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The real problem of the scene today

psysnoopy


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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 08:53

from NextWorld link ^

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v409/WareWolf/English_Mother_Do_You_Speak_I.jpg

^ addressed by Mike A



Keep'em coming guys!!!
Basilisk
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 09:09
More?

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This Trinitix unit was produced by Holly A Shwartz (aka Holymen) and Shay Elmakies (aka Dynamic/Dynamo)

The music of Trinitix is powerful psychedelic full-on. The create sound and using new hi-technology like a matrix sound. The amazing album was produced an under the name is 'Aspeclaria'. And this album is collaborate with 'Hypersonic' 'Electro Nation'and remix of Eskimo's 'Inter Gyaractic'.

Holly is Pioneer of the Israel Trance who made until today 12artist album, under the name Dr Acid, X-Samurai, and of course the most famous is 'Holymen', who is released Sony, EMI, 100 or more compilation has been manufactured from the major music company until now.

DJ Shay is unfolding Liveact all over the world also as Dynamic and Dynamo.He is also released the album from various music companies.Now, he is one of the most powerful artists. And it is working also as a pro's sound engineer. He also has very abundant knowledge and experience to music. He is the young talent of the Israel Trans.

Their full album 'Aspeclaria' is the latest version. Unpublished music is also contained in this. This 'Matrix Sound' is powerful and is a visionary melody. These are the center of attention very much.



You can't indict the Japanese, they've cornered the market on this stuff... promo for the Slum album (a very good release I might add, and the tone of the text actually matches the contents of the CD quite well):

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SLUM, solo project by a Japanese trance scene's favorite, SHUJI. He is a member of PHI who appeared on the scene meteorically last year, acted as their pleases and now are on indefinite break. He starts again carrying his own project SLUM with thirst and desire for music. SLUM's debut album "PHINALIZER", came out last year, presented new sound of GOA TRANCE and the album was charted in the top 10 of DANCE/CLUB MUSIC selling chart at major CD store in Japan. The album also made worldwide success and still keep having wonderful sales as an Japanese-made trance album. With having the album, SLUM did tour in Europe and was praised highly in Portugal, Austria, Hungary, Czech, and former Yugoslavia.
SHUJI, the representative of TRANCE new generation, started listening Psychedelic Rock music when he was very young, then formed a PUNK/HARDCORE/EMO band and released CDs, and stepped in to PSY-TRANCE field. He travels all over the world and visits unexplored regions, holy places, ghettos, and refugee camps, and expresses what he sees and feels by TRANCE MUSIC. Yes, SLUM's music is for everybody, an anthem of life. Characterized by uplifting bass lines , aggressive riffs, and speedy sound, SLUM is often invited to big festivals- UP DOWN FESTIVAL in Portugal, EARTHCORE GLOBAL CARNIVAL in Australia etc. SLUM also contributed a track on the various album "FAR EAST PSYTRANCE LEAGUE 2005" which was compiled by DJ TSUYOSHI and was released this summer. SLUM, having a possibility for great future of Japanese trance scene, must keep on evolving.
"Everything never can't stop us, dude!"

*GORE is not GOA. The sound of SLUM is HARD. The animal rushes with the fang and thrust externals are called GORE. "HARDGORE" is suitable slang for the description of the sound of SLUM.



Kino Oko FTW:

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Horns & Hoofs proudly presents, nex upcoming, brave release!

listen now! because KINOKO is speaknig to u....

"I want to put in trance more music, more fun and focus on harmony and feelings bounded with it. i feel that music now is overloaded by complicated rhythm, production is more important than music itself. wrong in my opinion is attitude to trans now: many details mean good music. Finnaly you have over-detailed track without main concept. i want to be detailed enough to make interesting track but at the beginning i start with main idea. this is right order for me. i don’t want to make another "boom, boom, crash" album with mega weird sounds from another space and full of turbo giga breakdown with voices from bloody coffin. even i don’t want mega super cleaver intelligent puzzle music with brilliant rhythm section.... i want to make good produced album when music there is on position no1!"

no comments needed - wait for him in december!



(But of course, this is part of their charm!)
Mike A
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 10:39
example?

ok:

Quote:

hi
i'm d.g tetrium ,gadi aviv from israel
me firsrt albom is come out in septeber 2004 by phonokol records
and me second album is aut in October 2007 by limitspace-records
, more traks is come out anrelease in few different labals like "tip record", "goa trance", "3D Vision" and
more
if you want more info hear a link-http://www.myspace.com/tetriume
i have more now traks with a now sound, and i not sign any labal at the momant
so if you interesting to booking me to party or take out any one of me now traks to collection or even do the
secend albom please contact with me in the e-mail -tetium@015.net.il
my m.s.n is tetrium@hotmail.co.il

i hope to hear from you soon
thanks d.g tetrium




No offense to Gadi. It's just that something achieves exactly the opposite - I'm sure less people will want to book him now.


Quote:

I agree, with reservations... surely proper spelling and grammar is a mark of professionalism, but some listeners might find it reduces underground credibility to have things picture perfect (not that I would agree).


There's a limit to how far it can go.
Besides, on teh internets there is the important factor of tldr:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TLDR
headyatail2000
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 12:27
Quote:

On 2007-11-28 00:53, Mike A wrote:
"D.j Mike A Is Very Famus In Israel Partys And Is Braking Dance Flors All Over The World"



you sound likee Borat!!!

