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Orbital
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Posted : May 3, 2005 16:09
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I liked 'autobiography of a Yogi', but I think too many things were too supernatural to believe in. I was also at the last kumbh mela in Alahabad but didn't meet a single baba who was above his ego. But fortunately met this white English guy at work who changed my life. I was a rock fan and never understood psy. He introduced me to the world of psy and phew everything fell into its place. Later he got me to Glastonbury in 2003 and I just felt a part of this universe. So i think we have yogis all around us even though they dissappear in thin air...
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psychotic_neuroscientist
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Posted : May 3, 2005 16:17
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hey ppl have we heard of Neuro-Linguistic Progamming (NLP) to find da true self...?
IT SURELY WORKs.......!
No... no more scientists, no more laboratories, no more experiments, I thought you`d be able to understand that. No more! |
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sorceress
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Posted : May 3, 2005 17:13
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facts in our chemistry books state that an average size human body at any one point has energy equalant to 7 *10 raised to the power of 18 Joules...
this is more energy than ten big hydrogen bombs together also might not be able to liberate.
do we really nead more than this enery... that we tale it from others
we just need to stay connected.
we call this Kundalini in eastern thought process.
and then ofcourse they say teach a man to fish for he will be able to fish for him self some day... dont fish for him for he will get lathargic.
the person u met Mr.Karma helped u put away your inhibitions and helped u connect to your own energy source.
@mysticmessiah
the flower starts to glow for u start appriciating it more. hell the trees look greener, the sun seems softer.
so its said that in Rekhi the subject is treated by manupulating his electromagnetic energy fields... here the subject would have to take sittings regularly.
and most of the subjects after getting healed take up the cause of a healer themselves.
Dont thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously use your intelligence
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 3, 2005 19:15
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On 2005-05-03 16:00, mysticmessiah wrote:
jus a small exercise if u r interested:
dis is da season of Golmohurs... do hav any golmohur tree near ur plc...? if not any flowering tree wud do.
jus keep lookin at the gulmohars fr sum time- not particularly focussing- jus lookin; wit a slight smile on ur face. & remember 2 keep urself free of anythin else at dis time...
after abt 20 mins... u'll c the golmohur flowers glowing in a deep, bright yellow light... & u'll notice an elation within u... & suddenly u feel dat ur at a much higher vibratn level...
nw move away; move ur gaze 2 sumthin else. in 2 mins if u look bck, u'll feel dat da flowers r nt glowin nemore. 4get da glowin prt- they'll even appear 2 droop slightly...
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@Mystic Messiah
Im in the American Midwest and have no bloody Gulmohars here. Shit!! 
But yes, TREES. Tree's have always had some sort of hold on the Indian imagination, either as places of sacredness or as places of uneasiness.
I remember my maid used to warn me to watch out for certain tree's she called 'bad'. I used to laugh it off, i didnt give a fcuk, i just wanted to play cricket or something. 
But later on after I met some people i realized the significance of tree's in our spiritual progress. But i will definitely try out what you said. Maybe there is some alternative tree, or just any tree will do ??
@ sorceress
This is what 'white light' meditation helps with. It makes you stronger and more aware of the energy field around you. By constant practice ( coz thats all it takes ) you get more attuned to your energy fields and you can easily sense when someone is trying to manipulate it. At the same time , you can also give and partake in an energy to -n -fro better.
I will swear by this kind of meditation. If you practice hard enough it even gives you the sixth sense type of ability which fine tunes your energy antennae towards anything of importance that shall happen around you.
Btw, have you ever tried 'rekhi' ?
@psycho neuroscientist
NLP ??? nope, cant say ive heard about it.
Want to elaborate ??
@Orbital
See, the supernatural bits and pieces are something that worries many people. Can i believe this ?? shoudl i commit to sucha n extrodinary act of scene ??
I wont comment on whether i felt it was true , nor shall i try to convince you but here's a small eg..
Lets say 500 hundred years ago, the belief that man could fly, or man could land on the moon would earn you a place at the local 'stake burning' night. So, if years ago we found sucha possibility hard to believe maybe we shoudl have more faith in something that we have not experiencd as yet. because it might just be true.
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sorceress
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Posted : May 3, 2005 19:54
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yep its the white light... its that tingling sensation when u see it so clearly as it engulfs your being.
its all about not knowing but being in a state... but unfortunately i loose it (the light) to control... its when i want to control myself for not controlling it.
