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Kaz
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 21:42
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If I remember correctly, half of Tegma is happily working as an electronical engineer (hence the low amount of Tegma gigs compared to most acts). Then again, you get the people who have a small place outside of the city, with their studio and their music, and really aren't looking for anything else. And there are those who just decide "well, I want this to be my work... I'll open a label!"...
There are always choices. It's not one or the other, black or white - there are a lot of places in the middle in which maybe you'll find your place. I think it's more important finding the place in the world you're happy with and living that out than anything else. So, you might do the carreer thing for a while, see if it's for you, whatever. Stop searching when you find your place.
At the moment, I think my personal goal is clear - buying a piece of land on the beach close to Byron Bay, build a home and a studio (and a 'hidden garden', if you get my drift). That and a some good friends and a girl is how I'd define heaven on earth.
Not the 2.3 children and a high paying job with the yuppy cafes and the designer ties, also not the shit jobs, living from party to party, and swallowing/smoking everything that I come across.
You're presenting two extremes as the only options, but there's a big world out there, and everyone can find his place in it... if they bother looking.
... what was the topic again? I kinda got carried away with my optimistic memories of Australia 
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 22:32
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wise words kaz, i wont forget byron bay either, or nimbin or any of those places... dont forget to take some sunscreen lotion with you - spf 100, my vision is in N.Z come over to visit one day...  you can sit in my garden  |
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salvia_divinorum
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 22:36
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kaz, you're making me jealous. How I wish I could go to Australia...
and yes, I think it's perfectly possible to combine those two lives if you really want to... but first you should think about what you really want to do with your life, then do something to realize your dreams, and stop thinking if that's the right or wrong thing to do, just go with the flow and do whatever you can to feel happy, cause that's definitely the most important thing in life.
When I dance, I put myself in the DJ's hands to take me to a journey - the unconscious journey to reality
KARKEIJA KREW!!!!!!!! dancing is the phrr fo da powa |
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 22:36
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it seems Fight Club influenced kaz
"The things you own end up owning you" -Tyler Durden
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 22:40
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just go with the flow and do whatever you can to feel happy, cause that's definitely the most important thing in life
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this is probably what i aspire for my life to be. i try, but it's not always working.
gilad.
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salvia_divinorum
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 22:49
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this is becoming quite philosophical
When I dance, I put myself in the DJ's hands to take me to a journey - the unconscious journey to reality
KARKEIJA KREW!!!!!!!! dancing is the phrr fo da powa |
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Zombi
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 23:41
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On 2003-06-19 20:08, Surrender wrote:
its way out there.... hard to function for me in out of it... everyone is empty and shallow outside it seems... yet most of the people i know in the scene are not going anywhere. some are though, they are hope, im not sure i want to struggle so much though. i wanna start my life, i wanna have decent money, im not greedy, im not materialistic, i just want to live well.. i dont see how i can combine the two in a manner that satisfies both agendas.
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look m8, few years ago i used to take chemicals every week, twice a week, more better in short. i partied every week or twice a week, more better in short. after 4 years of that kind of "life" i got EXACTLY same feeling u have now. i felt it every saturday after i got home after a party. i felt it whole week, i looked around and wasnt able connect mtself to reality, completely. "normal"/"average" ppl looked like a dream for me, i felt i never will live my life and enjoy whole range of possibilities in it.
then in boom 2000 my best friend fucked up with his mind and got to mental clinic. i got that enough its enough. so one year i didnt chemicals at all. during this period i also didnt realy partied outdoors, i didnt missed any good event in tel aviv and thats all. i also got nice woman again, with no connection to trance.
its importent to say i was into searchs after new music inspirations, from 99`-00`, and progressive sound hooked me up, absolutely.
so, step by step i got that reality still love me and we can work together. its seems stupid for alot of goa fraks to co-operate with reality and suround, for me its very importent, i dont like to border myself.
meanwhile my family buesness got on my head only, but i was already ready for such thing, i wasnt anymore this fearfull freak, but i was me.
about music (that like in your case play at my life very serious part) - i opened my mind to every kind and style, it can be funky house or idm, glitch techno or psy trance, i like it all. so all like me
from last year i started work for my favorite israely label and also started djing, no more uncontroled feelings and sratim, thing i learned the most importent for me is - control. selfcontrol, selfsafication.
so thing i only can to say for cheer u up - step by step man, even rome was builded not in one weekend
and one more - progress in all aspects of your life, and its starts from music, or end there, or goes together.
and u r allways welcome here, pm me and come over for some beer Believe your soul ! |
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Ultra_FoX
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Posted : Jun 20, 2003 00:05
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The meaning of life is simpley to enjoy it and be happy.
How do you become happy? First of all you should always remember that happiness isnt a destenation but a way of travel. You should find out what is your most enjoyable thing and do it for the rest of your life.
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Hg
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Posted : Jun 20, 2003 00:48
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What a fine topic! Very nice posts. kaz, zombi, nova and surrender 
And afterall... "It's only after you loose everything that you are free to do anything" T.D aka you!
"Two roads diverged in a tree and I, I took the one less traveled by and it has made all the difference" R.F
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nova
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Posted : Jun 20, 2003 01:29
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On 2003-06-20 00:05, Ultra_FoX wrote:
You should find out what is your most enjoyable thing and do it for the rest of your life.
