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PoM
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Jul 12, 2013 03:00
prodcution of today have less dynamic.. so we can t say it s really better...than old stuff, it s different for me.

stuff of today on well pressed vinyle i think would sound dope cause of the limited loudness and vinyl sound

when cd started to grow i didn t like their sound compared to a well pressed vinyle..it s different sound ..and it s probably a part of what i miss in the sound of newer goa ..
Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod

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Posted : Jul 12, 2013 17:37
Quote:

On 2013-07-12 00:10, dick hardman wrote:
Back then, did you ever complain (for lack of a better word, sorry) that you weren't able to create a certain sound that you heard in your head due to hardware limitations?



Opinions ahead

I think every track we wrote with our analog setup involved some sort of major compromise with regards to the sounds we could make, given the very limited capabilities of our equipment and the lack of any multitrack recording facilities. This forced us to come up with creative ways round those limitations: with a restricted sound palette, it's the compositional aspects that have to take up the slack to create something that retains the listeners' interest.

Like many other artists I'm sure, I would love to have the best of both worlds; a bunch of analog synths, a well-specced analog mixer, some high quality hardware FX units and a kick-ass DAW, but I agree with they guy who said that not having them all isn't itself an excuse for not being able to write creatively. I haven't spoken to Joti for a while but it wouldn't surprise me if he, like others I have spoken to and worked with, have seen the resurgence in popularity of music from the Goa days as an opportunity to recapture and capitalise on some of their past glories. For obvious reasons you'd be unlikely to get them to be so candid about it, and I'm sure its only one of a number of reasons they have for doing what they do, but that's what I've seen. One old-timer producer I know told me he'd started getting bookings again for his old stuff after 10+ years out of the scene entirely, so would I like to write a track with him for his comeback album. He runs an analog/tape/valve recording studio now, but writes his trance on Reaper on his laptop. There will be some 1/4" involved when I master the album though

In reply to Mike: why do those labels sell so well? Why am I mastering so much oldschool? Same question: why is Leftfield back on tour? These things come in cycles, and quality will always stand out. The old style of writing was out of fashion for a long time and now the best of it is back, and it's only natural for those who had a hand in its origination to want a slice of the new pie. As far as Mind Rewind I/II etc goes, my intention is/was to enable these classic tracks to be played next to modern productions without sounding weak on the dancefloor; after all they were not written to be sat down to, and the creativity embodied in them deserves to be expressed in the highest-quality sound of which the lucky mastering engineer is capable. However, and with the greatest respect to Max and the crew, I now know that tracks like Etnica's 'Intense Visitation' did not become (quite rightly) legendary due to the sound quality of the original production!

I no-one was offended by my words, this can be an emotive and touchy area for some.
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dick hardman
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Posted : Jul 12, 2013 20:34
Totally grateful for your words Colin! It gives me a lot of insight about it all, and helps me appreciate music (and the vessels it flows through ) all the more. Since I love music above all this is very important to me

I was listening to CPE Bach (one of JS Bach's sone) on the drive to work this morning and he once went out and said music must be created from the soul. This is inline with what I always believed and what I recognized to be 'the thing' about artists that I love and trust. And that there must be a lot of great music that could have been created from an inspired soul that wasn't, due to some technical limitation or even playing ability or patience sitting in front of a computer for all hours to learn the tool.

When you begin a paragraph above with "ike many other artists I'm sure, I would love to have the best of both worlds;..." I thought you were going to list 'spiritual inspiration' haha
That's another interesting thing related to this, the listeners and artists who tag 'spiritual' to the music, while some listeners and artists call that nonsense and cite the technical artifacts the music's comprised of. So we both love it, from our own way. That's an aspect of universal music.
OzMike
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Posted : Jul 12, 2013 23:12
Thanks for your words Colin. Yes it can be emotional to talk about something so loved. I'm sorry as well for an offense caused.

Yes I do understand that all in all there's an opportunity to cash in on past glories & I see nothin wrong with this. I paid $80 last week to see my fav band play an album from '95 in its entirety. I'd happily pay around $20-30 for some old classics if they were reissued with proper mastering. I still hope that GNOTR & Technossomy albums can be convinced to do this.

I just find myself getting more inspiration from listening to my old Goa now-a-days for production than from modern EDM of any kind. I guess now it's more affordable to buy gear, I mean I'm building now 12u eurorack modular system that probably was out of nearly everyone's reach in the 90's price wise.

Great times now both for releases of old Goa/Psy & for start up musicians as well.

I'm selling a lot of my Suntrip on ebay currently. It just doesn't grab me a lot of the time.           Revisiting the past.
PoM
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Posted : Jul 13, 2013 13:30
the other day i lisented some of your tunes colin from around 98/99 and the production blew me away.. ! great stuff
Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod

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Posted : Jul 13, 2013 15:43
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On 2013-07-13 13:30, PoM wrote:
the other day i lisented some of your tunes colin from around 98/99 and the production blew me away.. ! great stuff


Personally I've always been more a fan of the writing of those tracks rather than the production (eg until 99 I could not add separate EQ to any of the samples we used, including the kick and bass), but it's true that our sound took a big leap forward when I got some proper monitors after our first album. Thanks though, that means a lot!           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod

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Posted : Jul 13, 2013 15:47
You might be glad to hear I've remastered them all recently and they're sounding even better...           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
OOOD 5th album 'You Think You Are' - www.is.gd/tobuyoood :: www.OOOD.net
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Contact for bookings/mastering - colin@oood.net
Nectarios
Martian Arts

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Posted : Jul 13, 2013 17:14
Goa will make a come back.
The signs are everywhere.
Music keeps recycling, it is evident in all genres really.

Was about time as well.           
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PoM
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Posted : Jul 13, 2013 23:04
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On 2013-07-13 15:47, Colin OOOD wrote:
You might be glad to hear I've remastered them all recently and they're sounding even better...



nice are you going to re release these?
OzMike
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Posted : Jul 14, 2013 01:50
Limited edition cd run please Colin!! I'll pay good money for your classic gems remastered           Revisiting the past.
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Aug 11, 2013 21:05






what a tune!
TimeTraveller
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Posted : Aug 12, 2013 17:51
tbh lots of goa tunes from the past was not that great as some goa tunes from now. Don't know if it's because of better sound quality. I know lots of tunes that are really weak in terms of composition.
It is not truth that all from the past was a blast & that the very few guys that produce real goa now are copycats etc, they are just way to0 underestimated - at least in contrast to hte most same sounding prog psy dark hype of the last hmm 10 years ^^
the new people that listen to 'psytrance' or like 'Goa parties' , they dont know the source of it and they want something else. Something they call psychedelic eventhough it has really less with psychedelic music in common.


Aegolius


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Posted : Aug 12, 2013 19:24
Its not everything about production...we get production lost the magic(just my opininion)
Kind regards
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Aug 12, 2013 22:48
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On 2013-07-13 17:14, Nectarios wrote:
Goa will make a come back.
The signs are everywhere.
Music keeps recycling, it is evident in all genres really.

Was about time as well.




It's already back in full force. Never been more busy with international gigs as now           www.beatagency.dk
OzMike
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Posted : Aug 13, 2013 00:34
Very true Beat Agency. I'm glad things have finally worked ou for you. I still dream of hearing Trancelestial Psychobabas live in Australia one day, and despite our differences over the last decade or so maybe have a beer or ten.           Revisiting the past.
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