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*** POLICE BRUTALITY CAUSED DEATH ON MUSIC FESTIVAL CZECHTEK***

full_on
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 01:25
Letter to the Embassador of "Republica Tcheca" at Brazil ready to go!

If you're brazilian check here for info on where to send indignation and protest letters:
http://www.mzv.cz/wwwo/default.asp?ParentIDO=5090&ido=5092&amb=19&idj=39

Respect!           .
...Be gentle with the earth...
...Dance like nobody's watching...
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...I don't mind not going to Heaven, as long as they've got Coffee in Hell...
Danilovix
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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 01:29
look this video!!

http://g4.freetekno.cz/divx/czechtek2005_p1040648.avi

hermit


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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 01:33
ad police ID tags.

the truth is on both sides. some policemen were wering the but also some dont as you can see on these images..

http://www.techno.cz/party/report/2005/0730czechtek_wolf/img00153.jpg

http://www.techno.cz/party/report/2005/0730czechtek_wolf/img00349.jpg

and even if they were wearing then it doesnt matter that much as they were masking them with the shields or when asked they didnt want to tell you.. one guy has this particular story all documented on web but its only in cz ( http://www.home.karneval.cz/10270239/czechtek2005/fotky.html ). in short they were in car while suddenly 2 cans of tear gas were shot there (there is big risk that the car could start buring) so they left the car and wanted to throw it away. few cops approached and smacked them to legs back and head. later when asked for number the cop didnt want to tell it and covered it with sield.

and this could be only one of such incidents as all of them couldnt be documented...
hermit


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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 01:35
danilovix. yea. one of the major tv stations here were showing it on night news. brutal...
Kitnam
Mantik

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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 02:03
@detox
I am not comparing the policemen to nazis, I just give warnings and examples and this is what the history teach us.
and offcourse its not funny, if you think thats funny, go home and take a walk man and think deeply, because you realy missed a very important point: development.
another nice analogy: At UPS the chain-supply manager has the responsibilty that not one package is a minute too late, only. Why? Because a minute will become 5 minutes, and 5 minutes become 10 minutes. and at the end we have an hour too late and hour manager looses its job, thats why he as to be always in time.
the police is the same: the exicutive is not allowed to handle against human rights. not only for a second, not only a bit. and even not only one fistpunch into the body of a taked down man, 100%ly controlled by 4 policemen. (see the video)
thoose policemen just demasked their own unprofessionality. and i cant take them seriously as policemen. this "job"-doing men are not policemen of czech only. they are a part of the european union, which keeps and defends the human rights which means, that they have to defend the humanity, instead of hurting it. and it last, they are the executive in front of the judicative of the whole world. and its our right as a human beeing on this world to jugde them.
Psycosmo
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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 02:41
Hey D-Tox if u lived here in Amerika i bet you would be a Republican and vote for George Bush. I cant believe some of the stuff you say...
hermit


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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 05:14
Quote:

On 2005-08-01 22:20, HandA wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-08-01 21:55, Cyber Punk wrote:
"POLICE BRUTALITY CAUSED DEATH ON MUSIC FESTIVAL CZECHTEK" ??? (it is rethorical question)




Now again I urge people not to say that people were killed. As far I know from the newsreports nobody was killed.. There were 50 injured people incl. Policemen.



http://www.techno.cz/party/report/2005/0730czechtek_t-rex/czechtek05.b%20380.jpg

you see those legs under right front car wheel? they ran over that guy... i dunno if hes dead but there is certainly one dead guy from the side of czechtekk visitors. It was confrimed by media and politicians.
Technognome

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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 08:40
Quote:

On 2005-08-02 17:38, DETOX wrote:
Technognome i saw lot of pictures and the majority of police forces there have an ID Tag number somewhere in their uniforms either this means their helmet or their shirt or whatever.If you focus on one or two police officers that SEEM LIKE they have no ID then sorry but you are misleading the conversation here.

By the way these are ID Tags because i also asked my best friends father who is an active police chief in Rhodes one of the biggest Greek islands.

Now about prime ministers speech,well he is not far away from reality unfortunately...




Sorry Detox but asking a Greek police officer about Czech police helmet numbers doesn't really preove anything

Quote:

On 2005-08-03 01:29, Danilovix wrote:
look this video!!

http://g4.freetekno.cz/divx/czechtek2005_p1040648.avi



Yeah watch how the officer tries to stop themselves from being filmed - what have they got to hide?

