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New Generation Full-on [is it ?]

Samsara


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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:29
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On 2003-11-17 18:57, nectarios wrote:
This thread is pure fun! Thanks, my day at work flew by!

Peace out.



Isn't it great, and they even pay you for it

Monarch_butterfly


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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:39
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On 2003-11-17 18:56, Anakoluth wrote:
monarch butterfly: sorry but i dont belong to the group of people that are always crying.
and yes, i still think it's a joke and a damn good one. u know what is REAL PSYTRANCE? ever heard of HALLUCINOGEN, TANDU, COSMOSIS? now this is music!



Well m8
"ever heard of HALLUCINOGEN, TANDU, COSMOSIS? now this is music!"

HALLUCINOGEN
COSMOSIS

I have original copies of all their albums.
As I said, I buy only good music my freind!

and about full on ---> FU*K FULL ON!
I listen to psytrance! Good Psytrance

Listen to me,
Lets just enjoy the music
Don't judge it to much
When it is good, it is good and you feel it!
When it is bad you know it is bad, sometimes It is about taste sometimes it is so bad that it is hard to believe someone actually like it.
just enjoy the music, and stop fucking cry all the time! hehe


psytrance is live and kicking!

The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:40
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On 2003-11-17 18:33, traveller wrote:
ah i've become the great traveller with superior taste and subjective opinions. let's see. i take it that by saying that my opinions are subjective you mean that my opinions are work of my mind rather than the external world? isn't that the way it's supposed to be? by saying that my taste is superior i take it that you mean my taste is of great value or excellence in other words extraordinary. how nice of you to say such things even though the subjective thingy is a fact when it comes to every single living person on this planet. oh wait, actually it's not. most people do form their opinion based on how others feel. i don't, and i'm proud of that. that's what being human is all about. individualism baby..

if one likes a band that represents a certain genre it's pretty likely that one would also find other groups from that genre to enjoy, or atleast very unlikely that one would despise all the rest of the bands from that genre, no?

now you put words in my mouth. i think all the full on is the same thing? since when? also you starting to use insults is pretty much a sign that you are starting to loose your point and rather just take this as a personal offence..




sorry traveller
I read your post thoroughly, and you know what even though I unlike you have hours and hours of homework, and I don’t have time to comment every single fucking one of your posts your not getting off that easy…

I know your type of guy (even with out ever having met you, or spoken to you in person, and I know your going to bitch about this, but I don’t give a flying fuck to be honest). You’re that type of person that continues relentlessly until the obliteration of the entire point of our conversion, simply to be right. While doing so you contradict your self several times, first by saying that you haven’t said anything dreadful about full-on, and then when you finally comprehend that battle is all ready lost, you acknowledge it, as if it had been your opinion from start to finish.


And you know what don’t twist my words; I said your opinion is subjective as ALL opinions are subjective, due the fact that they represent YOUR own opinion, which inevitably is SUBJECTIVE.
Thus your logic can not be made out as law.

The forum guidelines clearly state it is not prohibited to act with disrespect, by they full on, progressive or what ever fans. But you have taken it a step further, by calling full on, fool on, and so much more, which I don’t have time to write down. If this is not disrespect I do not know what disrespect is.

If you don’t like something SHUT THE FUCK UP.

And another thing if you don’t understand sarcasm, that is definitely not my problem, nor will I explain it to you.
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Monarch_butterfly


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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:43

I see red faces
nobody_3
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:46
Quote:

On 2003-11-17 19:40, The Green Channel wrote:
Quote:

On 2003-11-17 18:33, traveller wrote:
ah i've become the great traveller with superior taste and subjective opinions. let's see. i take it that by saying that my opinions are subjective you mean that my opinions are work of my mind rather than the external world? isn't that the way it's supposed to be? by saying that my taste is superior i take it that you mean my taste is of great value or excellence in other words extraordinary. how nice of you to say such things even though the subjective thingy is a fact when it comes to every single living person on this planet. oh wait, actually it's not. most people do form their opinion based on how others feel. i don't, and i'm proud of that. that's what being human is all about. individualism baby..

if one likes a band that represents a certain genre it's pretty likely that one would also find other groups from that genre to enjoy, or atleast very unlikely that one would despise all the rest of the bands from that genre, no?

now you put words in my mouth. i think all the full on is the same thing? since when? also you starting to use insults is pretty much a sign that you are starting to loose your point and rather just take this as a personal offence..




sorry traveller
I read your post thoroughly, and you know what even though I unlike you have hours and hours of homework, and I don’t have time to comment every single fucking one of your posts your not getting off that easy…

I know your type of guy (even with out ever having met you, or spoken to you in person, and I know your going to bitch about this, but I don’t give a flying fuck to be honest). You’re that type of person that continues relentlessly until the obliteration of the entire point of our conversion, simply to be right. While doing so you contradict your self several times, first by saying that you haven’t said anything dreadful about full-on, and then when you finally comprehend that battle is all ready lost, you acknowledge it, as if it had been your opinion from start to finish.