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rebel


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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 12:28
i also want to lean hinglishh.. hehe




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Hagenith
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 13:49
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vegetal
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 14:56
Quote:

On 2007-11-28 10:39, Mike A wrote:
example?

ok:

Quote:

hi
i'm d.g tetrium ,gadi aviv from israel
me firsrt albom is come out in septeber 2004 by phonokol records
and me second album is aut in October 2007 by limitspace-records
, more traks is come out anrelease in few different labals like "tip record", "goa trance", "3D Vision" and
more
if you want more info hear a link-http://www.myspace.com/tetriume
i have more now traks with a now sound, and i not sign any labal at the momant
so if you interesting to booking me to party or take out any one of me now traks to collection or even do the
secend albom please contact with me in the e-mail -tetium@015.net.il
my m.s.n is tetrium@hotmail.co.il

i hope to hear from you soon
thanks d.g tetrium




No offense to Gadi. It's just that something achieves exactly the opposite - I'm sure less people will want to book him now.



As i started to read the first page of this thread the mail mentioned above instantly came to mind
Do i have to mention that his mail-adress is now attached to my spamfilter           Demand recognition for the Armenian genocide 1915
http://www.devilsmindrecords.org/
http://www.myspace.com/vegetalmusic
http://www.checkpoint-music.com/
SGDesigns
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 15:23


Fair enough.....the language in some of the promos is shockingly hillarious.

In the process lets not forget that some of these labels and artists produce quality music. I guess its only fair to say not to judge the music they produce by the poor english / grammar etc....

Yeah its true the text does not portray professionalism in terms of marketing the product itself but it doesnt necessarily mean the music sucks as well

On the other hand, at least non-english speaking countries are trying hard to promote their product in the english speaking world. Think about it, would you be inclined to buy a product / cd with broken, bad grammatical english or a language that you wouldnt understand at all?

Probably some food for thought!!

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KINO OKO
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 16:31
Quote:

On 2007-11-28 09:09, Basilisk wrote:
More?

Kino Oko FTW:

Quote:
Horns & Hoofs proudly presents, nex upcoming, brave release!

listen now! because KINOKO is speaknig to u....

"I want to put in trance more music, more fun and focus on harmony and feelings bounded with it. i feel that music now is overloaded by complicated rhythm, production is more important than music itself. wrong in my opinion is attitude to trans now: many details mean good music. Finnaly you have over-detailed track without main concept. i want to be detailed enough to make interesting track but at the beginning i start with main idea. this is right order for me. i don’t want to make another "boom, boom, crash" album with mega weird sounds from another space and full of turbo giga breakdown with voices from bloody coffin. even i don’t want mega super cleaver intelligent puzzle music with brilliant rhythm section.... i want to make good produced album when music there is on position no1!"

no comments needed - wait for him in december!



(But of course, this is part of their charm!)




perfect!

no doubts this is what i said but in polish someone translated it somehow somwhere but you cant say its not funny, at least its true:

"i don’t want to make another "boom, boom, crash" album with mega weird sounds from another space and full of turbo giga breakdown with voices from bloody coffin"

who wants to record such album?

and yes, sure. some time ago i was lame in english. was hard to express complex points of view that i usually have, especially in music. but better have a thought and problems with expresion then dont have toughts and problems to say it

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Forest dreams
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 17:04
Quote:

On 2007-11-28 15:23, SGDesigns wrote:


Fair enough.....the language in some of the promos is shockingly hillarious.

In the process lets not forget that some of these labels and artists produce quality music. I guess its only fair to say not to judge the music they produce by the poor english / grammar etc....

Yeah its true the text does not portray professionalism in terms of marketing the product itself but it doesnt necessarily mean the music sucks as well



+1

whats the difference, maybe they don't have english grammar as an important subject in school, or maybe they never went to school.. that does not mean i wouldnt want to try the music itself. They are artists, and not writers.
but yeah... some of the shit on this thread is pathetic and may be there can be some third party that can do the marketing for these artists who cant seem to even construct a sentence.
          Nothing is said that has not been said before.
Riton
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 17:15
I've always wondered about all these typos in promos, but also in menus and shit...
That basically tells people "hey! I know nobody who likes me enough to proofread my shit! Chances are i really suck!"           "I went to Goa and all i got was this lousy superiority complex."
Outolintu
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 20:14
aah, i thought this was just one of the many whining threads but the examples really saved my day. golden material! from now on i highly recommend that only japanese freaks will be allowed to write promo texts or that atleast three different guys do it with one creating the overall structure, the second inserting adjectives at random without previous knowledge of the subject and the third finally re-editing the whole story in a classy cut up , mix and glue together style


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Soul Kontakt
Soul Kontakt

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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 20:42
Lots od spelling mistakes , lots of bullshit, and no fricken music this is the problem today!
Elad
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 21:01
ai em de best di gay in israel of 2007 years
rili breik de densflor yu beter trai it aut
sori of bed inglish ai em not finish skul bat dis forum of israeli trans not ev ibru rum!!

realy if it is israeli trance forum i would think its very usefull to have tiny spot for friends who never learned english properly.. there is place for books but not hebrew speaking trancers.. weird-ish
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Zman
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Posted : Nov 28, 2007 21:04
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