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What happened to the real hippies from the 60s?
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Honguito
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 13:33
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I've recently opened my eyes up for psychedelic rock music from the 60s. I just love the psychdelic touch that electic guitars create in the tracks. Or the synth that "the doors" use... really psychedelic stuff! =)
Anyway... I've seen "last hippies standing" a couple of times and I just can't avoid smiling when I see it. What happened to all those people? I mean the real hardcore hippies who even moved to Goa in India and believed in a totally different perspective of life? Those people are in the age to actually be grandparents today. What are they up to now? Do they live like normal people but have this nostalgic view on their past? I don't believe they act and dress in the same way today. |
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deeplydisturbed
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 14:22
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how would you define a normal person?if being normal is merely being presentable to the rest of the world,then those people are in no way normal.normal is just being the person you really are and not giving 2 hoots bout what the rest of the world have to say! |
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 14:43
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They are moms, fathers, grandmothers, and grandfathers.. most of them still got the hippi spirit within them.. But Too many of them lost it to capitalism 
But they are among us still.. just keep an eye open, and you will spot them. When you spot them, stop them and ask them your question. 
And what is Normal.. ?
Why be infected when you can be normal? naaaaa...
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PKS
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 15:54
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What happened to all those people? I mean the real hardcore hippies who even moved to Goa in India and believed in a totally different perspective of life?
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The most hardcore died of overdoses. The others realised that they had the wrong perspective of life, cut their hair, got kids and a job. A couple of them discovered psytrance 20 years later and play a game called "how low can you go?"
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Honguito
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 15:57
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WHen I said "normal people" I meant the basic similarities when it comes to view on life, dressing, musictaste and so on. I mean, there is the mainstream more common way of living. And with that I mean the kind of life you live when you "perfectly" fit into the kind of lifestyle that society has wroten for us - the more mainstream and commercial way of living. Or you may call it the way you live if you fit smoothly in the consumption society. In the western societies, this is the most common way of living and the majority live like this.
And then there are alternative lifestyles. Which, if compared to the mainstream way of living, are represented by fewer people.
BUT, I know that what many people (and me) define as a "normal" lifestyle doesn't fulfil the pure and natural needs of the humans. People live and think the way they do today very much because we've been manipulated through the history. We human being created it through times but it doesn't has to mean it's the best way of living.
I could go on forever about this subject =) |
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Honguito
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 16:06
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The most hardcore died of overdoses. The others realised that they had the wrong perspective of life, cut their hair, got kids and a job. A couple of them discovered psytrance 20 years later and play a game called "how low can you go?"
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I think that what the hippies believed in was really beautiful. But their lifes seemed to contain too much of the drugs. It's destructive to do drugs that often. The hippies felt love to eachother and to mother earth. But who wouldn't while influenced by drugs?
I don't want to spread anti-drug propaganda. If people feel like doing drugs then it's up to them - I won't judge them. But a culture based on the psychdelic drugs just don't seem to be sustainable.
That's what I think...
I don't know why Goa in India lost it's hippiespirit. Too much drugs? Too much commercialism? Too much problem with the authorities? A comination of it all? It would be nice to know =) |
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Honguito
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 16:10
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On 2004-10-01 14:22, deeplydisturbed wrote:
how would you define a normal person?if being normal is merely being presentable to the rest of the world,then those people are in no way normal.normal is just being the person you really are and not giving 2 hoots bout what the rest of the world have to say!
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I really loved that post, deeplydisturbed !!! |
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Insomniac
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 16:23
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The most hardcore died of overdoses. The others realised that they had the wrong perspective of life, cut their hair, got kids and a job. A couple of them discovered psytrance 20 years later and play a game called "how low can you go?"
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So true man
One should always be in love. That is the reason one should never marry. |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 16:32
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But a culture based on the psychdelic drugs just don't seem to be sustainable.
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On the contrary the culture we are living in currently seem very unsustainable to me.
Most ancient cultures that at least lasted for thousands of years (ie shamanic & hethen) was very much centered around the holy sacrament of psychedelic plants.
Our culture is very young compared to most of them, and don't seem to last for a some thousand of years more. if you ask me.
