Why aren't tracks more DJ-friendly?

On 2010-04-28 11:31, mubali wrote:
there's a lot of djs that feel that by beatmixing, they are destroying the journey of the tune. (I do not)

On 2009-02-14 18:20, disco hooligans wrote:
Dark trance DJs dont care about mixing tunes together. They just trainwreck the fuck out of everything, its the style and the whole breaking the rules thing.
Goa Gill does it all the time. He is the best DJ in the genre.

On 2009-02-14 14:38, ~d2~ wrote:
DJing isn't hard. With the tools that are available you shoudln't be complaining about DJ friendliness.

There are too many poor DJs. We need to start sorting this out.

I say ban anyone from DJing who complains about DJ friendliness.

On 2010-10-22 23:18, mudpeople wrote:
I think generally tracks are pretty friendly, with the breaks at the end of patterns to remind you when to start counting if need be, but lots of tracks' rhythms make it pretty easy to know where in the measures you are. Barring the occasional single-bar or -measure break its all 32 beats/pattern with something indicating the end of the 32 like percussion work or smth idk w/e.

Of course, there are exceptions, some styles, im thinking specifically of one proggy track, seem designed to throw off the 32-count if you're not paying attention. No indications of breaks between patterns, repeating single-bar percussion... But that means you just have to be that much more aware. Its almost like a challenge from the artists, tracks like that. Besides who wants to hear the same 32 beats with the same bass-note cut or kick fill at the end all the time?

Id say if you want dj-friendly, play house. That stuff, if you miss your count on THAT... Give your headphones to someone who can put them to real use and be content as a dancer/enthusiast.

IMO psytrance isn't meant to provide an easy mixing experience, but in my experience, if you pay enough attention, and the way I get energized while playing its hard not to dance out the count like a grinning fool.

And, to be fair I play 'darkpsy' and pay close attention to mixing, blending, matching beats and patterns, and when to drop in the next track entirely. I guess I come from a more mainstream-raver background, where djs are held to higher standards. Im a pretty harsh critic of myself. Ive heard some djs blend MAYBE 60 seconds of the 2 tracks together, usually dropping the next track in all forceful. I like it smooth, to EQ it in slowly, to ride the outgoing track til its energy starts to fade a bit, bringing in the high or mids of the incoming track so they mesh well with the outgoing. Sometimes its fun to blend low ends, sometimes you hear that cue, the 32-count ending indicator, of the incoming track and flop the low end from out to incoming one kick note before the beginning of the incoming track's pattern beginning, when the bass of the incoming track is cut out, and it sounds like the bass of the outgoing track is cut, or whatnot. Sometimes the incoming track has a break wiht no kick or a weird bass, something around 2 mins into it (I like to blend at least 2 mins), then you can just fade out the outgoing artfully and smoothly (i like to assume that anything i do to the mixer can be heard by the dancers so i try to make every EQ or volume fade smooth). I usually let the outgoing track continue at something like -3db through the next one with the high cut like 15-20%, bass cut completely, and mids MAYBE going full, maybe cut 5-10%. Or whatever. Its fun to try new things, new ways to blend tracks and smoothly bring in new ones. Its surprising to me that its common with psytrance, especially the harder stuff, to have djs who don't spend a lot of time actually mixing... Whatever though in honesty Ive had fun dancing to shit djs plenty. I just never wanted to be one.

And I have too much fun doing it my way.