And you know what don’t twist my words; I said your opinion is subjective as ALL opinions are subjective, due the fact that they represent YOUR own opinion, which inevitably is SUBJECTIVE.
Thus your logic can not be made out as law.

The forum guidelines clearly state it is not prohibited to act with disrespect, by they full on, progressive or what ever fans. But you have taken it a step further, by calling full on, fool on, and so much more, which I don’t have time to write down. If this is not disrespect I do not know what disrespect is.

If you don’t like something SHUT THE FUCK UP.

And another thing if you don’t understand sarcasm, that is definitely not my problem, nor will I explain it to you.





I don't think you're much better here mate
The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 20:00
I’m sorry I never learned when to shut up. I’m to fucking stubborn.           "Love is a way of life"

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TiMMY
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 20:13
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On 2003-11-17 19:10, Anakoluth wrote:
Timmy: if full on is when u use all possibilities to entertain the listener what is music that doesnt use all possibilities? "minimal (what a "&%ç word!!)"? i dont think so.....
what about:
semi fullon
quarter fullon
minimal maximal




You forgot Nearly half as full full on and Definatly more than 7/8 full-full on

I didn't mean all possibilities. What I meant was rather "all the available power"
FULL on means that the tracks is FULL and there is nearly no space to think between the notes (like you said).

BTW, Minimal (and yes, it's minimal, because Minimalism is the art of using the smallest amount of elements to make the most meaningful creation) is one of my favorite generes. Not only trance but also artists like Plastikman (techno), Philip Glass and Terry Riley (the last two are vertrans of modern-day minimalism who started during the 70s).
duodenumz
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 21:35
IM have made full-on, but their albums are not IMO. the closest they came was stuff like "Acid Killer", "Psycho" live mix, and "Virtual Voyage", which are still more complicated than most accepted full-on tracks.

and even if you do classify IM as full-on, they are clearly head and shoulders above just about any other trance act where writing music is concerned. if you love their music, who cares what the label is?
Te_nTe
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 21:40
this topic made me sick.
just grow up guys - you acting like a cat and mouse.
also using really awful words like fuck and shut up.
what for the forum is?????
surely not for this.

keep up all of you.
Peace.


karnaf
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 21:56
The Green Channel and traveller - how about going to therapy?

Please no more vicious, obnoxious, offtopic replies, huh?

back to the subject ppl. nothing to see here.
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Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 23:53
timmy: plastikman owns but that knows every little kindergarten-kid i understand you fully and i share your opinion.
my point in the post actually was, that in latest times for most people there are three styles: fullon, progressive (which evolved into a term for groovy, feelful music with housy touches (son kite, ticon, etnoscope, u know who they are), altho it isnt ONLY that)) and minimal. i think this is sad, well, not sad but not-so-good. i have seen here in the forum labelling trax like suncontrolspecies' "proxima 5598", sensient's "off world" (both highly psychedelic, melodic tunes) as minimal, heck, even the latest zerotonine ep gets called minimal in this forum and in other places too. fact is, you can't really call it minimal. its maybe not-as-full-as-fullon-but-also-not-progressive-nor-minimal.
and because this word is way too long and dumb i just call it fucking good music.
heck i so miss the times when i could say "this is psytrance" about a krumelur track for instance and everybody agreed coz the people were concentrating on the feeling the music provides and not on the amount of layers, percussions, synths, structure, amount of bassnotes per bar, amount of hair on the balls etc.
let's make music guys ! lets mix so-called-styles !

damn i got fucking offtopic here
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 23:55
I remember when it was all so simple. There was only one thing, and that was Psy/Goa Trance

Then minimal trance apeared about three years ago and everyone was like..."what da hell is this?is not so fast and full of stuff...but i gues its still trance isn't it?"

From then on everyone started categorizing trance!minimal, full on, whatever....every day someone comes up with a new name for a new category to get us more confused, lol

To the psy lovers out there, I think we all know what trance is and we need only 2 minutes to realize if a track is psy or not.

For me there are two categories of trance:
Good Trance and shitty trance...all the other names don't really bother me...what matters is if it sounds good and puts me into trance!

There are some artists that I respect a lot, like Logic Bomb, because they have the ability to make tracks that if you listen at home they can be a really chilled psy experience and then in the dancefloor they just take you by storm!



Anak
Anakoluth

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Posted : Nov 18, 2003 00:00
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On 2003-11-17 23:55, FluoSamsara wrote:


For me there are two categories of trance:
Good Trance and shitty trance...all the other names don't really bother me...what matters is if it sounds good and puts me into trance!




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