YOU CAN MAKE PSYTRANCE BIGGER !!!!!!!!!!

On 2005-09-06 11:22, neuromantik wrote:
@krell

I'm sorry but this pretentious thread has obliged me to respond. I'll will probably be modded as flamebait but I have to shed another opinion, one who I believe is as valid as every other.

When I was going to goa parties back in 96, not that long ago but not yesterday, I can remember that as a young 16 year old who grew up on tangerine dream/brian eno/skinny puppy I was very much attracted by the music since it seemed to push the boundaries of aural landscapes. However, I remember that being a non-drug user and not wearing the latest space tribe fluoro alien gear, not passing chillums and not saying 'bom' every time someone looked at me, well I guess those people never really opened up to me.

I'll be more blunt: your so called psytrance CULTURE (I would rather call it a CULT) is one of the most closed minded, neo-hippy credit card carrying elitist electronic music culture I've ever immersed myself into.

YOU are the problem with the psytrance movement today. Who are you to judge who may participate in YOUR culture, listen to YOUR music? People like cedric want to try to make a living off what they do, and I'm sure they barely brake even (un SMIC?) with the current state of affairs. Why can't they? Is it not allowed to commit oneself personally and professionally in such a nobile endeavor?

You say
"If its all about entering collective trances, creating tribes and increasing our awareness of our planet and each other, then we need a scene where these things are in focus - and not nescessarily the artists themselves."

Well I retort that although I agree that one should respect and preserve our planet and others, why does music have to do with any of it? I'm a psytrance atheist, and although I'm interested in various anthropological topics, I don't want to be part of a TRIBE/CULT/SECT who delude themselves into thinking they are a chosen few whos music must remain secret to the masses. Please, kung-fu didn't wither when bruce lee taught it to the popular class in san francisco? Are you some psy trance conservatist?

You say
"Stop thinking that much about money - you should be happy to work for free, and just enjoy the respect and the vibes that go with your role/status.
If you do not like it, do not do it. Plenty of people just invest in the psyscene because it makes them feel good....

If you are able to get all this respect, and great experiences for free - that in the end should be reward enough should it not ? Your role in this culture is the role of the shaman, very important, a guide and healer you could say. You have to ask yourself, do you really want to make psytrance more commercial? Because that is where you are headed!"

What kind of commie bullcrap is that? Why should cedric work for free so that YOU can enjoy the fruits of his labor? This thought process is what makes me sick about psytrance today, this deification of the artists by giving them the role of shaman/healer/god and having the audience be some kind of chosen people (no pun intended). Cedric, I truly respect your music and your presence on scene, but I know you are only human, who needs to eat and sleep like everyone (actually as you said you are a vampire who sucks the energy from the crowd by making incredible dance music )

Cedric isn't putting posters of his face in the metros of paris promoting his music. He is trying to reach a larger audience, how does that conflict with psytrance "culture"? I happen to enjoy talking to different people in parties who aren't self anointed psy trance guardians such as yourself.

Krell, do you know what laicity means? It means that I want to listen to my psy trance without having this bullcrap like "active meditation" and "spiritual healing" shoved down my throat.

I'll end on one note. I've been to many psytrance parties as a passive observer and one who enjoys the music greatly. However out of all the parties, I have to say that Japan has the nicest crowd, best vibe, the most open minded listeners I've ever had the pleasure of sharing the dancefloor with. These are people who would go to a psytrance party and then the next day go to a snoop dog concert and then the following to a dark ambient festival (holeg spies). Now I think it's wishful thinking to believe that we in europe can achieve that level of understanding of psytrance culture, which is nothing more than acceptance and tolerance.

Why don't you go to canada and join RAEL, you both have the same rhetoric..