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Psykovsky Faking Live set at Lost Theory :(
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J
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 21:05
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Booking contacts, or STFU!! 
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Login
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 21:07
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J
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 21:15
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On 2013-11-20 21:07, Login wrote:
Psykovsky "live" is as fake as it has been in this scene for many many years. Don't know why the uproar.
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Cheap promotion? 
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moki
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Posted : Nov 22, 2013 00:35
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On 2013-11-20 17:39, Colin OOOD wrote:
Ableton Live has been good enough to do 100% live performances for a long time now. Just ask Tom Cosm. That's using pre-prepared elements however;
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my definition of live includes live microtuning or at least a live based on a software that can switch and modulate the chamber pitch.
you remember once you discovered the basis of how it is done in cubase and you posted it in a topic where we talked about microtuning. this is important (to me).
not sure that ableton can do that.
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moki
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Posted : Nov 22, 2013 01:49
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actually , i am not sure that you remember that discovery of yours. the point was that this modulation and switch of the "chamber pitch" (up and down from 440 hz) has to happen in multitasking for each of the paths and best case each of the keys on the instrument/device you use, midi or whatever it is.
and you insisted in that topic that the work is done if you only change it once in cubase. live, you would have to change it in multitasking.
can ableton do this?!
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moki
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Posted : Nov 23, 2013 13:47
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life is sometimes sooooo strange and inexplainable.... i just asked the question and i received "by chance" a trial cd with ableton live 9 together with my new sound card , with all features free for 30 days. now i prove it myself, if ableton can do this.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Nov 23, 2013 19:08
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Reference pitch has nothing whatsoever to do with any controls or setting or configuration on music software such as Cubase or Ableton. It has everything to do with the instruments (virtual or physical) that create the actual sounds your music consists of.
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you remember once you discovered the basis of how it is done in cubase and you posted it in a topic where we talked about microtuning |
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This never happened. I think you're getting me confused with someone else.
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I did not make such a discovery because that's not how Cubase or Ableton work.
In the light of this, I wish you good luck with your research.
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Nov 23, 2013 21:12
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She almost got it.
Except it was Nectarios instead of Colin and Logic instead of Cubase.
So, Tina was half right. 
And so were you - obviously, Mr. Hooligan found a way of doing it in a DAW settings (although, it was neither Cubasse nor Ableton).
I won't guess whose glass is half-empty and whose is half-full here. 
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Nov 24, 2013 06:24
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moki
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Posted : Nov 24, 2013 14:04
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@ colin, i just grabbed that from the topic where we talked about it - this is a quote from you :
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http://forum.isratrance.com/432-hz-tuning-the-music-of-superconsciousness/page19/
interesting, you actually talked about ableton, i was sure , you did it about cubase too, but i can't find it. i do not take you for someone else, may be "discovery" was not the right word. you just told me and others how to do it.
btw i tried ableton live yesterday night, but i ended up swithing to presonus. to be honest, nowadays, my midi output is much more important to me than changing to super consciousness .
but our topic was actually not presonus but psykovsky.
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moki
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Posted : Nov 24, 2013 14:36
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On 2013-11-23 21:12, Maine Coon wrote:
Except it was Nectarios instead of Colin and Logic instead of Cubase.
[OT] Where is Rich? [/OT]
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yeah, indeed nectarios told us how to do it with logic (while complaining that bullshit is filling the production forum ). indeed, a topic or two about how to do a proper live would have been more appropriate than individual microtuning of planet frequencies . noone can start with B bevore having gone through A.
it was bullshit indeed. i am really sorry for that. i cannot explain to myself why it was so extremely important to me that people understand cosmic harmonics and switch to the better chamber pitch of 432 hz . for a trance exprience 8 hz make absolutely no difference. but it makes a difference if everything is preconfigured / fixed or flexible.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Nov 24, 2013 16:17
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My quote was on how much you need to detune a single 440Hz-based audio file to get it to match 432Hz tuning. I didn't 'discover' how to do that in Ableton; retuning audio like that is one of the most fundamental functions of the software. "Hey! I just discovered something about my bike, if you push the pedals round it moves forward!" - it's that kind of level.
Nectarios' discovery was about how you can retune every instrument inside Logic at once, with a single setting, whilst the track/sequence is being worked on. Very different.
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moki
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Posted : Nov 24, 2013 17:15
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okey, you are right, there is nothing to "discover" about it. not sure that this is possible in every software but for example in studio one it can be done with creating a buss for all instruments that have to be lowered in pitch and then throw a pitch shifter on each of them.
at the end of the day no matter if it is about changing the chamber pitch harmonics for an irrational purpose or not, it is a much different thing to shift pitch for every instrument in comparison to changing it at once for all of them as a master pitch.
by asking you if you remember this conversation, i wanted to drive your attention on exactly that fact - changing the master pitch vs changing the pitch/modulation/whatever for single paths. with the word discovered, i meant that you tried the feature with your software out.
well whatever.
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Suloo
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Posted : Nov 24, 2013 23:42
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live microtuning? xD it gets better and better^^
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moki
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Posted : Nov 24, 2013 23:58
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no, live modulation and "live" effects on microtuning basis. the microtuning itself can be done before the live. an instrument or a midi on microtuned scales.
but hey, may be someone just has a nice reccomendation link about what is a good live from the production forum? or a nice topic about studio one to move onto? would be nice. not really fair to explain what psykovky missed to do, because lots of other people miss it too anyway.
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