Then they pull a gun on the poor guy for nothing!

Then instead of putting him in the van that they bring up, they decide to pin him on the ground. At this point we see an officer repeatedly punch the guy.

That would be why they were trying to stop the filming then.

They knew they were going to indulge in police brutality.

Another policeman with no ID http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10086/czechtek-2005-mlynec-31.jpg

PHLUR
Gopendragon
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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 10:05
anarchy from greece fucking the police...
kill the pigs...
we still let that fucking coops destroy our parties,why?????????           ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
traveller
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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 10:14
Quote:

On 2005-08-03 01:33, hermit wrote:
ad police ID tags.

the truth is on both sides. some policemen were wering the but also some dont as you can see on these images..

http://www.techno.cz/party/report/2005/0730czechtek_wolf/img00153.jpg

http://www.techno.cz/party/report/2005/0730czechtek_wolf/img00349.jpg




Proves nothing. They could all have the tags on the helmets as well..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
traveller
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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 10:17
Quote:

On 2005-08-03 05:14, hermit wrote:
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http://www.techno.cz/party/report/2005/0730czechtek_t-rex/czechtek05.b%20380.jpg

you see those legs under right front car wheel? they ran over that guy... i dunno if hes dead but there is certainly one dead guy from the side of czechtekk visitors. It was confrimed by media and politicians.



It doesn't look even remotely that he is under the car.. Also if you look at the people around.. they would sure as hell be shocked if the guy was under the car and surely some1 would be helping him too..           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
traveller
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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 10:18
Quote:

On 2005-08-03 08:40, Technognome wrote:

Another policeman with no ID http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10086/czechtek-2005-mlynec-31.jpg

PHLUR



It's probably on the helmet..
          "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
stompa


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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 10:27
IT DOES prove one thing: they are not doing their job correctly cause you should as a cop
have your tags both on the helmets and your uniform........
Technognome

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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 10:27
Quote:

On 2005-08-03 10:18, traveller wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-08-03 08:40, Technognome wrote:

Another policeman with no ID http://www.psypix.net/pix/albums/userpics/10086/czechtek-2005-mlynec-31.jpg

PHLUR



It's probably on the helmet..




But the helmet numbers are not the same as the police ID numbers.

I am quite sure you are correct - all the helmets seem to have numbers on - however is there a list of which officer has which helmet?

And the big question will that list ever be found?

My guess is if the list ever did exist it will have been conviniently 'lost' as so often happens on these occasions.

Traveller - Got any comments on the video link posted where the policeman repeatedly punches the partygoer pinned on the ground?

PHLUR
HandA
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Posted : Aug 3, 2005 10:33
Quote:

On 2005-08-03 05:14, hermit wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-08-01 22:20, HandA wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-08-01 21:55, Cyber Punk wrote:
"POLICE BRUTALITY CAUSED DEATH ON MUSIC FESTIVAL CZECHTEK" ??? (it is rethorical question)




Now again I urge people not to say that people were killed. As far I know from the newsreports nobody was killed.. There were 50 injured people incl. Policemen.



http://www.techno.cz/party/report/2005/0730czechtek_t-rex/czechtek05.b%20380.jpg

you see those legs under right front car wheel? they ran over that guy... i dunno if hes dead but there is certainly one dead guy from the side of czechtekk visitors. It was confrimed by media and politicians.



That picture is a random picture you just picked. You even dont know if it's a person that was ran over by a car or a person that just lie down next to the car due to an injury.

There's so many speculations here. Yet again yes it was not the best way the Police handeled the situation but can any of you sit here and say that our "brothers and sisters" did nothing to stir up the police? In such situation it's amazing to see how almost all here think they were oh so innocent. I seriously doubt they were all innocent and peaceful.

And Authorities have every right to stop a big event like this. Especially if it's full of drugs which I am pretty sure it was. I am not so naive to think that the Police stopped it because of the Music. They stop events like this because there's way too many druggies and their dealer friends. And guess what. Whatever we think and nomatter if we think it's unfair drugs are actually illegal and according to the law the Authorities have every right to stop big event that's flooded with drugs like our parties tend to be.

If someone died it's surely tragic and very wrong and the one responsible for his/her dead should be punished. Still I haven't seen one link to an article about that dead person. You got to back up your "evidence"

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