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or finding another thing... and another thing... and another thing...
its full of adventures... |
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Surrender
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Posted : Jun 20, 2003 18:23
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Thnx people, zombi - great stuff man. |
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full_on
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 05:58
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Awesome reading, thank you everyone, I needed to read something like that.
Respect!
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...Dance like nobody's watching...
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robomarket
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 06:50
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In reply to the initial post:
Yes. When? Or should i ask WHY? Why should I stay with this kind of life? Am i different than the rest of the people who party hard? Am i different for listening to different kind of music, having slightly different beliefs? Is the kid who listens to hip hop and dreams of fast cars with 22 inch rims on them, living the drug dealer lifestyle...is he better than me? Is that girl who thinks that this world consists of shopping for purses, shoes and expensive jewlery smarter than me for chosing her way of life? Is her rich boyfriend who doesn't work and spends his dad's dirty money better than me? Does he have more fun when he goes to his little club, thumping with some simple hard-house music laced with tender vocals? What is there better in all of this? THEY ALL probably get drunk or use substances more than the next guy.
There are things to do every day to make your life more interesting.
Monday night-jungle music.
Tuesday morning-school early in the morning. Tuesday night- Heading down to my friends college and going to parties and getting drunk. Wednesday-school in the morning and later in the night-mine and my friends' favourite bar with our favourite, our age, hot bartenders who give us free drinks. Home at 3 o clock.
Thursday-school. Studying and sleeping between classes. Home at 6 o' clock and than out again at 10.
Friday, Saturday- Club nights. Either day, doesn't matter. Saturday morning-Work. Sunday morning-work.
This is a very known pattern that has been repeating in my life. Summers are even worse. It's doing me no good.
I feel hungry, sleepless, tired and wrecked. But i am not going to continue doing this...right? Who knows? Well, who knows exept YOU!!? You determine your owm future. Yes, life is fun but it is a temptation. How am I resisting this temptation and do I really want to resist it?
Why else am i studying such a serious subject such as Political Science? How do i explain the sometimes immature and irresponsible behavior that i exhibit in my life?
I figure out that my life is pulling me in two tottally opposite directions. One is serious, responsible and noble and the other one is easygoing, fun and ...FUN!
When i am in my party mode i can go up to ANY girl in this world and start a conversation. I am fun, i am interesting, i make people laugh. I like to meet people, talk to them, learn about their ways, their culture, their origins. I like danger, randomness, and sloppy drunkedness and I like weed because it makes me smarter, it gives me motivation and energy to entertain crowds of people.
When i am in my SERIOUS, watching discovery channel, watching deep philosophical movies mode, than i am boring and serious and i don't feel that i am a fun person at all. I don't care If i am making a stunning impression, it doesn't matter if I have a nice shirt on or some lame geeky sweater on top of a black-collared shirt.
Isn't all this F'ed up?! But that is what life is-choices. And this is where people need an agenda formulated by some knowledge of philosophy and street smarts. I have found mine-MODERATION when it is necessary. Second: accept things the way they are for they all happen with a reason.
Can i become what i want to become and still live this nice culture of psytrance?
...everything is possible
Great topic Gadi! |
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robomarket
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 06:54
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they seem to get their lives going on the average alot better... and when i say life going, i mean - starting the soceity dictated course of life (school, job, money, wife, 2.3 kids). The last thing i wanna say is that trancers are bums... i know a people that went to school, are getting married all under the warm umbrella of psy-trance.
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AUCH! Yess, yes man, i know EXACTLY what you mean. But the family factor is IN you. I think that i will make a perfect father and raise well behaved children that will be better people than the children of some rich suit wearing, breafcase totin' new yorker yuppie. Or, to mix things up, better human than some Eastern European businessman thug in a tracksuit and gold around his neck.
You can continue to life a traditional lifestyle-wife and children--but of course, it will be spiced up with some modern cyber-punkist culture.
I get the feeling that lots of people who listen to psychedelic trance and live this way of lifestyle HAVE GOT NO CLUE ABOUT REAL LIFE. They claim and seem like they are well taught, peaceful, understanding, multicultural, openminded, friendly...but that is a reflection of the face that is hiding behind the mask of a liquid shaman dancing in some altered state of mind. There are egos and sub-egos. Science is only imporant when these people are bored. Reading is not necessary. Knowing what is going on in the world is not necessary. War is not necessary. Environmentalism? Psytrance stands for that right? Well you can be tuff on words and claim to love nature, but WHAT DO YOU DO to cure the nature? Do you shut off the lights in your house that are on without a cause? Do you waste water, waste food?
Do you see what i am trying to say? You become a better person if you find your way in the middle of everything. Ignorance is bliss, but it is also a cowardly way to hide from the real world.
We can be happy if we know how. I am a happy person regardless all the crazy shit that is going on in the world. Sometimes some sight or news fuck up my mood, but i take things the way they are.
And after all...we are only humans. |
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Outolintu
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Posted : Mar 3, 2006 10:18
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more topics and replies like these, thank you
i think the quote kako offered in the beginning (3rd or 4th reply) sums it up very nicely. it's not WHAT you're doing, it's HOW you're doing it.
"no one ever sweats on a plug-in" -moby |
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