Rekhi happened in a big way around few years back but then so commercialised that people lost int for everyone proclaimed to be so good at it. that the good people showed no int in coming forward and being a part of the specious parade
i picked up yoga somewhere down the line and do some pranayam along with some stretches... its just feels nice when u stretch your limits early in the morning.
back to topic
today we fighting for enrgies not for we might die with out them.. we wont.
but marely due to insecurities.
we often fail to realise that there is no diff between being selfish and insecure...
which ever u put it at the end of the day u think u are not strong enough
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diepiggypiggydie on digene
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Posted : May 3, 2005 20:06
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we often fail to realise that there is no diff between being selfish and insecure...
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out of personal experience.. i totally agree with that one..
buyti have a question..
when you do somethign for someone.. which wasnt asked for maybe.. but you could see a need.. you respect the person enough ..so that you dont want the need to present itself.. before you say youll give cause your always in a position to give.. and why wait?
but at the end of the day.. when what you give out never seems to find its way back to you.. how are you to take it?
dont expect anything from anyone.. sure..
but when you know youve helped people out.. only for them not to appreciate it?
maybe its just an insecurity or a sad cry for a selfish cause.. but what areyour thoughts ?
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mysticmessiah
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Posted : May 3, 2005 20:11
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On 2005-05-03 17:13, sorceress wrote:
facts in our chemistry books state that an average size human body at any one point has energy equalant to 7 *10 raised to the power of 18 Joules...
@mysticmessiah
the flower starts to glow for u start appriciating it more. hell the trees look greener, the sun seems softer.
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7*10 raised to the power of 18 J! hmmm...
dat's quite an amt of energy...
can u educate me on hw v arrive at dis figure...
i mean do v take in2 account the energy in all possible forms dat exists in the human body...? say, kinetic, chemical, energy derived frm all da yummies v manage 2 eat etc...
is dis a kinda summatn of all these forms of energy..? jus 4 my info...
appreciation, yes! a very imp emotion...
u r able 2 expand ur energy field beyond limits wen u learn to appreciate... everything...
appreciation dat transcends boundaries & changes into a feeling of seamless love!!!
has ne1 of u actually tried & seen people's energy fields...?
~~ I'm a guest in my own Reality~~
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 3, 2005 20:25
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On 2005-05-03 20:06, diepiggypiggydie on digene wrote:
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we often fail to realise that there is no diff between being selfish and insecure...
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out of personal experience.. i totally agree with that one..
buyti have a question..
when you do somethign for someone.. which wasnt asked for maybe.. but you could see a need.. you respect the person enough ..so that you dont want the need to present itself.. before you say youll give cause your always in a position to give.. and why wait?
but at the end of the day.. when what you give out never seems to find its way back to you.. how are you to take it?
dont expect anything from anyone.. sure..
but when you know youve helped people out.. only for them not to appreciate it?
maybe its just an insecurity or a sad cry for a selfish cause.. but what areyour thoughts ?
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A classic case. I daresay we all have felt like this sometime. When you feel so a 'part' of somebody that you can anticipate their needs and work towards giving them what that is, but not seeing the same from them, nor least of all a reaction. (did i get that right phew!!)
I would feel confused, lost and hurt.
hurt because at the end of the day i am a being, and things hurt as well as please. But to attribute that hurt to somebody's lack of appreciation, may just be a bit selfish.
confused, because of this supposed gap i created in my mind about that certain person.
Lost, because i scramble my head up think about it  . No, seriously, because i would need to learn and maybe look at this prson by incorporating something new, that i may or may not like. And thats always hard, when u feel u know all there is to about this person.
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sorceress
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Posted : May 3, 2005 20:56
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@ mysticmessiah -
i know the figure of energy coz i went to school sat on the first bench and heardn what my teacher had to say and later Mr. bryson confirmed it for me.
ok consider this... E= MC2 here C is a constant as it is the speed of light squared which is a huge number that leaves us with the equation which says energy is inversly proportionate to mass.
energy is liberated mass and mass is energy waiting to happen... plus to push a bigger stone u need more energy.
ok i may be drifting.
but i might not have seen the auras rather electromagnetic fields but i can sense them.. evry one can... we know when a person is angry.
@diepiggypiggydie on digene-
never spare a bender... just remember hit him where its tender.
for no one would ever spare u wen u bend.
Mr. Karma that was rare but brilliant insight.
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Posted : May 3, 2005 21:14
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On 2005-05-03 20:06, diepiggypiggydie on digene wrote:
out of personal experience.. i totally agree with that one..
buyti have a question..
when you do somethign for someone.. which wasnt asked for maybe.. but you could see a need.. you respect the person enough ..so that you dont want the need to present itself.. before you say youll give cause your always in a position to give.. and why wait?
but at the end of the day.. when what you give out never seems to find its way back to you.. how are you to take it?
dont expect anything from anyone.. sure..
but when you know youve helped people out.. only for them not to appreciate it?
maybe its just an insecurity or a sad cry for a selfish cause.. but what areyour thoughts ?
