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The year for Progressive

traveller
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 15:41
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On 2004-10-12 14:35, Lux wrote:
Prometheus' Robot-O-Chan is psy trance.




I know that. I said it in my review http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/25143/forum/9

But is't progressive aswell? I know it's not full on           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 15:53
It's post Simon school of psychedelic , most of UK producers do not produce fullon but psychedelic trance . He just produce intelligent music .Maybe i'm wrong in definitions but fullon is quick unintelligent psychedelic trance , so if i hear three stupid samples and two stupid melodies with filter , basic groove and ,melodic bassline done hundred of times i call it fullon other psychedelic .
Scorb , Dino Psaras , Prometheus , Manmademan , Shakta all psychedelic trance with their own touch like Shakta have progressive and drum and base touch in his music .
traveller
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 15:55
Sorry this is going a little offtopic but anyways maybe a mod can do a split if it's too much offtopic.

So you think psychedelic trance is just a genre like full on or progressive trance or tech trance or minimal trance or whatever?           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 16:04
i think it's stupid to iver complicate things !!
Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 16:05
Yes

Fullon
Psychedelic
Finnish Psychedelic
Tech Trance
Techno Minimal
Minimal Psychedelic
Progressive Trance
Minimal Progressive
Techno
Hardcore Psychedelic
Psychedelic Progressive Trance
Ambient
Chillout
Goa
....................Many of artists have two or three main genres together like Buzzmonx or old Ticon is Techno , Progressive Trance and Psychedelic Trance together .

So do not get into styles

sorry
Zombi
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 16:15
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omg i bet you would love it. do yourself a favour and try the samples atleat




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traveller
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 16:17
Ok..

the way I see it

there's psytrance which can be anything from minimal to full on and progressive to tech as long as it's psychedelic

goa is just the old name for psytrance

ambient/chill out have really nothing to do with psytrance

techno has absolutely nothing to do with psytrance

finnish psychedelic.. umm i wouldn't name the genre like that.. it actually has a name.. suomisaundi


no such thing as minimal progressive.. it's just minimal trance

techno minimal.. this has again nothing to do with psytrance.. it's techno

ah well.. who cares anyways
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Lux
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 16:28
Dimitri, old Ticon is not Techno, dude. Maybe as Tripticon, but not as Ticon...

Traveller, Prometheus is not full-on trance, it's just psychedelic trance, twisted rec style. Simple as that...

Come on people what's with all these categories? Get a grip! Listen to good music that you like to listen to and the rest is trivialities...

You know what's wrong now? In the old days there was not progressive trance, full-on or whatever you wanna call each style now.

There was only psychedelic trance, although there were tracks produced that were more proggy, or more full-on or darker. But all was psy-trance.

All of you people try to distinguish all these trivial details and you miss the big picture...that as long as you like what you listen to, the rest is not important.          Don't hope 2 much 4 something cause u may end up getting it...
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:14
i really really wish this style can grow whit time... i mean,... sometimes it seemed psytrance .... fullon are the only that it exist!!
and damn! progressive trance is so so so awesome music.... is just fantastic !!... and theres alot of people alot of artist working here, but need to be more wanted... as fullon.......!?!...... hmmm dunno

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Insomniac
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:22
I think progressive is growing and it will grow much more because people got tired of the same music (formula = full on).

What proggy needs now is better parties.
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traveller
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:37
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On 2004-10-12 16:28, Lux wrote:
Traveller, Prometheus is not full-on trance, it's just psychedelic trance, twisted rec style. Simple as that...




Doh, I just wrote that it's not full on for sure. What's this twisted records style you speak of? You mean the Unsual Suspects, Twisted Sessions vol.1, Younger Brother, Robot-O-Chan thingy? Granted those 4 bear some similarities in style but that's it really. The rest good 20 releases don't really sound that similar to them if you ask me.           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
- Larry Niven
Ron Lyner
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 17:40
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On 2004-10-12 02:14, Dimitri wrote:
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On 2004-10-12 00:43, Ron Lyner wrote:
new comadose cd from crotus rec...
you people should listen to this one..




I've heard one track of it and it's goin like bass , kick , hihat and three of FX all track .



well what do you need more than that ??
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 18:17
Ron , I need big speakers .

Lux
Ticon's groove based on techno , so it has techno touch also . I'm techno freak os i know what is techno groove . Trust me .

Traveller
Minimal Progressive is Commandos , Paste , Loom . It is not progressive because it not has any vibe just kick , bass , percussion and three FX .

Finnish Psy trance is different and it's sub genre in psychedelic because i can list here atleast 20 projects who produce same style like Pelinpala the inventors of it .
traveller
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 18:52
oh trust me i can list 40 finnish psy bands..

i'm just afraid i fall to the category who would call this genre "monkey on the keys"

but yes there are a few good finnish psy acts, even in the suomi style, but i don't really find them psychedelic at all


and what about loopus in fabula and the crazy ozzies? they create that kind of music aswell but aren't finnish..
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 12, 2004 19:04


Finnish psy it is a sub genre of psy trance , some Israelis , Australians and Danish produce it aswell . Loopus in Fabula(Italy) seems same genre . Funky psy if you like if finnish sound too nationalistic .
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