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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 04:22
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this is a combination of a few threads that were open in the past all wrapped into one: ever get up in the morning and say to yourself: when is this lifestyle going to stop? when am i gonna say, enough is enough, with the loud music, the 4/4 beat, the excitement over wicked samples, the tingles from the effects, the childlike awe that i get when a good track is hitting me for the first time. I'm in my mid 20's and i see all around me people that are not in this lifestyle... often, i dont mind not being associated with them, but sometimes i wish i was not aware of psy-trance, kind of like ignorance is bliss type of deal... they seem to get their lives going on the average alot better... and when i say life going, i mean - starting the soceity dictated course of life (school, job, money, wife, 2.3 kids). The last thing i wanna say is that trancers are bums... i know a people that went to school, are getting married all under the warm umbrella of psy-trance. i dont want anyone to get me wrong. our lives are in constant specualtion from soceity, constantly having to explain that were not all drug users and that to everyone pretty much i come across... i sometimes get the feeling that if i crossover, and say goodbye to this scene, that "life" i was talking about will commence with much more ease. i dont know why, its like a state of mind that im now in... pondering when im finally going to get my sh#t together. sometimes this scene seems so childish to me, sometimes it seems to have so much more meaning then anything else... i just feel like im stepping in place, not moving forward, and maybe this lifestyle has something to do with it... the problem is i dont know what to listen to seriously now... if not trance then what? i define myself htrough the music i listen to - i cant start listening to frank sinatra seriously now i've exhausted my older collection and the music i grew up on... its like i dont mind being stuck in trance, because i know you cant force music change, it just comes, just like trance did the first time (and never left me). Feel like i wanna Surrender - any thoughts? |
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 04:51
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Transpotting - "Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television. Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers...choose DIY and wondering who fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on a couch watching mind-numbing, spirit crushing game shows, stuffing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the ned of it all, pishing your last in a misarable home, nothing more than a embarrasment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why do I want to do a thing like that?"
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 05:19
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shrOM nicely put but, let me remind you how those characters finished out:
Begbie - got f#cked over and lost all his money, plus he was a wanted criminal.
Sickboy - same deal, plus he was still a junkie.
Tommy - died alone of AIDS related illness.
Spud - well, he is Spud....
* Renton - left the life - he is just like normal people now, on the way to success with some cash in his pocket.
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 10:58
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"Youth is not a period of life.
It's a state of the spirit, it's the product of a will.
A quality of the imagination and an emotional intensity,
it's the victory of courage over shyness,
of adventure over comfort.
One doesn't grow older for having lived a number of years.
One gets older for having deserted an ideal.
Years will wrinkle the skin,
but giving up an ideal will wrinkle the soul.
Worries, doubts, fears and lack of hope are enemies
that slowly make us lean towards the ground
And we become dust before our death.
Young is the one who astounds and is fascinated.
The one who asks like an insatiable child: "what's next?"
The one that defies circumstances and finds joy in the game of life.
One is as young as one's faith.
And as old as one's doubts.
As young as one's self-trust.
As one's hope. And as old as one's dejection.
One remains young as long as one's receptive.
Receptive to all that is beautiful and all that is big.
Receptive to the messages of nature,
of man and of the infinite.
If sometime your heart is bitten by pessimism,
or gnawed by cynicism,
may God have mercy upon your old soul."
[1945 - Gal Douglas Mac Arthur]
Just enjoy life, Surrender and listen to your heart !
If PsyTrance brings ya goOd mOod, well, just enjoy it !!
AND NEVER FORGET THAT TRAINSPOTTING IS FICTION !! 
Life is not what is shown in cinema.
Peace !
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"Get your dose of BoOgie !"
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nova
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 14:44
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surrender...
please tell me... those ppl:
"they seem to get their lives going on the average alot better"
this is the advence that you're talkin' about? "average"?
tell me cause i cant see it!
let me tell you something.... PsyTrance is not my lifestyle. its not even close to be... also "pink floyd" are not my lifestyle... or any other music that im hearing... it is just a part in my life... its not about what you are listening to or who you work with or what you have... its about your prespective... its about your mind.
in my opinion advencing in life is not finding a good man and have a nice family and job, yes its something that i want and i will take part of it, but advencing is to fall inlove everyday... to see/hear/feel/smell something and be full with imotions.
now im still a child... and i have lots of going through but i hope that ill never loos that feeling of falling inlove... its not about finding something you like and stick with it cause with this way you'll say "where does it lead?"
its about expiriens things that you like everyday!
this is lifestyle!!!!!
i wish when i'll be old i could still have that "childish" excitment of discovering something new! like a new place! like a new ppl! like a new sunset! like a new song in the radio! like a new TRACK!
you are not stuck in trance! you are stuck in your mind! when you will be older... you'll miss that childish feeling.
you wanna be "average"?
tell me where dose it lead... you will feel the same feeling as you feel now...
trance is one of your adventures... and theres alote of adventures to going through.
dont try to change the music... change yourself.
