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A (very) provocative post :-)

Candy
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 09:09
Kaz and Yuli, you said it all.
Where has the real psychedelic music gone?
Btw, this exact same topic has already been discussed: http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php?topic=19523&forum=1
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 11:39
Quote:

On 2003-09-21 03:27,wrote:

ppl on 'your' side




i hope there is no sides, or wont be in near future. im not consider on myself which side am i. time do its thing, different speed in different geographic points. im not going since some time to parties with too full on, when more ppl will do sme so logicaly we will have different parties also (if not i will do it bymyself). without separate, natural thing.

and sorry for that sentence, i wasnt full of myself, but more in alcohol from baraka, damn ber sheva's girls make me drink tooo fucking much week after week:)

peace, no violence, cheers.
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 11:42
Quote:

On 2003-09-21 03:27, Yuli wrote:
In the end of the day all the high-culture-smart-asses that so full of themselves must remember that without Astral Projection ( an example ) and such, there would be no 'progressive scene'




exact, and without sven vath there would be no astral, but somehow this everybody cant remember and agree, why ?? coze he own this big CLUB COCOON!!
and without those black guys in chigaco there would be not vinyls for sven to spin in early goa:)
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medir
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 12:53
...divide the scene ? -NOo... ( agree with kaz )

i prefer parties where it has a bit of all. though like patrick has mentioned, here in swizz the splitting has already become reality. at least at bigger parties. okay...wasn t muchos at parties this and last year...so it isn t very objective...

smt it s interesting for me: some ppl mentioned they belive that "prog"-scene has more aspects of the good old time ? ...hmm...isn t it in switzerland otherwise around ?!?

neo-hippie-chakra-thingie ?
...we are cyber-shamans !! =((-8

bomski

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medir
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 13:01
yuli:

it s interesting that u speak about psy-rock. i know some ppl which organize such, since 2 years with big succss...maybe this is really the "revolution". at least the scence is very close to old goa family. ...nicy nice

bom bom           experiment !
make it your motto day and night.
experiment,
and it will lead you to the light.
the apple on the top of the tree
is never too high to achieve,
so take an example from eve...
experiment !
nobody_3
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 13:04
Provocative yes but arogant - no i dont think so. The people that know me know that I am one of the most openminded people when it come to listening to all kinds of music and accepting all kinds of people.

I am not surprised that so many people did not get the point of my post. It was a provocation to start a debate - and so it did
Ron Lyner
Ron Lyner

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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 13:52
so i guess we will stay with only-fullon parties..

Quote:

i guess the full on side sort of owns isratrance.com since majority of people here prefer full on..

so progressive fans.. get lost and start your own page



thats why we have only-fullon parties...
cause all of the fullon lovers don't want anything to do with progressive trance.

most of them even don't know any progressive trance, they just know they hate it..

i know that its not like that in all of the fullon scene
but this is why the trance-scene is splitting.

im realy sorry but how i see things right now is that i wont hear music i like in almost every party.
and this what makes me think it should be splited..
i didnt think that way 2 years ago even that i always liked more the progressive side of the scene.

so i dont care if the parties will be only-progressive or progressive&fullon parties,
but it must have progressive in it and lots of it..

and all im talking about is the scene in israel.
i don't know how is it in other countries.

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amazon
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 14:19
hey ron lyner, well one can always start making proggy parties, they seem to be easier to make - small club, a small group of people, dont even need a powerful system as the sound is almost always cleaner simpler... and there you go...indoor, elitist and ofcourse the prevalent drug of the choice would be very different from the real outdoor full on eperience-cocaine vs. acid.

so consequently we have the different attitudes. neo hippie chankra thingy vs. arrogant elitist clubbers....LOL

i dont really want to belong to neither of these...just love my music and dance till there is no more the dancer only the music...

i still like to hear my proggy stuff at night, full on early morning, proggy late morning...i think separating the scene wouldnt do it anygood. would make it homogenous, and boring.
i miss parties where i can hear both sounds, so maybe there is already some truth in what elysium suggests.
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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 14:38
Quote:

i still like to hear my proggy stuff at night, full on early morning, proggy late morning...
i miss parties where i can hear both sounds,



well its not like that in the parties here..
its only fullon in the night fullon in the morning and fullon all the time..
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nova
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 15:02
this is almost politics... i think that we have here a seriose problem with snobish atitude...
im 100% with kaz over here... this is music... this is trance... it spouse to be colorfull...
i love proggy and full-on... love them both in one party... i cant split my self to 2... where should i go?          just flow baby... just flow...
Yuli
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 15:14
Zombie before you spank me with Sven Vath and Chicago.. The vynils that firstly were spinned are those of Mississippi Delta Blues masters of the early 1920's, these vynil were really rare and DJ's published the actual names of the vynils they gonna play in their set ( it was during the 50's - 60's if I am not mistaken ) and one last thing and that is connected very well to the snobbish attitude.

MAYBE, when I mentioned Astral I did it in purpose? MAYBE, Astral ( and such ) opened the trance world for me ( and many others that got hooked on this ) back in 1992? So why do I need to care about what happened in Detroit or Chicago 10 years before?

As usual the elitistic approach, I know it all and I gonna teach u something u dont know ... Not long ago I was really into proggy scene, but when I found out it mostly made of ppl that KNOW what is good for me, I knew that it wasn't what I was lookin for           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
nobody_3
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 15:19
Yuli I think that no matter what music you're into theer's always people that think they KNOW what is good for you. Believe me I've seen that attitude in many different occasions. It's not something specific related to the proggy scene.
Yuli
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 15:36
That is why I belong to NO-SCENE scene           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Ron Lyner
Ron Lyner

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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 15:49
is there no-scene-parties ???



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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Sep 21, 2003 15:57
Two parts of the scene?
Prog and psy?

Yes I know this too...

But I don't agree that psy part is neo hippy bullshit and prog still is down to the routs!

BOTH Parts forgot, what it's all about.
Find out yourself whats missing in the two parts!

Open up a third! part.           Most of my music for you to download at:
http://www.subconsciousmind.ch
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