seller among producers in this genre the cost alone is enough to buy an entire studio.
anyways to stay on the subject my money´s on rme. sure it costs a bit more but you get so much better quality (in hardware AND drivers, which is rare)buying gear must always be a long term investment ie. something that is usable a long time without being technologically "behind". the development in this area is big and new interfaces are shooting up almost every week making it more and more difficult for people to make heads or tails of all the slick adverts and promising brochure´s. i can only say good luck...and once again RME 
Mastering available here:
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http://soundcloud.com/onkeldunkel
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Trip-
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Posted : Feb 18, 2003 02:32
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Yuli,
I didn't want to get into this and I respect RME andrespect ur satisfaction with what you are experienced with. idneed you don't know about the delta as much
you would want to know that RME and Delta, got the same A-D converter chip (AK5383) - which gives the best performance in recording at the lowest noise rates at 24bit of any other soundcards in this area.
indeed the D-A converters of the RME show best performance which got other chip than the delta. But I don't do multichannel DAT recordings anyway...
how do I know this? I read here and there from experts who know better than me in these things.
Philip
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