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YSE - What's going on?

EYB
Noized

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Posts :  2849
Posted : Nov 17, 2005 00:50


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sorry, to understand arguments, you need a bit of own intelligence.



True. I don't think that i don't have any own intelligence, at least it is enough to read this topic and to see that at least three artists complained about YSE.

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you have 2159 posts here in this forum. seems like your knowlegde is realy important and needs to be shared in your opinion.



With this post i have 2163 posts. Surely not all this post contain useful information but i never said they do. I am a user of this forum and the sense of this forum is to change thoughts related to psytrance with other people, some use it more some less. I really like this forum and the number of posts doesn't say much in any way but that i posted 2163 replies at the moment. Some may not high quality but there are also useful replies from me.

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I use this forum from time to time since a few years, sometimes interest about music production, sometimes making jokes and fun, sometimes in heavy discussion and sometimes hanging around and wasting a few minutes.



This absolutly ok, therefore this forum is open to all people to talk about psytrance related stuff.

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I just try to imagine how it must feel to go here and try to talk about things I in fact dont know.



And how does it feel? I am sure not so good, but maybe u like it and if u do i don't and can't stop u talking about things u don't know.

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I also start to flame against people without any background. Only repeated bla bla I have read in the internet.



If u mean me, it is just not true. You don't know anything about my background. And with 'bla bla' u say all people who complained about YSE here are can't be taken serious and that is not ok. U want ur comments and the work of YSE respected but u don't respect people that don't have the same way of thinking like you.


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From the world I am, its usually to make an own opinion, and If I dont have an idea or trusted information: I shut up.



I am sure we are from the same world. And surely it is better for u to shut up if u don't have trusted infos. But if i have an idea i am happy to talk in this forum about it.


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in advance i congrate you to your 2160s post.



U don't need to. I already said above it doesn't say much.


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everybody needs a try to express theirselfes. some need less, some need more



It is about quality not quantinty. But in forum it isn't that important.            Signature
PKS
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  75
Posts :  490
Posted : Nov 17, 2005 09:49
Hello Alexander!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge about this label etc. I started this topic, just of curiosity. I hope you agree with me that it should be allowed to ask a question like that..? It's quite impressive with that many releases, so offcourse I'm curious..

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there are many people who just live in a fictional world maybe influenced by drugs or just a dizzy mind. they just think they know how the world runs, but they know a shit about anything. just talkin´without thinkin´...



Sure there are, but maybe it's a bit unfair to jump to that conclusion about the artists complaining in this forum...?

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people who dont get paid are those who do not even understand the procedure which enables them to get paid,



Trance artists are just normal human beings just like everybody else. YSE also releases tracks by a lot of fresh/new artists who doesn't have much experience with music business. It should be your responsibility to help them and give them the right information to get payed. Just because they don't send you a correct written invoice, doesn't mean you get their tracks for free... (unless both parts have agreed on that offcourse..)

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how on earth do u think its possible to release 40 albums per year without clearing the tracks legally and without paying people, ey?



40 releases per year is REALLY impressive! That's why I started this topic...

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i´m workin in this business for over 10 years and i discovered for novatekk some of the biggest names of todays trance scene and released their
debut album. ben is doing underground even longer...so we´re underground even longer than most of you exist or know about our scene...



You guys have done a lot of good things, and I admire that. Offcourse! But, I think it's a bit unnecessary to brag about it in this topic... It's better to give a good explanation to your buyers/fans. By the way, you sort of explained pretty much too, so it's ok...

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so who are you writing this shit about us, behind a nickname?



I'm not sure which of the guys here you are referring to... Anyway, I'm PKS=Per Kristian Slagsvold, and I don't think I have written any "shit" here...

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if there are any questions, or you still feel that you need some arguing with me, don´t hesitate to contact me : alex@millenniumrecords.com



I don't have any argue with you, but I hope those who does, get an answer on their e-mails this time...
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uvego
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  14
Posts :  432
Posted : Nov 20, 2005 21:46
ANDROMEDA !!! first album and this new one.

great job YSE !!!

goodluck with the label !!!
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N-A-S-A
Nasa/The Gnome Effect

Started Topics :  23
Posts :  165
Posted : Nov 23, 2005 22:08
Detox: Well, since it was Banel who told be about YSE and the licenses, i suppose im not totally misinformed on this subject

Believe or not, im just telling you what i have been told.           http://www.facebook.com/nasa.tranceproject
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/inm/inm1cd036.html
http://www.junodownload.com/products/1537910-02.htm
https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/222773/unique#
Reece
Neuron Compost

Started Topics :  36
Posts :  512
Posted : Feb 2, 2006 14:32
well, looks like YSE is about to fuck over another artist!


after stumbling across this: http://www.saikosounds.com/english/display_release.asp?id=5441
3 days before it was due to be released, i contacted millenium records, telling them that i am the sole copyright holder for the track Neuron Compost - Dragon Poo, (previously released on Apoxina Records) and that they have not been granted permission to license / release the track.

they responded, saying "sometimes the shops are putting our planned tracklists online. we requested your track at your label but never got an answer, so this is not the final tracklist online!"

ok, fair enough i thought.

