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Why aren't tracks more DJ-friendly?
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RK9
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Posted : Feb 21, 2009 03:34
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On 2009-02-19 15:17, Colin OOOD wrote:
Psy/Goa trance started off from the point of view of tracks as complete musical pieces rather than mixing tools, and this still applies in many ways
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In that case, why are DJs who don't beatmix looked down upon? |
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Feb 21, 2009 04:35
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In that case, why are DJs who don't beatmix looked down upon?
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That's an easily question, EGO....
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RK9
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Posted : Feb 22, 2009 05:04
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Honestly I think DJs who don't mix are being more respectful of the producers.
The whole "keep the beat going" argument falls flat on its face when the tracks have parts without beats in the middle anyway. So just play the tracks end to end as close as you can, as long as it sounds good.
Non-stop beats are for ravers and cokeheads  (disclaimer: I am a raver and on rare occasions a cokehead) |
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~d2~
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Posted : Feb 22, 2009 08:04
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On 2009-02-22 05:04, RK9 wrote:
Honestly I think DJs who don't mix are being more respectful of the producers.
The whole "keep the beat going" argument falls flat on its face when the tracks have parts without beats in the middle anyway. So just play the tracks end to end as close as you can, as long as it sounds good.
Non-stop beats are for ravers and cokeheads (disclaimer: I am a raver and on rare occasions a cokehead)
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Trance-dance as a meditation relies heavily upon repetitive beats. Too much stopping and starting will spoil that.
Thats with out any coke, k or MDMA 
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x-rayz
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Posted : Feb 22, 2009 12:47
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On 2009-02-22 05:04, RK9 wrote:
So just play the tracks end to end as close as you can, as long as it sounds good.
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I just hope ur joking cause that just aint right..
In the beggining goa used to be played on DATs, cause the dust in the woods would cover the record and tunrtables just couldnt be used.. Thats why artist like Astral projection dunno anything about beat-matching.. We also had forest parties and spin the music on normal rack cd players with no pitch and when they broke I pluged my 2 discmans to keep the music going and we all had a great time, nothing wrong with that..
But were 10 years from that now and since needles for turntables improved heavily u can easily mix on them under very heavy conditions.. So if we can, theres no reason not to beatmatch when its way better than mixing intros.. If people need a brake, theres climaxes and build ups in the track.. With beatmatching u create totally different tracks on the fly and u cant do that on discmans.. So why would we have fun we had 10 years ago when it can be so much better for us?
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Feb 22, 2009 14:12
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On 2009-02-22 05:04, RK9 wrote:
Honestly I think DJs who don't mix are being more respectful of the producers.
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I dont think youre booked to be respectful to anything but the dancefloor in the end
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Feb 23, 2009 23:27
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On 2009-02-22 12:47, x-rayz wrote:
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On 2009-02-22 05:04, RK9 wrote:
So just play the tracks end to end as close as you can, as long as it sounds good.
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I just hope ur joking cause that just aint right..
In the beggining goa used to be played on DATs, cause the dust in the woods would cover the record and tunrtables just couldnt be used.. Thats why artist like Astral projection dunno anything about beat-matching.. We also had forest parties and spin the music on normal rack cd players with no pitch and when they broke I pluged my 2 discmans to keep the music going and we all had a great time, nothing wrong with that..
But were 10 years from that now and since needles for turntables improved heavily u can easily mix on them under very heavy conditions.. So if we can, theres no reason not to beatmatch when its way better than mixing intros.. If people need a brake, theres climaxes and build ups in the track.. With beatmatching u create totally different tracks on the fly and u cant do that on discmans.. So why would we have fun we had 10 years ago when it can be so much better for us?
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I don't think he was joking and there is nothing wrong with it.. since we are so advanced with our gear whens the over all standards going to catch up? .. They are still back in those times with more ego today..
Anyone have any Dats to loan out? I'll make a mix with them and show its not the gear.. You can beatmatch on Dats.. Its harder and you must know your music. Also, some DJ's went to Dat with more reasons than just needle issues, a dj-friendly track is more noticeable for sure..
if the artist write music for laptop Dj's, just to catch up with the gear, why are they so perfectible and stay so formulaic?. The machine can fix that on the fly and skills will become a thing of the past..
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x-rayz
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Posted : Feb 24, 2009 00:44
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Feb 24, 2009 10:03
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On 2009-02-24 00:44, x-rayz wrote:
U can beatmatch on tapes too..
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Sweeeeet, I don't hear to many people bringing those days up to much
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x-rayz
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Posted : Feb 24, 2009 12:51
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Psynthex
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Posted : Feb 24, 2009 13:51
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This is a: Why aren't tracks more DJ-friendly? topic.. not a Serato or DATA one  Please open another one, which is more suitable to your conversation.
Thanks.. 
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Feb 24, 2009 14:42
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Why would anyone mix with dats or discmans when you have new technology no matter how friendly or not the tracks are? And how fun is it to play with tapes?
and btw, i dont think ppl played with dats in the past cuz of the dust in the woods, a better reason for that would be that it was easy to copy music and keep the quality like it is today with computers and internet. I dont think them hippies had a vinyl press in their backpocket...
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Psynthex
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Posted : Feb 24, 2009 15:06
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Posted : May 6, 2009 20:10
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FrodOhm
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Posted : May 8, 2009 10:59
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Editing other peoples work to make it fit ones set, is a shortcut to the overcoming a challenge.
Not to mention that doing so without permission ....well... Need i say more?
Why beatmatch what is beatunmatchable anyways
Timing is the key, and guess what...
It can be done without beatmixing!
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