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why "DARK"???!!!

phobium
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Posted : Jul 4, 2005 18:20
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error604
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Posted : Jul 4, 2005 19:11
i haven't come around to the forum in ages.....but this disrespectful tone by many of u to XP bothers me......

XP has worked hard in the goa scene....played many good parties.... he doesn't deserve to be dissed like this. Where is the PLUR?

there may be people on both sides - those who like him and those who don't.....but surely he has worked hard....that alone deserves some respect.

he is russian and his english is not the best....so pardon his inability to communicate his exact thoughts and try to understand his post before u dis it.

XP - trying to dig deeper - is the issue this?

If Dark is the real Psychedelic and Morning is the cheezy psy, are you upset that you are clubbed in with the "morning lot of Djs", even though you were originally in the "dark parasense" crew.

If that is so, then the choice you made is yours. Your personal taste leaned towards the morning side....or it made more financial sense.

paul van dyk/tiesto can't come around asking why ppl use the word psychedelic trance...all trance is trance....and psychedelic is a negative term....drugs and all that....

It is the Djs who create the "specialization" based on their personal tastes and segregate the crowd. Crowd that likes his taste, follows.....

Everybody likes to pretend that they are the real psychedelic ppl and therefore keep throwing the word "dark" around to make themseleves look like hardcore underground ppl.

next step - the morning Djs will further specialize into Dark Morning etc....cos everyone will hate the fluffiness... then it will become too expensive to hire Djs for every hour....then the market will return to the original.....

having one Dj who knows his night-time music and his morning set and crafts a beautiful story/journey in sync wth the crowd...and things will be back to a true psychedelic party...

fragmentation and then consolidation again...rules of the market.

perhaps this is what you meant.....this is what I understood.

Nikita:Penta
Penta

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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 17:51
I never liked the term Dark. I think Night Psychedelic should be preferred nomenclature. Although, some music by Grapes of Wrath, Digital Talk and Jahbo is really morning and they are considered Dark. So just "Psychedelic" is enough, I would say.

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a3k
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Posted : Jul 5, 2005 19:27
well i have reached the conclusion that when i am standing next 2 x.p. voodoo i canīt use the word dark 2 describe a sonority..it will hurt him kinda like kriptonite
i liked the reply from error604:

"If Dark is the real Psychedelic and Morning is the cheezy psy, are you upset that you are clubbed in with the "morning lot of Djs", even though you were originally in the "dark parasense" crew.

If that is so, then the choice you made is yours. Your personal taste leaned towards the morning side....or it made more financial sense. "

see u have the possibilitie 2 choose...so why canīt i use the word?just because u donīt think it will fit your standarts?man donīt worry and listen 2 some cool kdd tracks..night or dark what u prefer
see ya.          ...
jyxx
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Posted : Jul 7, 2005 10:57
The origin of the word "voodoo".

The word "voodoo" comes from African language called Ewe where vodu is the name of a specific demon or tutelary deity. Voodoo passed into American English by way of Louisiana Creole voudou. Very early in America, hoodoo came to mean 'jinx' or 'cast a spell on' as a noun and a verb: "Something hoodooed me out in the swamp last night. I think it was my ex-husband."

Eweians now has the right to sue DJ X.P. since he uses the word they invented           last.fm/user/jyxx/
dj X.P.
XP Voodoo
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Posted : Jul 7, 2005 17:49
to jyxx.They suted me.is name.I had to pay this guys moslty all what I win in a court when I suted Bill Geits for using word XP.
Not fare,but after they permited me to use voodoo name and I can get free updates for Windows,it is quite ok.
dj X.P.
XP Voodoo
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Posted : Jul 7, 2005 17:52
2 error604.Thanx for support,man.The only detail,that even beeng russian,my English is very correct and clear,so,generally I've written exactly what I meant.
Alternative control
Alternative Control

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Posted : Jul 7, 2005 19:36
Quote:

On 2005-07-07 17:49, dj X.P. wrote:
to jyxx.They suted me.is name.I had to pay this guys moslty all what I win in a court when I suted Bill Geits for using word XP.
Not fare,but after they permited me to use voodoo name and I can get free updates for Windows,it is quite ok.



HAHAHAHAHAHHAA this is super story .....one day XP u will tell me it
psyfactor
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Posted : Jul 16, 2005 02:22
its sounds like "I did it first!! now give me money for using it!"



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Posted : Jul 16, 2005 05:05



hi there i like your style very much ialso liked alot when you palyed at kapandriti a tiny club near athens the vibes were excelent keep up the good work
dj X.P.
XP Voodoo
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Posted : Jul 16, 2005 05:16
Oh,my god!Arrived Psyfactor!Check all replyes,you will understand that few people already had the same interpriation of my topic.
So ,I am telling you again,read the main topic once again.It is absolutely not sounds like Give me money.
It is more sounds like-Why all of you musicians,"night warriors" and tra ta ta an not breaktrough your imagination further that old and used term DARK,and where are the BRAINS to create new slang word for this type of music.
It was mentioned to be creative topic for this "DARK" side of the trance.
Actually,after all this replyes,I can sadly put down this topic a big fat line,and consider that the creative minds in this area are absent.
Nothing more than bites and spikes in my adress,and bullshit,covered by children nurds philosophy I didnt
find here,sorry ( exept very few parts)
Sorry
Try to search for creative people in other dimensions.
Buy buy,See you on the light side
AlphaQuadrant
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jul 16, 2005 21:46
iīm listening to "dark" music since 10 years or so...

dark wave, dark electro, dark metal....

and so i think a bit dark trance is welcome to me... i know of 3 artists that make sound i quite like: xenomorph, the delta and dark soho.

any other recommendations welcome...
kabooki_cat


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Posted : Jul 17, 2005 11:42
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On 2005-07-16 05:16, dj X.P. wrote:
It is more sounds like-Why all of you musicians,"night warriors" and tra ta ta an not breaktrough your imagination further that old and used term DARK,and where are the BRAINS to create new slang word for this type of music.



it also could be EVIL.


dark vs lite

is the WINE to your CHEESE.

punkrock!
Satyr
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Posted : Jul 17, 2005 17:28
as long as "it all sounds the same"
(basic variations on one theme, that is)
there is but one term to describe whatever style,
from progressive fluffy aerobics to dark industrial full on,
and that is: DISCO
          
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DennisTenaglia

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Posted : Jul 17, 2005 17:52
I don't call dark psy 'dark psy' I call it 'massacre psy', a new way, insn't it?
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