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COPYING KILLS OUR MUSIC
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traveller
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Posted : Oct 18, 2002 17:22
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After 5.1 is standard people just change mp3 into AC3
  "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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LostBrainCell
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Posted : Oct 18, 2002 18:14
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Sound Surgeon:
The most important is that you take care of yourself in the Army.
I talked with god and it is ok for the fucked up soldiers to listen to music (from any kind of source) as much as they want so don't have bad feelings.
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nirvana
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Posted : Oct 18, 2002 20:12
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Yes, Sound Surgeon there are probably more important issues coming at you in the army, especially if you have to go to war.
God bless you ( and those you must confront)
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Pavel
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Posted : Oct 18, 2002 22:37
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He he, i remember when i was in army, i spent half of my army salary (100$) on CD's.
Good times...
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KosMos
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Posted : Oct 19, 2002 01:19
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Adapt or die...that digital revolution is worth shit if 'zeros and ones' (intangibles) still must be bought in an offline store or shipped per UPS.
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I uterly, totally, UnHeSitAtiONaLLy agree !!!
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Oct 21, 2002 16:27
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mmm... ok guys i wasn't following this discussion (it kinda tired me after we went past 10 pages) but i wanted to add that in the interview Astral gave to 7 Nights (Shiva Leylot) newspaper they said that the sales in israel are always great, it just that there are not enough perfomences ("Ba aretz ha mehirot ahla, rak she en arbe hofaot")
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DJ Pelon(Inpsyde Media)
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Posted : Oct 23, 2002 19:35
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I think many artists and labels are forgetting what made them big in the first place...yes...I'm talking about the net...and what about all these great traxx that will never be released? do you really think they should stay in the shade forever? sorry folks...I think that mp3 is what made this scene so big...think about it...boom
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Oct 23, 2002 20:41
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Pelon, name 5 artists that became big thanks to the net, If you please. and by becoming big i am talking about records sales and recognition of the Web's contribution to that factor.
"We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb
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Panzer
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Posted : Oct 24, 2002 02:19
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On 2002-10-23 20:41, Jason (LyTe) wrote:
Pelon, name 5 artists that became big thanks to the net, If you please. and by becoming big i am talking about records sales and recognition of the Web's contribution to that factor.
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Analog Pussy |
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Oct 24, 2002 09:02
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that's one. but Analog pussy didn't have their tracks spread by other people. they spread them there voluntaraly. and BTW, in case you don't know, MP3.com denied their earnings there...
anyone else?
"We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb
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Davolo
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Posted : Oct 24, 2002 09:22
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Infected Mushroom .. don't know how it affected their record sales but they pack a crowd and how do you justify the appearance fee? How did their live audience learn about their talent?
Would like to know more about MP3.com denying an artist their earnings.. |
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Oct 24, 2002 10:16
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Infected had their Mp3's put up there by BNE, so people won't download pirate mp3's. I'm talking about artists who had their mp3's spread about the net WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF IT, and of course, artists who profited from such widespread and acknowledged it consequently.
as for Analog pussy's earnings from mp3.com, read here, in the following link:
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/29/features-lewis.php
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Davolo
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Posted : Oct 24, 2002 14:06
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Thanks for the link .. they obviously cannot be trusted ..
I read Pixel's posting about having tracks stolen from their laptop at a party .. which made me realise how desperate people can be .. and heartless.. and ignorant .. and selfish
How low you go to get your message out there is only hidden by the product being pushed .. so regardless of what BNE did - people downloaded their music and their popularity grew .. you can't tell people what they like - they raised above with a genuine interest in a sea of downloadable music ..
Which is how I came accross them AND bought their albums .. which is pretty much how I discovered the artists I like because they don't get played here (generally) and I can buy them over the net with the same confidence as walking into a store..
Which is why I think that if an artist can attract more people to the travelling show, benefitting by seeing the world, as well as covering their costs then downloading is a vital step in making a few tracks accessable to play in comfort with deeper thought than streaming down a 3 min sample .. the artist is capable of making more money off the door than the royalties if they sold the album to the same number of people ..
but they need the support from both sides .. because if the record doesn't sell then the label isn't going to support / promote them in producing music in the grand scale ..
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Oct 24, 2002 14:18
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On 2002-10-24 14:06, Davolo wrote:
Which is how I came across them AND bought their albums .. Which is pretty much how I discovered the artists I like because they don't get played here (generally) and I can buy them over the net with the same confidence as walking into a store..
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that was BNE's intention, as well as cosma, violet vision, and other BNE artists, which are on mp3.com's mp3 lists. but that's beside the subject. I’m not talking about thoughtfully contrived mp3 postings by record labels. I am talking about Voluminous, disproportional dispersment of unreleased mp3s without the artist/label's consent.
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Which is why I think that if an artist can attract more people to the travelling show, benefiting by seeing the world, as well as covering their costs then downloading is a vital step in making a few tracks accessible to play in comfort with deeper thought than streaming down a 3 min sample .. the artist is capable of making more money off the door than the royalties if they sold the album to the same number of people ..
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i disagree. records sales are proportionally higher than royalty payments, though royalties are a lasting effect. the big cash comes from performing live and record sales, afaik.
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but they need the support from both sides .. Because if the record doesn't sell then the label isn't going to support / promote them in producing music in the grand scale..
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Granted. the artists need our support, if we need their music. which is why I believe downloading ILLEAGLE Mp3's and TRADING them, hurts the artists. I think every self-respecting label should post some of their artist's music online, for people to sample and enjoy. but widespread trading of stuff that has not been released and not yet completed (as in Pixel's case) is just plane theft.
and i still haven’t got 5 artists who VOLUNTARLY posted Mp3's, earned money from it and acknowledged that net distribution of their tracks gave them a shot at fame...
[ This Message was edited by: Jason (LyTe) on 2002-10-24 14:21 ] "We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb
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DJ Pelon(Inpsyde Media)
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Posted : Oct 25, 2002 14:44
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I wasn't talking about artist that sold their music on the net...I was talking about artists that just put it there so ppl all over the planet will know they exist...lets not forget that only the artists themselves can decide if they wants to put their music on the net or not...boom
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