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New Generation Full-on [is it ?]
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 18:02
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actually the term "fool on" does describe the way i feel about most full on in general and i kinda like using it. sure it's in a way very disrespecting to full on producers but they should welcome the criticism anyways. i'm not disrespecting their talent, only the way they use it. take shulman as an example, i sure as hell didn't think much of his mental orange project, but on the other hand the shulman project is outstanding. that's ofcourse only my opinion..
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 18:10
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Traveller you are seriously funny:
You introduced the term” intelligent”, I didn’t. Again for the 2 time by stating the following : “such thing as intelligent full on exists.. well this is it people!”
I’m very sorry if my answer wasn’t elaborated or sufficient enough to your high standards:
I’ll try again:
All what I wrote before + because you like some full on It doesn’t mean that you like all full on, YOU believe that all full on is the same thing NOT me, don’t think that I THINK like you.
I genuinely love some full on bands others I hate. This is possible in my world maybe not in yours. So it is possible for you to like IM and not other full on bands as an example.
I hope the great traveller finds this answer satisfactory.
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 18:33
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ah i've become the great traveller with superior taste and subjective opinions. let's see. i take it that by saying that my opinions are subjective you mean that my opinions are work of my mind rather than the external world? isn't that the way it's supposed to be? by saying that my taste is superior i take it that you mean my taste is of great value or excellence in other words extraordinary. how nice of you to say such things even though the subjective thingy is a fact when it comes to every single living person on this planet. oh wait, actually it's not. most people do form their opinion based on how others feel. i don't, and i'm proud of that. that's what being human is all about. individualism baby..
if one likes a band that represents a certain genre it's pretty likely that one would also find other groups from that genre to enjoy, or atleast very unlikely that one would despise all the rest of the bands from that genre, no?
now you put words in my mouth. i think all the full on is the same thing? since when? also you starting to use insults is pretty much a sign that you are starting to loose your point and rather just take this as a personal offence..
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 18:42
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Jda jda jda, I’ll let you be right, and I’ll get some peace and quiet.
Hay et even rimes.
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 18:54
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It's ok my child, I hold no grudge towards you. Only one more thing to correct, you are not letting me be right, I just simply am right..
peace & love & all that other crap
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Anak
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 18:56
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monarch butterfly: sorry but i dont belong to the group of people that are always crying.
and yes, i still think it's a joke and a damn good one. u know what is REAL PSYTRANCE? ever heard of HALLUCINOGEN, TANDU, COSMOSIS? now this is music!
hiphop/pop is bad music? well, perhaps for u (i'm not into it also), but there are millions of ppl out there that love this music as much as we love psytrance, and this deserves its respect, wether you like it or not.
to the topic: fullon changed in some way and it looks like a good way. it got more psychedelic, melodic and wicked (like Scorb for example, whichs album is a DIAMOND). but overall, its just not my music. i dont like these kind of melodic, hectic baselines. the music i enjoy to listen and (try to  ) produce is what most people consider as minimal, but actually it is very much NOT minimal. so when people say how much that minimal sucks and build their opinions with tracks that are not minimal but gets labelled as it makes me laugh very hard. i still tend to call the music i fucking enjoy psytrance, tho it got "minimal bassline" and no highly loaded ingredients. i just like music that leaves some space to think pretty much more than music that stuffs everything in my head.
to traveller: yepp, there's a huge difference between hear and listen. and there is also one between speaking and saying.......
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TiMMY
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 18:57
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Some insight:
What is full on actually?
IMO full on is exactly what it's called - FULL ON. It means that the artist uses "everything he's got" to entertain the listener.
So, by that definition Infected definatly qualify as full on.
But who gives a shit about genres anyway?  |
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nobody_3
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:01
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All I see here is a bunch of people trying to convince eachother that their taste is the right one.
Haven't you learned by now that taste is individual and that what you might consider full-on will be considered something else by someone else?
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:02
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Oh master traveller how I could ever have doubted you, an enigma it will remain.
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:06
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On 2003-11-17 19:01, Elysium Project wrote:
All I see here is a bunch of people trying to convince eachother that their taste is the right one.
Haven't you learned by now that taste is individual and that what you might consider full-on will be considered something else by someone else?
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Thank you
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Anak
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:10
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did i try to convince? wasn't my intention....sorry if someone thought i was and feels bad now.
Timmy: if full on is when u use all possibilities to entertain the listener what is music that doesnt use all possibilities? "minimal (what a "&%ç word!!)"? i dont think so.....
what about:
semi fullon
quarter fullon
minimal maximal
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Sputer
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:10
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no nooooooo keep going.... at least there is interesting theard now
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:20
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On 2003-11-17 19:01, Elysium Project wrote:
All I see here is a bunch of people trying to convince eachother that their taste is the right one.
Haven't you learned by now that taste is individual and that what you might consider full-on will be considered something else by someone else?
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That's ofcourse a fact. But labeling music has nothing to do with taste. At least at a point we were basicly arguing on whether IM is full on or not. Now that's definetly something one can argue about. Atfirst there should ofcourse be some rules of what makes a track full on. In my opinion it's the elements that can be found in most if not all gms, skazi, astrix, every single spun release, etc tracks. In my opinion those elements can not be found from most if any IM tunes. So what are the elements? One is a repeative 4 note bassline. Another is pretty high, usually greater than 150bpm. There's usually only one melody that gets repeated 2 to 4 times. There's also usually a short chilled part which a sample ends/starts.. so yeah it's not much of a definition but that's full on to me..
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traveller
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Posted : Nov 17, 2003 19:24
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Elysium I now on consider your music full on 
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