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salvia_divinorum
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 14:59
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On 2003-06-19 05:19, Surrender wrote:
shrOM nicely put but, let me remind you how those characters finished out:
Begbie - got f#cked over and lost all his money, plus he was a wanted criminal.
Sickboy - same deal, plus he was still a junkie.
Tommy - died alone of AIDS related illness.
Spud - well, he is Spud....
* Renton - left the life - he is just like normal people now, on the way to success with some cash in his pocket.
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don't forget that's a movie, and in movies people who have lives that are accepted by society (ie normal boring lives) always end up good, while the others that try to escape it end bad... this way they try to induce people to live the lives they want us to...
I totally agree with shr0m, nova and KakoOlalaJwal, I much rather live a life not so restricted by society and with some fun than spend the rest of my days working 9 to 5, having a husband, kids, nice house, and not be happy at all.
When I dance, I put myself in the DJ's hands to take me to a journey - the unconscious journey to reality
KARKEIJA KREW!!!!!!!! dancing is the phrr fo da powa |
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 16:43
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i don't think that getting out of the trance "life" is something you can decide.
if you shouldn't be a trancer, you will just eventually quit the "life" (it sounds ganster-like, but you know what i'm talking about  ), not by a decision but by the circumstances.
i don't believe in fate. but in this case, if trance (both the music and the lifestlye) will not be the ideal thing for you, it wil just end by itself.
so stop thinking about it, and just flow. be dynamic.
you will feel when it will stop satisfying you!
gilad.
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 16:55
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Salvia, i never brought the movie example, shrOM did, i merely responded to it. I know what you guys are saying especially you nova. There is a small diffrence between us i guess... my personality type is such that when i do something, i do it fully, never half assed... so, psytrance for me is not a part of my life, it is my life. i wake up to it, i eat it, i dream it, i live it. i love this music, i love the lifestyle, i love the state of mind that i'm in, and i've become a better person because of it. thats not at all what i was saying - i'll try to sharpen my point then: i dont know if i can become a productive, self sufficent, full blown adult... ofcourse im speaking only for myself since others may be able to do it... Gilad now said it best, be dynamic - i like that.. Kako quoted Mac Arthur - i try not to live by statements they are usually too ideal for their own good... maybe i'll just float... |
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Zombi
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 17:18
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i know what r u talking about..
soon seems u will be a post-raver, listen to more experemental music with no violent attudute and have good drinks all around while tuching long legs
look for joy at places u didnt so far, find a fun into things u want to reach, teach yourself different behave, be real.
and one hint - less drugs will help ya alot:) even if u use very small doses. Believe your soul ! |
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nova
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 17:23
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fear is your only block... |
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Kaz
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 19:17
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try this on for size.
If you're not happy, you can always stand up, take all your things, and go somewhere else. If you'd be on the studies -> job -> 2.3 children path, you'd not have that option. I believe that when you look back, and see the things you've done in your life, and compare it to the normal life... you'll feel good about it. You know that you've obtained a freedom most people never get to know, and the question of 'was it worth it' is the one that counts.
I think it is.
... and hey, you can always do the studies, job, 2.3 children thingy or at least start doing it while enjoying the trance world as well.
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tom anteater
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 19:32
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... and hey, you can always do the studies, job, 2.3 children thingy or at least start doing it while enjoying the trance world as well.
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quite so
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nirvana
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 19:47
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I didn't quite get it - do you want to be like all the other "normal" people?
Do you think they are going anywhere, or even have a clue where they are right now?
Job, money, wife, kids is the easy part, to find a meaning in your life isn't.
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 20:08
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kaz, i agree with you that when i'll look back, i will have nothing but fond memories. i know our world is so much fuller then the average person that im sort in envy of. im just speaking for myself here, it seems like im running out of time to get my life on track if i keep this lifestyle going full throttle like it is now. my room looks like i just got there, or im about to leave (same apt for over a year) my personal possesion include trance related stuff (cd's, equip) and thats about it.... i have a computer, since im obviously a net geek. i love the scene, the greatest thing about it is the worst thing about it : its way out there.... hard to function for me in out of it... everyone is empty and shallow outside it seems... yet most of the people i know in the scene are not going anywhere. some are though, they are hope, im not sure i want to struggle so much though. i wanna start my life, i wanna have decent money, im not greedy, im not materialistic, i just want to live well.. i dont see how i can combine the two in a manner that satisfies both agendas.
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Cyber Punk
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 20:26
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Dear Surrender, beleive me, there is no problem at all to combine all those things. You don't need to give up one of them.
-=Lead System Designer=- |
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