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obu
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Posted : May 2, 2004 00:38
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Relatively speaking trance djs dont get paid that much at all, especially when you compare them to your house and techno djs. Trying getting Tiesto for $1500 (US).
And offcourse the obvious solution to most of your complaints...if you dont like the dj dont go to the party! Pick up a pair of cdj's and lets see how well all of you do in front of a crowd of 3000. Complaining is the easiest thing in the world to do! |
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GuyShanti
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Posted : May 2, 2004 11:08
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On 2004-05-02 00:38, obu wrote:
And offcourse the obvious solution to most of your complaints...if you dont like the dj dont go to the party!
Pick up a pair of cdj's and lets see how well all of you do in front of a crowd of 3000.
Complaining is the easiest thing in the world to do!
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what if u never heared the dj/artist b4?
we dont complain - we give constructive critisizm  and its a lot of fun...
give me 3000 ppl and I'll make them behave 
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goa-ganges
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Posted : May 3, 2004 12:47
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Well guys, before knowing Goa and getting charmed by it I was more into the Techno scene. So I have a strong opinion about mixing techniques. When you are in a techno party the dj indeed to mix, because unlike trance most techno tracks doesnot have what I call 'humour', which is usually created by etheral effects present mainly in psy tracks. Techno tracks are harder and there's no way of putting a beatless gap between them. It sounds strange, really.
But in a trance floor, I really don' like the 'infinite track' which some Djs create by beatmatching, it seems endless and since most DJs are playing full-on (nothing against full-on, guys) and full-on tracks are very similar - it becomes sort of boring. That's my personal oppinion.
Now someone said that the real charm of the trance scene is its chaos. That's right I think. That's one of the reasons why outdoor parties are so great - you don't know how the landscapes will be, if there is a river or not nearby and so on. And I think it can be said about the DJs performances as well. If some guy just doesn't mix or make some mistake, it's part of the party environment.
I've seen a great star making mistakes, but it made his set more genuine and charming. Again, here enters the trance sense of humour. Let's not make trance a dull factory.
Keep it chaotic.
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Digital Structures
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Posted : May 3, 2004 15:03
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I heard Tsuyoshi play this weekend in Germany and first of all he didn't play skazi or any related ... and second his skills were as excellent as ever.
I think he might have gotten bored with having rotten fruit thrown at him for not playing what people expect him to play when he's visiting countries with a not so open crowd ... and possibly the bad mixing is just a piss take to prove that the crowd in front of him would actually dance to "a guy farting into the mic and beating the ground with a stick" |
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motorik
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Posted : May 3, 2004 15:12
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On 2004-05-03 15:03, Peter Didjital wrote:
I heard Tsuyoshi play this weekend in Germany and first of all he didn't play skazi or any related ... and second his skills were as excellent as ever.
I think he might have gotten bored with having rotten fruit thrown at him for not playing what people expect him to play when he's visiting countries with a not so open crowd ... and possibly the bad mixing is just a piss take to prove that the crowd in front of him would actually dance to "a guy farting into the mic and beating the ground with a stick"
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LOL 
Good one!!!!
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guy cohen
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Posted : May 5, 2004 10:32
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I guess that some of the dj sets are changing from one crowd to the other crowd...like Tsuyoshi Suzuki. |
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clown
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Posted : May 6, 2004 02:32
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i don't know how many times people will keep debating all this story stuff..
but lets look at it this way... the people that don't like to beatmatch claim that when they play there tracks, a story is told durring there sets.. but, the contradiction is, EVERY track is a story on its own.. therefor, if you do not mix these storys together (through beatmatching) the crowd will FEEL the end of every story every 7 minutes in a party.. obviously, making you stop dancing or at least, rebuild some energy.. When you beatmatch tracks, you keep the story going, PLUS, you add to the story, (though the layering of your mixes)...
After a while, people get tired of the same old songs at parties, but when you do long mixes, there are new chapters to the story... which make things more interesting..
if you don't want to beatmatch, why not just pre-record your set and play a cd???
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guy cohen
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Posted : May 7, 2004 18:03
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On 2004-05-06 02:32, clown wrote:
i don't know how many times people will keep debating all this story stuff..
but lets look at it this way... the people that don't like to beatmatch claim that when they play there tracks, a story is told durring there sets.. but, the contradiction is, EVERY track is a story on its own.. therefor, if you do not mix these storys together (through beatmatching) the crowd will FEEL the end of every story every 7 minutes in a party.. obviously, making you stop dancing or at least, rebuild some energy.. When you beatmatch tracks, you keep the story going, PLUS, you add to the story, (though the layering of your mixes)...
After a while, people get tired of the same old songs at parties, but when you do long mixes, there are new chapters to the story... which make things more interesting..
if you don't want to beatmatch, why not just pre-record your set and play a cd???
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100 % AGREE ! |
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goa-ganges
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Posted : May 7, 2004 18:53
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Sorry Cohen and Clown dudes, but I disagree 200%.
That's one of the reasons trance parties are receveing so many negative scores. Better go to see a techno DJ then, just like I saw Derrick May last month when so many trance parties were around Shibuya: it you are out for techniques, go to a techno party. Sure trance DJs have to get some pro techniques as well, but not to the point of mixing as he thinks it's his best and making most of the crowd go to the bar, drinking away to get "tranced".
Peace and Love. |
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guy cohen
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Posted : May 17, 2004 09:45
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GuyShanti , I love your mixes on your show 
There are some big artists that should learn how from u to mix. |
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GuyShanti
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Posted : May 17, 2004 13:05
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ChoBo
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Posted : May 17, 2004 15:24
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is guyshanti = SALAMA? |
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Acidhive
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Posted : May 17, 2004 15:53
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I think the style is what matters most here. Fullon just doesn't mix that well. Progressive on the other hand mixes relatively easy. That's why DJ's like Markus Schulz, Sander Kleinenberg etc. mix so well.
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Basilisk
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Posted : May 17, 2004 16:50
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Have you ever tried to mix full-on? It is the easiest thing, especially with most neo-crap being at the exact same BPM with no surprises. I know this, so I have less tolerance when I hear some hack wrecking up music of this style.
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guy cohen
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Posted : May 18, 2004 10:30
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On 2004-05-17 15:24, ChoBo wrote:
is guyshanti = SALAMA?
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No man , two diffrent people. |
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