Goa Girl 2 has now been offically released. my track is on the compilation.

i have since contacted YSE and told them to make the necessary arrangements for licensing fees to be paid quick smart, or i will tell my lawyer to commence legal proceedings.

THIS DOES NOT SOUND LIKE THE ACTIONS OF A LABEL WITH THE ARTISTS BEST INTERESTS AT HEART

Le Lotus Bleu
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  114
Posts :  438
Posted : Feb 2, 2006 15:00
Does anyone know if a distributor, when is in exclusive deal with a label, could then directly deal licensing stuffs with Y.S.E ?

(in the positive case, maybe the explainanation could come from Wirikuta for those who were released on Apoxina)

full_on
IsraTrance Team

Started Topics :  278
Posts :  5470
Posted : Feb 2, 2006 21:56
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On 2006-02-02 14:32, Reece wrote:

they responded, saying "sometimes the shops are putting our planned tracklists online. we requested your track at your label but never got an answer, so this is not the final tracklist online!"



Man, they are making promotion using your tracks... And as a matter of fact, I was a victiom because I bought one of their releases in which the track is on all online Shops up to today, but the track is NOT on the album... Check this:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/72278/forum/1

I contacted them a thousand times and they ignored me. Disgusting label, no respect at all.
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DETOX
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Started Topics :  290
Posts :  6194
Posted : Feb 2, 2006 22:08
I worked and still working with them and all is absolutely fine.

They ask me before licensing a tune,i give my permission and they pay me on time.

So far so good at least for my label.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Shaqattack
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  71
Posts :  1381
Posted : Feb 2, 2006 22:12
i was just wondering yesday about what on earth is goin on and how does YSE manage to get already released tracks or other tracks from artists of different labels and put it on the compilations..and this is prolly the reason they release compilations by the dozen...

very funny man...imo they r the label with the max releases...i hope i am wrong..!

who are these people????

and yo do they think they can release tracks already and people will actually purchase them...every compilation they have come out with has atleast 2-3 tracks previously released...

crazy ass shit man!!
Reece
Neuron Compost

Started Topics :  36
Posts :  512
Posted : Feb 3, 2006 03:38
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On 2006-02-02 15:00, Le Lotus Bleu wrote:
Does anyone know if a distributor, when is in exclusive deal with a label, could then directly deal licensing stuffs with Y.S.E ?

(in the positive case, maybe the explainanation could come from Wirikuta for those who were released on Apoxina)






no. the distributor has NOTHING to do with licensing the music, and have NO authority to act on behalf of labels signed exclusively.


anywayz, now alex@millenium is ASSURING me that my track is NOT on the compilation.

why the fk is every online store listing it in the tracklist, with samples!?!?!?!
full_on
IsraTrance Team

Started Topics :  278
Posts :  5470
Posted : Feb 3, 2006 04:49
Yes, probably thats why I bought an album that was supposed to have Broken Toy - Absolutely (Scorb Remix) but doesn't have it.

The guy is using other artists tracks to promote their releases... This is just ridiculous...
But you're lucky: at least Alex replied to your e-mails.
Respect!
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...Dance like nobody's watching...
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Reece
Neuron Compost

Started Topics :  36
Posts :  512
Posted : Feb 4, 2006 02:58
these guys are now just getting ridiculous....

after asking WHY every online store is still listing my track as a part of the GOA GIRL 2 compilation, Alex has sent me links to Goa vol. 14 to assure me my track isnt there......

not only have they fucked me over, but now think im an idiot too!

Reece
Neuron Compost

Started Topics :  36
Posts :  512
Posted : Feb 4, 2006 03:01
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On 2006-02-02 22:08, DETOX wrote:
I worked and still working with them and all is absolutely fine.

They ask me before licensing a tune,i give my permission and they pay me on time.

So far so good at least for my label.




lucky you.
perhaps its because of the 'trance heirarchy' u get treated with respect. u know, - big names, better treat em nice attitude.

underground musicians not so lucky it seems....

maybe ask yourself if you wanna continue being involved with a business who treat some people like shit.
DETOX
Moderator

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Posts :  6194
Posted : Feb 4, 2006 04:16
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On 2006-02-04 03:01, Reece wrote:

maybe ask yourself if you wanna continue being involved with a business who treat some people like shit.




We both (more or less) knew that before opening our labels no?

And speaking about business i try very hard to think of a business in our modern society that involves a lot of people and where these people dont fuck up each other every day in various aspects and ways.

I mean in my day time job my employes are supposed to be at work at 5am in the morning but constanly and even on a daily basis many of them are half an hour and even an hour late,ofcourse i pay them for this hour but i am being fucked up by them no?

Ofcourse when they come to me for a raise i present this fact to them and they kindly get their raise request back so its my turn to fuck them.

Everything on this planet works vice versa so if you think that someone is messing up with you then do your best and mess up with him too,except ofcourse if you believe too much in Christianity and the 'turn the other cheek to the guy that slaps you' theory presented by Jesus.

Thank God i was never much into religion...LOL

Anyway hope your case gets solved really fast and all the best of luck with your label.

Keep in touch           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
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Posted : Feb 22, 2006 21:51
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