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Ultra_FoX
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Posted : May 16, 2003 17:19
Ahhhhhh! Good point pure_mdma....           Its the vibe that matters.
Surrender
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : May 16, 2003 17:21
Ultra, you should open a new thread with that question.           "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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amazon
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Posted : May 16, 2003 17:32
come on bozz...u know that we have been selling music in your city of porto, at low rates and you also know that its impossible to keep this kind of bizz with attituded like yours....as a label, and a music shop i can tell you that not so many people in portugal actually invest into their sound at all...
they dont support the local artists, they dont support the local labels....like traveller suggested, if one tries to support the locals more, surely they d be awarded...
with cd prices at 14 eur for the last 6 months, i think we beat every distributer here in portugal...it was a concerted effort on behalf of good mood and ketuh to deliver music at cheap prices to portguese public and see if they really give a shit about the music like they say....
the response was poor....           BOOM 2006 www.boomfestival.org
"the journey is the reward"
traveller
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Posted : May 16, 2003 18:36
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On 2003-05-16 02:22, A.Rosengren wrote:
i have seen u in every little thread all over this forum and all u have to say is how good twisteds stuff is and how bad the rest is...

show some god damn respect u piece of ........

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respect? you seem to have no respect what so ever when it comes to my taste. funny that you say that i'm the big poster here. compare our amount of posted messages. well anyways i honestly couldn't care less what you think of me or any other for you sure seem like self centered far right person. sure you have never done anything wrong. i know, it doesn't matter what you've done. it doesn't justify me ie dowloading anything. but you know what. i do not care. i keep on downloading that unreleased stuff. it's not copyrighted music. who's fault is it that it's out there in the net in the first place? do the artists pay to hollywood for the samples they use? i doubt it. i bet quite a few artists out there don't even pay money for the software they use. and you know what. i keep on critisising the music i don't like for the simple reason that I DON'T LIKE IT! get a life... stop whining...           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
A.Rosengren
Solid Snake

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Posted : May 16, 2003 19:12
what a cats pyjamas

nobody_3
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Posted : May 16, 2003 19:25
Quote:

On 2003-05-16 18:36, traveller wrote:



but you know what. i do not care. i keep on downloading that unreleased stuff. it's not copyrighted music.
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I am sorry to inform you that most tracks indeed are copyrighted. Just because it's not yet released have nothing to do with copyright... An example....Every track that I make is instantly registrated at my publishing company Warner/Chappell and thereafter at NCB (Nordic Copyright Bureau). Many times months Before it's released !!!!!!

Please have your facts straight

As for your downlaoding I am not going to comemnt it.. You know what my opinion is.
hafon

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Posted : May 17, 2003 00:18
so it's ok for artists to steal from hollywood but not traders to steal from artists?
A.Rosengren
Solid Snake

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Posted : May 17, 2003 01:00
wow great mdma great... maybe u should knock the mdma off


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Sputer
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : May 17, 2003 01:21
U dont tired to discuss about this subject ? really.

- ppl will always download.

- Artists will always be naive and send thier music to ppl.           ..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
Follow your heart, not the people around you"
...
Gilad Refael
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : May 17, 2003 02:15
they're not naive, they must promote their music and send demo's to reviewers and dj's.           REHAB is for quitters
Sputer
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : May 17, 2003 02:28
nah.. they just need to send to the label that released it and some dj-friends. Not to anyone that request.           ..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
Follow your heart, not the people around you"
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Namhaj


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Posted : May 17, 2003 02:46
Ok let me try and explain some things people have brought up in this thread from my experiences and knowledge...

MP3 trading... Well this is good and bad in my opinion. Bad being people who just download and never buy anything, just cos they can get it for free, no other reason, just cos they are scabs. Good are the people who download and buy what they like because they either want the original CD or they want to support the artist or label. These people may download a lot, but who really cares if they download your music and never would of bought it anyway? Your not losing anything there.

Hollywood samples etc... well lifting a 2- 10 second sample from a 1.5 hour or so long movie really doesnt hurt Hollywood, so any argument comparing this to taking a full song from an artist doesnt really float. Its just another pathetic excuse for being a taker. In fact this may help sales of the movie, people at parties may hear the sample in their favourite tracks and may want to go see the movie again... or even buy it... Hollywoods revenue would make the whole global trance scene's look like pocket change.

Unreleased tracks making it into the file sharing systems... well yes this is because the artists give out their music, usually to DJ's or labels that say they are interested to release their music or know someone who does. This usually is a lie, and these DJ's will go and trade it straight away and after that pretty much any label wont want to touch it. And with the labels, i dont know this but i can see that if a label is not interested in releasing a demo track sent to them, they probably think "who cares i dont want to release it so ill go trade it for something i like". So yes, it kind of is the artists fault, but they are just trying to get their music released. And just because this is a sad reality, doesnt give people and excuse to blame artists for them downloading the artists track, what a load bullshit hah!

Now the whole "unreleased killllleeeerrrrs" bullshit is whats really amplifying this crap, heh Greg on earth pretty much summed it up. So everyone wants unreleased, just because its unreleased, not cos they are great tracks, its just cos it has the label "unreleased".. rather pathetic logic if you ask me. Its the whole ego thing, and i believe these traders suffer from this illness, they just flash their track lists to each other and think to themselves "geee how cool am i, i have 500 unreleased tracks, i never listen to them cos im too busy downloading, but fuck im cool!!"

Lets discuss and not just lash out at people for having different ideas, education is the only real option because ultimately it comes down to the audience, if they dont buy, the music will slowly fade away... the power is in the peoples hands.           http://www.nervine-records.com
Sputer
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : May 17, 2003 02:59
Quote:

On 2003-05-17 02:46, Namhaj wrote:


Hollywood samples etc... ....so any argument comparing this to taking a full song from an artist doesnt really float. Its just another pathetic excuse for being a taker.




and compare download song to steal car ?           ..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
Follow your heart, not the people around you"
...
Namhaj


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Posts :  22
Posted : May 17, 2003 03:06
oh and i forogot copyright... as soon as a track is mixed down to a file, burnt to a cd, pressed on vinyl, taped to a cassette, or copied to any kind of media, it is copyrighted. So just cos its and "unreleased kiiiiillllleeeeeerrrrrr" doesnt mean its not copyrighted.           http://www.nervine-records.com
Namhaj


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Posts :  22
Posted : May 17, 2003 03:07
i never mentioned cars once.... next please.           http://www.nervine-records.com
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