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No 2 synths were created equal

ansolas
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Posted : Nov 13, 2014 12:29
Here some interesting parts highlighted:



I bet that are the point why these Waveforms sound so organic compared to many VST Plugins which just produce a very static pure SAW, Square, Triangle or Sine.



For my eyes it is a DC offset since the whole Wave is pushed down, therefore the center is also moved and pushed out of the boundaries (orange lines)

Have you noticed that repetitive modulation which is going on ? This seams to make the sound more organic either. I observed them in many waveforms.

Very interesting .

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PoM
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Posted : Nov 13, 2014 12:34
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On 2014-11-13 12:15, ansolas wrote:
How do I download the Dropbox wav ? Its played back in my browser anytime ?




dunno it downalod here, can you right click and downalod? otherwise i will zip it
PoM
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Posted : Nov 13, 2014 12:37
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On 2014-11-13 12:29, ansolas wrote:
Here some interesting parts highlighted:






maybe a fitler that does this
ansolas
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Posted : Nov 13, 2014 12:41
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On 2014-11-13 12:34, PoM wrote:
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On 2014-11-13 12:15, ansolas wrote:
How do I download the Dropbox wav ? Its played back in my browser anytime ?




dunno it downalod here, can you right click and downalod? otherwise i will zip it



yeah please zip           http://facebook.com/ansolas
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 13, 2014 12:45
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5107801/G%20Xs.rar

i could be wrong but imo the begining of your waveform is like this just cause it start on a non zero crossing point , rest is maybe ringing artifacts dunno but wonder why the whole waveform is shifted down.. maybe you should try on a softsynth to reproduce similar begining of the wavform and see if it does the same
ansolas
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Posted : Nov 13, 2014 13:00
If it would be just due to the non zero-crossed beginning , the attack would not be emphasized and shifted ?
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Nov 13, 2014 20:26
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On 2014-11-13 12:17, ansolas wrote:
@frisbeehead
All I see is some delay before the waveform starts,
The delay could be a number of things, even "midi to audio" delay.

I sample any stuff with silence before it to be sure to get the full Attack.





Yeah, thought that was up for analysis to... XD
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Posted : Nov 14, 2014 11:44
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frisbeehead
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Posted : Nov 14, 2014 15:27
You know, that activity on the waveform just shows that there's more to it then a simple waveform. And whatever it is, if it's as fast as it shows, it's high pitched/high harmonics.

So chances are we're not just looking at some simple analogue-like waveform, but rather a more complex signal where more then one thing was combined to achieve it. Things like that can come about with hard sync or layering, for example. Or even some forms of saturation/distortion. Sinusoidal distortion can look sort like that sometimes, no?
ansolas
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Posted : Nov 14, 2014 16:55
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On 2014-11-14 15:27, frisbeehead wrote:
You know, that activity on the waveform just shows that there's more to it then a simple waveform. And whatever it is, if it's as fast as it shows, it's high pitched/high harmonics.

So chances are we're not just looking at some simple analogue-like waveform, but rather a more complex signal where more then one thing was combined to achieve it. Things like that can come about with hard sync or layering, for example. Or even some forms of saturation/distortion. Sinusoidal distortion can look sort like that sometimes, no?



These interesting spots could also be result of a analog circuit.

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