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A simple question to all the artists on this forum...

yossi
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 10, 2003 21:32
its not about beeing an angel or not... and its even not about legal and illegal also.
im preaty sure that most of us do illegal things(driving fast, drugs.. ect ect...)

its all about supporting what you like!

and all the talkes about money bla bla... its bullshit. nobody told any1 to buy all the releaes...
but the few once that u do like - buy them

          if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
Chi
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 10, 2003 21:55
Quote:

On 2003-02-10 18:48, yossi wrote:
and if u dont have an ATM nearby u just go a rob some old lady?




...............................What kind of is that?
Please read all the posts before leaving sarcasm
nobody_3
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Posted : Feb 10, 2003 22:43
You people keep telling us that we are greedy and that we are not enough "artistic" businessmen if we talk about money and "dare" to ask for moeny from our work...... what a lot of BS!!!!! - it's such a cliché made by people who never have been and never will be able to make anything remote creative !!!

Well in order to be able to make music, buy the gear for the studio, use 1000's of hours in the studio and create something new we need money so we can concentrate on what we are best at..MAKING MUSIC... If we have to go out and do a normal day job in order to get food on te table then we wont be able to work in the sudio much and therefore we wont be able to create much music that YOU people love so much !!!!

So what do you people want us to do? Just sit in our studio's and make music until we have so much debt that our studios are taken away from us? Just so you can get free music ??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!

Well why don't you people tell your boss that it's ok that he don't pay for your work anymore??? Wouldn't that be a great idea?

Thinks before you speak and write people.... You do not know what you're talking about !!!
Yuli
Retired

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Posted : Feb 10, 2003 22:55
Kristian,

I think u waste a perfectly good time and energy for hopeless ppl.. They wouldn't get what u say even if u carve it on their forehead.. Just waste of perfectly good time

Nicely spoken anyway
          A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
nobody_3
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Posted : Feb 10, 2003 23:18
yeah I know Yuli... they just piss me off...lol
Rabbitalien


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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 00:08
Money rules everywhere thats what really piss me off !
Leuname
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 01:15
Hey YOSSI i see that for you everthing is music

Do you buy your favorite games??????

You dont have any divx or xvid movie on your computer?????

Your Operativ System is original?????

Elysium Project ok you dont have but you agree that probably the most part of the ppl have illegal progs on their computers ??
Thats for sure for me.

Nice points rabbitalien on the first top

One last point who creates the musics ??? the artists
But how the unreleased tracks appear on the net???? who´s the fault
The pirates ???? No i dont tink so if they like and they can get of course they will download but i dont agree when those guys make publicity or propaganda that i dont agree.
I have unreleased stuff on my computer in mp3 but i dont show i dont put posts or make publicity is for me nothing more.
Say what you want but my head is clean and free in that point
yossi
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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 02:12
Quote:

On 2003-02-11 01:15, Leuname wrote:
Hey YOSSI i see that for you everthing is music

Do you buy your favorite games??????

You dont have any divx or xvid movie on your computer?????

Your Operativ System is original?????




i dont play computer games.
i dont have any divx or xvid movies on my computer.
and yea, my windows is original.

and hell yeah, music is my air.
          if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
nobody_3
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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 02:49
Leuname just because people have illegal software and movies on their computers does not make it ok to steal music... This is not the issue and it's just a bad excuse for justifying stealing music !!!

It has nothing to do with this topic !!! But it does prove that people's moral today is that they think everything is for free and that they are a bunch of egoistic weasels that dont spend any money on what they can get for free...... Well if the majority stopped taking so damn many drugs every weekend then they would have money to buy some music !!!

No excuse whatsoever will convince me that it's ok to get download music for free.....And mark my words.... I don't care how angry people get at me for saying these things and I do not care if they think i am aggogant and that I am a "seel out"... I am not the one with a problem..they are !!!
KosMos
Drone

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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 02:57
doing one thing wrong is not an excuse to make more..
it's a prompt to make it right!

at least do it for the music which is suffering.. if you care...           in search for an answer...
Namhaj


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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 03:21
For those of you who wish money wasnt everything, go live in the bush, or wake up to yourself, everything costs money, drugs, cars, fuel, food... the list goes on

Music should be free? Why? please explain... You do you realise the 1000's of dollars, not to mention time thats spent building a studio to produce high quality music?

You cant see if you like the tracks on a cd from the realplayer samples from places like psyshop? what the fuck do you want? full quality promos delivered to you door? ..... I think you want the music for free.

I have no problem with people downloading my music to see if they like or not, but i know people personally who dont pay for shit and are quite happy to play mp3's when they spin, they are pea hearted scabs!

Cant afford to buy cds? But you can afford the drugs you take when you listen to this at a party right? (which is more expensive than a cd) you cant download drugs so you are forced to pay right?

I dont have divx on my computer, its shit quality ill go get the dvd if i really want to see it. I pay for all my studio equipment from my (second) job!

If any of you "music should be free" people can explain to me why i should give my music out for free and "keep it underground" while i work hard to pay off this studio (and get my label off the ground) ill give you a free cd of the first compilation from my label. Whinging and whining about how money shouldnt be everything is not an acceptable answer!

The reality is no one can stop free trading on the web, but people can realise that if they dont buy the music they love it will no longer be available, not even for download.
Leuname
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 04:24
Ok ok you guys have your opinion i have mine.

But please dont be like that dont try to send me sand to my eyes that nobody here have illegal stuff ok ok

Yossi if music is your life ok you dont do nothing else with your computer only music ok ok please dont be like that.
I never saw so much arrogancy like iam seing right now. I dont believe that you guys have internet and do not MAKE ANY DOWNLOADS.
In relation to mp3 even professional dj´s use mp3 music downloaded illegaly.
Please one more time dont be like that you are lieing to me and to yourselves
I believe that there are ppl that dont have nothing illegal but please common the most part of them have for sure.

Yossi you are the Angel master.
So i dont have nothing more to say only to artists that one time for all learn this HOW THEIR UNRELEASED STUFF APEAR ON THE NET.I want to know how.
Mp3 and all tipe of piracy will never end because net have changed the world so dont try to fight against a lost war only you artists can stop not giving your stuff to ppl that probably you trust.

Like i said i dont agree with propaganda of illegal stuff i have illegal stuff and dont make propaganda.Ppl that make that are wrong and need to change their mentality but i dont CONDEMN those guys like many ppl here do BECAUSE I DONT MAKE JUDGMENTS.

Cya and always open to talk and discuss all the thems.
nobody_3
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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 04:34
Well it's very very easy...our music end up on the internet when labels giveit out to DJ's without our accept!!!
Leuname
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 04:50
I see
So my opinion you have to be carefull who you give the material.

The labels need to have more responsability and try to find the faults because if that music appears the pirats have no fault they see the tracks and they download, i tink the labels need to have more responsability working with the unreleased material.

Tanks Elysium for your answer
traveller
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Posted : Feb 11, 2003 11:34
blah blah blah...          "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
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