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P_Mac
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  1484
Posted : May 19, 2003 13:41
Quote:

On 2003-05-19 12:39, tom anteater wrote:
hmmm, thats not quite what happens when things are encoded as an mp3. mp3 is a compression standard that strips away frequencies that the ear "cannot hear" so as to make the file size smaller. the innovative thing about mp3 was that the compression curve (how much of each freq. is removed) is set by looking at scientific studies of what the human ear can and cannot hear.. ie it is tweaked to sound as good as possible for the amount of compression of file size... however there is data being lost here, whether you like it or not....




it also cuts the frequencies audible to the human ear . . especially those below 60 hz . .           
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traveller
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : May 19, 2003 14:01
hmmm...

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,806413,00.asp

http://www.geocities.com/altbinariessoundsmusicclassical/mp3test.html

here's a quota from the second link.. "It seemed to me almost as if some of the 256 kbps samples sounded somewhat rounder and more pleasing than the originals from the CD. One cannot let oneself be distracted by those characteristics’, he said. And, in fact, people often incorrectly chose the 256 kbps sample as the original CD version."

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Bozzz
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  26
Posts :  308
Posted : May 19, 2003 16:02
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On 2003-05-16 17:32, amazon wrote:
come on bozz...u know that we have been selling music in your city of porto, at low rates and you also know that its impossible to keep this kind of bizz with attituded like yours....as a label, and a music shop i can tell you that not so many people in portugal actually invest into their sound at all...
they dont support the local artists, they dont support the local labels....like traveller suggested, if one tries to support the locals more, surely they d be awarded...
with cd prices at 14 eur for the last 6 months, i think we beat every distributer here in portugal...it was a concerted effort on behalf of good mood and ketuh to deliver music at cheap prices to portguese public and see if they really give a shit about the music like they say....
the response was poor....




amazon like i said i buy cd's! But off course i can't buy unreleased stuff... I can't buy everything i like, i'm sorry but that's the truth! And I do support portuguese productions, i have ketuh both cd's I'm seeing, in the trade, people only care about giving examples... Is it needed? Everyone knows that Mp3 trade is illegal and wrong and the qualitty is low
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amazon
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posts :  417
Posted : May 19, 2003 23:39
thanks bozz....keep it up..
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El Cid


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Posts :  19
Posted : May 20, 2003 00:01
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On 2003-05-18 23:00, Tranceform wrote:

It's nice if _you_ buy more music nowadays, but the sad fact is that sales are down drastically which means that a lot of people buy less music.



---Well, without the internet, I wouldn't have known what psy-trance is, and I wouldn't have bought any albums from the small and nice labels that the underground artists use... Instead I would have bought more known music from the biggest companies... So called "mainstream" music!

Quote:
And if you don't like the material, do you immediately delete it and not spread it (like the most people do who use p2p for "evaluation purposes")?



--- Well, in most cases I don't delete the music I don't like. It'll either "dust away" on a CD in the bottom of a drawer, or it will be forgotten on one of my harddrives. Some artists only manage to make one good track, and the rest of the album is like shit, I want more than one track to listen to when I buy an album, so why don't "try before you buy"?

Quote:
Where can I familiarize myself with these studies?



--- http://www.itavisen.no/art/1298681.html
It's an article in Norwegian, but the graph we see, says this: Frequent users of P2P programs do:

Buy less music than before: 15%
Buy about the same amount of music: 51%
Buy more music than before: 34%

Here's another article who also concludes with: That the more you download, the more music you'll buy! (Also in Norwegian) (Can translate it if people want me to... ;D )

http://www.nrk.no/magasin/musikk/nyhende/bransje/2616152.html

Quote:
That 30 euro is just a pitiful lie in order to try to justify theft. Therefore it shall be left unnoticed.



--- Agreed... But he has not commented it yet... Strange isn't it? =)

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hafon

Started Topics :  3
Posts :  55
Posted : May 20, 2003 00:40
where i live i pay 12€ for punk cd's,some punk compils cost 5€(punk o rama) and reprinted nirvana cd's 8-12€, and psy cost 18€. can someone explain this?

PLUR (something this forum and scene lacks of)
Namhaj


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  22
Posted : May 20, 2003 02:45
Quote:
where did that 50mb go?
it's all about math my friend..

see

1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5

or

1 x 5 = 5


takes less space doesn't it?



ROFLMAO

http://www.mp3-converter.com/mp3codec/breakitdown.htm

Educate yourself... Maybe i have special ears, but even at 256kbps the high frequencies sound like they are under water, and the track doesnt have the depth and space it once had, it sounds flat....

Quote:
amazon like i said i buy cd's! But off course i can't buy unreleased stuff... I can't buy everything i like, i'm sorry but that's the truth! And I do support portuguese productions, i have ketuh both cd's I'm seeing, in the trade, people only care about giving examples... Is it needed? Everyone knows that Mp3 trade is illegal and wrong and the qualitty is low



You know why you cant buy unreleased, and never will be able to? cos its unreleased.... what is the attraction with "unreleased" i dont get it, you said your not a DJ so your concerns arent getting more sex are they?? Usually unreleased means its unreleased cos no label wants to release it... someone enlighten me please......           http://www.nervine-records.com
Pak-Man
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  15
Posts :  78
Posted : May 20, 2003 02:55
Namhaj man, some people hear but don't listen I think the whole "I've got unrealeased shit" is just some sort of stupid ego trip, PEOPLE THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH REALEASED MUSIC FOR US 2 LISTEN 2 AND ENJOY TILL THE DAY WE DIE! What is the fasination with unrealeased tracks maybe its because were not meant 2 have it!           Progressive, Full-on? Its all good <;}
Wako Jako
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  26
Posts :  1183
Posted : May 20, 2003 08:06
ego trip.
you said it.
i have unreleased !
im a big man !
stupid fuckers !

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