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Yet another 432hz thread

jekvan
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Posted : Oct 26, 2013 23:00
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On 2013-10-26 19:45, Babaluma wrote:
Then it's completely arbitrary, right? Then why not drop it to 417, or 400, or 12 (joke)?

There are some strange claims made for it on websites, which I've never really understood.

With Just Intonation, it's easy to understand that, whilst remaining within one key, all the notes are perfect whole number ratios of the Tonic, and it's VERY easy to hear a difference from regular Equal Temperament.

But this 432 thing seems to have a lot of claims made for it that don't stand up to logical analysis. I love it, as I said earlier, for being historical, and for the fact that it makes my guitar easier to play, but that's about it.




Well,maybe I misunderstood it,but as much as I can see here,everybody here just picked "432" as ,well,something that repeats a lot,and when talking about alternative tuning,you do have to pick a number.

And unlike faxi which is sure that everybody besides him are all hippies here (probably because he has not read a single post here),if you read the posts,people talk about 432 just because this number is something that just happends to be there.Not because it is magic or opens some chackra or something.

Drop it to 417 or 410 or whatever,but the idea itself of playing with different tuning,is what worth exploring.Why? Well,for exampleit widens your transposition.In many music pieces there is a melody,and then this melody is repeated in different key,but preserving the same ratio.

This widens the transposition option from transposing from one key to other key,to transposing melody from one key to some tuning that doesn't even exist,because you using different frequencies but maintaining the ratio between notes.
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht

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Posted : Oct 26, 2013 23:13
what is funny, is that most orchestras that play with tuning, actually pitch it up, and not down

damn hippies!!!!!!!           
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jekvan
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Posted : Oct 26, 2013 23:31
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On 2013-10-26 22:02, faxinadu wrote:
now can we move past this nonsense?




Wow,you can quote wikipedia....That's it,you are the smartest person here, hands down. ohlololol trolololol .
Did you even read one post that people wrote here?           From all the things I lost,that sandwitch cost me most :)


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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht

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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 00:09
edit: fuck it. enjoy your crusade. and no i stopped reading your posts a while ago already


          
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wirakocha
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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 00:19
431.2 Hz give peace of mind           d(((+_-)))b
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht

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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 00:26
in fact jekvan, donno how smart i am, but you sure are not. especially in the earlier thread about this writing huge paragraphs of utter nonsense in psuedo-scientific fashion.

and i guess i quoted wikipedia cause it seems you never bothered to actually read up on actuall information on tuning and reasoning behind it, but rather post a bunch of sqaure root of water stuff making your music "more serious, more warmer" (your words).

sometimes i really don't get some of you guys. all this sqaure root of water stuff only to go and make the most generic and regular prog and fullon possible.(not talking about you nectarios before you jump all over me).

always looking for that shortcut. i'm sorry, but taking your music 8hz down does not qualify as thinking outside the box. keep making tunes


          
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jekvan
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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 00:52
Really?You want to go there?Ok.

Next time you wanna show everybody at someone else expence in your facebook how smart you are and write posts ,don't do it,because people get offended . Writing funny posts in your facebook wall about that hippy person,haha funny.Not so funny now.

Second,I study engineering in most toughest technical university in your own country .I understand it does not say much to you,but it excludes your paragraph about me being stupid.I started making music from scratch in just two years,while learning engineering and working night shifts.

Third,my major is control systems and signals,which is actually have a lot to do with what we talk about.That also means I can read your precious wikipedia pages,and a little bit more .

"Warmth" is a term from "mixing engineer handbook",Bobby Owsinski,describing certain spectrum range of lower frequencies,(along with fullness,brithness and so on to describe other frequencies).You can use google,google it.Maybe he is also a dumbass,olololo trololololo.
Yes,dropping something in pitch makes it more bassy,offsetting spectrum balance towardlower frequencies,making it more warm.

Then,I think you really don't want to read what people write here,here is what you can do :take it slowly and read ,and if you do not get it,reread again.

Finaly,think really hard next time about offending people.
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faxinadu
Faxi Nadu / Elmooht

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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 00:55
see that's the problem, you think cause you are learning science in school, you understand music.

fail

and one of the things i always told you when you came to our plug chat all boasting on your new tracks is to stay humble, which you don't. you make music two years as you yourself said, relax, take time to actually make some more of it before you take over the world. and all this nightshift working hard, you want a medal? i work nightshifts too. i have a friend who is a soldier in afghanistan and makes his music in the tent betweens shifts. we all sacrafice for music, and most of us for longer than you have, so FUCKING STFU honestly i stopped talking to you and caring what you think and interacting with you exactly because of this elitist mentality you have. you think you're some sort of prodigy? the gifted engineer?

if you get offended when people quote your idiotic things on facebook, well, don't post idiotic things <3

so before people start making popcorn, as usual here, i will let you have the last say, go ahead and stab me with your intelligent technical school smart educated guy stuff and i will shut up and take it like a man.
          
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wirakocha
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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 01:22




          d(((+_-)))b
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Mandari

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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 11:16
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On 2013-10-27 00:26, faxinadu wrote:

sometimes i really don't get some of you guys. all this sqaure root of water stuff only to go and make the most generic and regular prog and fullon possible.(not talking about you nectarios before you jump all over me).




actually most will suffer anyways cause they lack some education in musical theory. so never mind. they will be anyway way out of tune ^^

theres a lot to bare in mind, but any music will benefit of careful tuning. doesnt have to be 432hz though. like mentioned some posts before, you need to tune the intervals, which is quite some more pain in the ass than just going to global and changing the mastertune.

i can only recommend for anyone seriously interested stopping to bullshit around here and write barnim/akasha project an email with regarding questions. he will be pleased to answer.... at times that loki thread was up here, this helped me a lot to differ from this pseudohalfknown bullocks posted.

cheers           FUCK GENRES, LOVE MUSIC!!!!
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 11:37
Most of this 'hippy bullshit' that Moki has written in this respect is true. Different tunings create different moods and some of them are visible as more harmonic than others f.e. in the nature. Yes, the video with water is telling a lot. Maybe not a big deal, and it's possible to create great music in our temporary standard tuning, but other tunings most probably can cause more harmonic vibes in the air for our ears too.

ps how to change it in ableton? ..is there some global tuning settings change option like in logic?
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Mandari

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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 12:06
naahhhyeah, moki ^^ sorry...

anyways, yeah she got a very lot right of that bullshit and posted very lot of related things which was not all that hippibullocks. planetware site was very helpful to me and led me to discuss that stuff with barnim instead of takin anymore place in that "upset" discussion here that time...

been quite some help

as ableton geek i dunno about any global tuning setting. i used to set up the synths. open to any suggestions. didnt even know logic has. but been some time i worked with logic. ^^

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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 12:16
so working with f.e. operator does not make a big sense in this context I guess... which is pity for me.. one has to find synths that allow to change the tunings and stick to them.           https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
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Mandari

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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 12:29
any with finetuning option anywhere should do the job just fine.... i dont know any synth of nowadays without finetuning section at the osc or master.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Oct 27, 2013 12:37
ok.. so there is only positive value in operator in fine tune. also 0-1000 .. should be 100 cent a halfstep. So with +92 its one halfstep above your key and in the 432Hz tuning right. With negative values it would be much more simple, you could stay on your key. Nah, operator is not the tool for it for me.
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