The hippies didn't die of mushroom overdoses.
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I don't know why Goa in India lost it's hippiespirit. Too much drugs? Too much commercialism? Too much problem with the authorities? A comination of it all? It would be nice to know =)
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If you compare to most places the hippy spirit is fairly alive in goa still, but times changes everywhere.
The few real hippes that remains is only a small part of the visitors, and obviously the newer generation of party people coming there makes the place what it is now.
And nowadays everyone think hippies is useless thilthy junkies, so most people would not like to admit to any hippie ideals even if they would share them. |
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 16:34
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they have been converted in recycled bags |
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Spindrift
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 16:50
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And not all died of overdoses, or cut their hair or adjusted....a few examples of evolution we wouldn't have without hippes:
Montain bikes (originally made by ganja growers to reach their plants in remote locations)
Windows style operating systems (steve jobs and apple...yes he did cut his hair though)
Open source software (the most well paid programmers on the planet is full hippies, long hair and everything, working with linux and other open source projects)
Virtual Reality (didn't take off but still a cool idea)
And then all the regular hippie stuff about bullskit like the enviroment on the planet, recycling, organically produced food and awareness and respect about different cultures and belives, that definatly has come into the public awareness thanks to their work.
No, respect to the ones that went in to the stock market and worked to get commercialism to the glorious entity it is today..... |
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Honguito
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 17:05
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On the contrary the culture we are living in currently seem very unsustainable to me.
Most ancient cultures that at least lasted for thousands of years (ie shamanic & hethen) was very much centered around the holy sacrament of psychedelic plants.
Our culture is very young compared to most of them, and don't seem to last for a some thousand of years more. if you ask me.
The hippies didn't die of mushroom overdoses.
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First I want to say that i know very little about the ancient cultures like the shamanic and hethen. My guess would be that they lived far more isolated from other cultures. And cultures that doesn't get inluences from other cultures are obviously more sustainable. For me it seems like the hippiecultures had/have to fight for its exist in a totally different way. Think about a new born child in an ancient shamanic culture. Because of the isolation from other cultures they didn't know about other ways of living in the same kind of degree as the hippies did.
The hippies raised up in totally different conditions. They probably got fed up by their parents and the society about a certain way of living. But they were rebeelic enough to change a different lifestyle. The hippieculture had too much contact with the outside communities. They weren't isolated enough I think. And on top of that they took very much drugs.
As i said in the beginning of this post, I don't know much about the ancient cultures. But I don't think that the shamanic cultures took drugs as often as the hippies did. |
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mono mono
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 17:13
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Go to San Francisco, Northern California, and Oregon. They're all there it seems. You can smell the Patchouli in the air. They all drive green Volvos. They all do yoga. They all eat whole wheat bread, ONLY. They all drive soy milk. They all compost. They all have grown kids who use E. They all have stopped smoking pot 'cause it they don't need it anymore. They sometimes listen to Marianne Faithful but they really like Nora Jones too, not much time for music. But they do listen to National Public Radio's "All Things Considered" liberal news program. They all are going to vote for John Kerry, not because a good guy but because Bush is a bad guy. They are "not religious" but "spiritual" instead. They all work as marketing development people at a large healthcare corporation. "Oh, don't talk about african americans" they think but don't say.
Well, buddy, i'm an east coast, gun-toting, Philly trance-homey. Fuck dat shit.
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Mo' mon
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Spindrift
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 17:34
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Honguito:
That they where really isolated don't seem to be the case, there is a lot of evidence for cross-cultural interchange in pre-history.
Vikings for example was trading in both america and asia.
The indian hindu mythology seems to be strongly connected with the norse mythology historically, as well as sanscritic languages haveing some links with swedish language. Sann skrift means 'true writeing' in swedeish for example.
Sure hippes had much drug problems, all I'm saying is that I don't believe that psychedelic drugs destoyed the hippe culture, rather thats whats ignited it.
Smack, coke and speed is completly different substances, and was the drugs that made the hippie culture go downhill.
And mono....shouldn't you be called stereo, as in stereo-type instead |
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mono mono
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Posted : Oct 1, 2004 17:45
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I know but that 5.1 surround stuff is going to kill me.
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