OzMike
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Posted : Nov 19, 2013 02:08
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On 2013-11-19 00:43, moki wrote:
i see right now that he is playing 6 hours live on 6.02.2014 in israel.
p.s. but where?!
oh psykovky in israel would be really nice.
Come to my hometown this Friday!
I"m not going. Sadly with an 18 month old kids staying up later than midnight just doesn't work Cuntus Maximus.
moki
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Posted : Nov 19, 2013 02:17
not sure if i would survive more than 30 minutes with psykovsky nowadays either. it is just so intensive...
i found it hard to survive his sets back in those days too if i look back, i even realize that he didn't really synchronize it with the crowd, he was just going on and on and on. it was just an accident that i did the same too (dancing on and on ) so i used to like it.
melbourne sounds cool
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 00:55
yeah totaly faking here aswell ...
see three chanels open ... i hear one. tweaks eq knobs on three channels even if all were on and its not the case thats not the way it should look or sound... in the laptop looks like a blank cubase project. its fake. i was dissapointed from him long ago. but .... The whole scene is fullllll of fakers . big names do absolutely nothing. or completly unproffesional work. toooooo many .so its like -
i'm dissapointed from alot of "artists". the list is too long. Dj skills and ableton skills . almost everybody do this kind of a fake thing so don't point out only psykovsky
still people listen to psy even though its all fake bollocks
and in music industry in general.
they call it showbiz http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers Wierd shit happens :)
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 01:04
moki
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 12:14
except for those who never played their music live -they never faked either
daark
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 12:48
90% never did ... in the whole psytrance. i mean every subgenere you can think of. i see more live from random dudes on youtube in their bedroom. (also funny fakers there)
common you have really few examples you can show me when somebody does more then just stand there and pretend to do something. psykovsky is just overacting.
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers Wierd shit happens :)
moki
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 13:28
if you remember the earlier discussions in isratrance, you probably remember that i always stated that a live trance experience is much more energetically subtil and has much more "etherical components" than clicking on the software or tweeking the knobs.
and yes, i do have examples of people who are very strong live. or used to be. this has little to do with channels and knobs.
but at the end of the day: artists are dissapointed with us too:). we have so much music on our hard drives that a whole life would not be enough to hear it (and we never gave them anything back, we rarely paid for cds, we only paid for lives). doing "live" and pretending to do something is for lots of them the only possible way to get some energy back, to fill the energy gap, to establish an equilibrium. so it is okey, i guess...
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 14:21
The promotion they get from free downloads worth more then a few bucks.
If they were not on the internet they would never have such a strong fan base to support those shows.
without going too far
at least this is not a complete fake :
don't like the furious ... leo is keeping it real
You don't need that much equipment to bring a nice set from ableton and you can go very very far. System should not crash if everything is legit and you know abit about computers or at least know its limits.
There is no excuse for such fakery. Hitting glitch on and off is no live for me aswell. It is possible to do even more. All i hear is lame excuses for people just being fake and overrated.
I don't think making him richer will make a difference for the performance he'll just keep the same way. I think some people don't understand how much they lose this way.
moki
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 14:43
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at least this is not a complete fake
you never know. or do you have a video that presents a prove? with the channels and all the rest?
moki
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 14:48
seriously, if kindzadza knows how to do live and psykovky not, then they would have come to talk about it till now while playing osom live , no?
moki
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 15:57
how "live" is this
i guess, only the fathers of sequencers and the software developers are able to just stand up and leave the stage and be applauded for it:P. they seem to be the only ones who know that there is no live in electronic music.
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 16:33
he just went up to show the magic of sequencing and it lives by itself... i do it a lot myself.(programming and it let live by itself)
but he can actualy change the sequences, mix them, modulate them, and play ... i mean touch them and change them but you see sometimes you trainwreck live as soon as you touch but i think people should accept it and give the respect as it was done on the fly.
so why not do this in trance ? bring the controllers you have ? make a sequenced beat and fly around on a 4/4 kick for an hour or two ? You have tons of vsti like thesys that can help you to keep the groove... maybe people have no real clue and just have a big name.
yes i see and hear kindzadza actualy do something on his set and he only has ableton and a midi controller in front of his face at least. more important i can tell the difference by listening. maybe can you prove me otherwise ?
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers Wierd shit happens :)
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 17:18
yes but where is the difference between djing your own tracks (change the sequences, modulate them, mix them, make them slower and faster, change the "breaking points" to fit into the mood of the crowd) with ableton on one side and "playing live" with ableton on the other side ?
i cannot prove you wrong because i have no idea what is the criteria to say that someone is playing live, as far as he/she is not using an instrument to improvise "live". as a matter of fact i think i saw artists playing live only very few times from very near behind their back. it was not a party environment, just a preparation for partys in the studio. not sure that i distinguished the difference. yes, it makes a difference by listening, because of modulating it, but at the end of the day, i guess it is always done with a non-live preparation of vstis and paths and sequencies.
whatever. i ve never seen a software that is good enough to be able to support 100 percent live. you? it is just to slow and the usability does not allow to rely on the software for a 100 percent live experience. it will crash if you try it. or not?
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Posted : Nov 20, 2013 17:39
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On 2013-11-20 17:18, moki wrote:
whatever. i ve never seen a software that is good enough to be able to support 100 percent live. you? it is just to slow and the usability does not allow to rely on the software for a 100 percent live experience. it will crash if you try it. or not?