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very valid point...
dis is hw i luk at it...
wenever u giv sumthin 2 sum1 or do a gud turn without his asking, don't u feel content & happy & energised at dat point of time...?
dis is wat v need 2 hold on2... its wen v fail 2 tap dis source dat v turn 2 others & dat's hw expectatns soar...
but if, instead, u consider dat boost of energy as da reward & use it effectively 4 ur evolution- thr's no questn of disappointment...
richard bach has said... there r over six billion worlds on dis planet... true since evry man has his own unique world...
nw, if u r da creator of dat exclusively urs world; hw can external factors affect its environ...? it's u who designd dat world; u who's maintainin it & u who own it...
wen everythin is within u & every event's a result of UR choice; den y d discontent...?
well, dat's jus my way of lukin at it...
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 3, 2005 22:03
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@Mystic Messiah
Yes, good deeds help me sleep better at night
But if every man has his own world created ( i dont dispute that) isnt it just a bit selfish to presume that external factors dont affect our personal world/lives. If that is the case, then for sure 'our' actions and energy affect other people. SO isnt it more of a mutual sort of world we live in.
Its also true, as u said, that we make our lives
content or horrific  through our ways and thinking. Its up to you finally to make it work or not. But i still wonder if i could be wholly content if my world doesnt mold in with someone close to me.
@die piggy
GET IT !!!
The best way to be happy, is to work on the bit that 'the feeling you get when u do something good'. A step further might not always be helpful. be happy that you did somethn great and good and forget about the reactions or appreciation part.
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mysticmessiah
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Posted : May 3, 2005 23:07
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On 2005-05-03 20:56, sorceress wrote:
@ mysticmessiah -
i know the figure of energy coz i went to school sat on the first bench and heardn what my teacher had to say and later Mr. bryson confirmed it for me.
ok consider this... E= MC2 here C is a constant as it is the speed of light squared which is a huge number that leaves us with the equation which says energy is inversly proportionate to mass.
energy is liberated mass and mass is energy waiting to happen... plus to push a bigger stone u need more energy.
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well, if c (3*10 raised to the power of 8 m/s) is a constnt & if e=mc2, den e cannot b inversely proportional 2 mass. in fact, e is directly proportional... if u need more energy 2 push more mass, dat means e is directly proportional 2 mass... the concept of d theory of relativity is dat any mass is capable of producing an amt of enrgy which is da product of its mass with the square of the velocity of light... so more da mass, more da energy...
but dat wasn't my questn... wen u say our body has 7*10 raised to the power of 18 J of energy, whr does dat energy cme frm...? energy cn neithr be created nor be destroyed, remember...?
i jus wantd 2 find out if dis fig is arrivd at by summin up all the diff forms of energy dis body contains...
P.S. ya i was nevr on da 1st bench; but i luvd my science lectures indeed but i hav a lot 2 learn 2... which is y da discussn...
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diepiggypiggydie on digene
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Posted : May 3, 2005 23:41
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my my .. what sweet timing to read this!
lol its alright cause i got the apoligy call .. and yeah i did give the other person a hard time trying to make it up!
but yeah.. let sjuss say i put the advice in practice even before i saw it
pretty cool i saw it thou
appreciate it a lot.. can see some common frames of thought.. and its just brillaint
my favourite approach to maintain this world is distracting myself.. onto another activity/person where my thoughts would be consumed..
infact the last acid trip ihad.. i was thinking about the predicament of the preacher and his flock!
( just anothe random thought.. dont take it that seriously )
so yout hink the preacher is helping everyone out.. but actully he needs to help everyone cause maybe if he spends to much time with his head there is just to much for him to handle in there.. so he distracts himself and uses the high he gets from helping people to provide some sort of sanity tohis world.. and the flock perceives his actions to be the noblest of all.. but he knows his true motives.. the poor guy must get fucked cause of his conscience.. and would get even more fucked if he didnt help in the first place..
anyways ..
thanks again
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Posted : May 4, 2005 10:23
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if this thread is about spirituality n self why is it that no one mentioned the name of Osho the only multi dimensional buddha of new age. we might not recognize the master but it will be hard to avoid what he says.
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*Karma Cola*
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On 2005-05-04 10:23, centerOcyclone wrote:
if this thread is about spirituality n self why is it that no one mentioned the name of Osho the only multi dimensional buddha of new age. we might not recognize the master but it will be hard to avoid what he says.
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Im sure i read something about someone mentioning the Rajneesh baba in the thread earlier.
His books are great, i rwad one a while ago tho. But the state of his ashram in Pune is despicable. I know coz my granny's frnd was on the board and she used to tell me what crap was going on.
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