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TrippyJohnny
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u can end up in a mental hospital lol mdma hmmm possbily u can overdose on some fake chemical pills
wow... mdma... mental hospital... lol
thats news to me...loosin it on mdma...
hahahaaaa...
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No you can not loose it on MDMA but you can die from dehydration because you forget to drink water. It's happened.
And you can indeed end up in a psychiatric Hospital after using MDMA. Not as an effect og paranoia etc. But because of heavy depression. It is a well-known and reported result after doing MDMA. |
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Acidhive
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If you people would actually take the time to inspect what drugs do to your body and what influence they can have on the brain (something simple as one XTC pill can still bring about a chemical imbalance in the brain a year later) then you would think twice about stuffing yourself with 'em. I say: people that need drugs to appreciate or enhance certain experiences aren't really 'alive' to begin with. A bold statement, yes. And one I stand by.
 "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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Acidhive
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On 2006-07-17 01:13, psynite wrote:
all u psy baba rem one thing
"LSD is my state of mind muzik is my drug"
n im sure this applies 2 all u psy heads 2
i haven been 2 ny psy parties without a trip EVER!!!!!but now im in dxb dunno if ill get trips here so plannin 2 do somethin new let my mind open up completely 2 the muzik
usually when u at a party u busy lookin for trips or findin out wats goin on instead it would be great 2 jus focus primarly on the muzik since we there for the gatherin n not jus to do drugs we can trip in our own 4 walls its not necessary we need 2 others we can enjoy the muzik alone but company makes it all the more sweeter cause after all
SHARING IS CARING
thats wats trance is bout meetin new ppl sharin a common experience so this wed my first sober psy party so wish me luck...........
COPA'S ready or not here i come
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Jesus man, you taking drugs even reflects in the way you can't form coherent sentences, or even words. And quit talking bullshit, it's starting to smell here. I have never taken drugs to enjoy psytrance or enhance the experience. So you can't say every psyhead (stupid name) has done the same thing. Contrary to what some people might have told you, drugs are bad for you. You behaving so strangely reflects perfectly what long term usage of LSD is capable of: "The drug experience sometimes spurs long-term or even permanent changes in a user's personality and life perspective."
In your case, hell, it's probably talking bullshit. But hey, blame the drugs, not the user right?? Wrong.
"Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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shamanizer
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I hate to repeat myself, but it is too general to talk about drugs. What is the drug/drugs we are talking about in here (right, i know, we shouldnt be talking about drugs in here, but i understand it in the concept of psychedelic music, which ultimately and without exceptions has something to do with psychedelic substances, whether u like it or not)? I would categorize psychedelics to completely another group compared to recreational party drugs. And not all psychedelics should be consumed. And yea, even psychedelics have serious dangers, but on the other hand what doesn't. One just needs to be very careful and know what to do. Ranting that drugs are bad doesnt do the trick, ranting that drugs are good doesnt do it either, choose the golden mean. Beware and be aware.
To the topic, no, I dont need any substances to enjoy a party, but yea, certain substances do enhance the party experience. It is possibly to reach trance states without any substances, but its remarkably harder and requires much concentration and training.
@Acidhive "Usage of LSD is capable of: "The drug experience sometimes spurs long-term or even permanent changes in a user's personality and life perspective.""
See, just a thought, have u ever considered that this change might be positive just as well as it could be negative. And no, I'm not promoting acid, just a thought, ok. |
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Nobita
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Posted : Jul 17, 2006 13:53
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On 2006-07-17 11:54, Acidhive wrote:
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On 2006-07-17 01:13, psynite wrote:
all u psy baba rem one thing
"LSD is my state of mind muzik is my drug"
n im sure this applies 2 all u psy heads 2
i haven been 2 ny psy parties without a trip EVER!!!!!but now im in dxb dunno if ill get trips here so plannin 2 do somethin new let my mind open up completely 2 the muzik
usually when u at a party u busy lookin for trips or findin out wats goin on instead it would be great 2 jus focus primarly on the muzik since we there for the gatherin n not jus to do drugs we can trip in our own 4 walls its not necessary we need 2 others we can enjoy the muzik alone but company makes it all the more sweeter cause after all
SHARING IS CARING
thats wats trance is bout meetin new ppl sharin a common experience so this wed my first sober psy party so wish me luck...........
COPA'S ready or not here i come
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Jesus man, you taking drugs even reflects in the way you can't form coherent sentences, or even words. And quit talking bullshit, it's starting to smell here. I have never taken drugs to enjoy psytrance or enhance the experience. So you can't say every psyhead (stupid name) has done the same thing. Contrary to what some people might have told you, drugs are bad for you. You behaving so strangely reflects perfectly what long term usage of LSD is capable of: "The drug experience sometimes spurs long-term or even permanent changes in a user's personality and life perspective."
In your case, hell, it's probably talking bullshit. But hey, blame the drugs, not the user right?? Wrong.
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Woah dude, lay off the sobriety look how cranky it's making you! 
Row row row your boats gently down the stream; merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream. |
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jul 17, 2006 14:51
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On 2006-07-17 12:12, shamanizer wrote:
I hate to repeat myself, but it is too general to talk about drugs. What is the drug/drugs we are talking about in here (right, i know, we shouldnt be talking about drugs in here, but i understand it in the concept of psychedelic music, which ultimately and without exceptions has something to do with psychedelic substances, whether u like it or not)? I would categorize psychedelics to completely another group compared to recreational party drugs. And not all psychedelics should be consumed. And yea, even psychedelics have serious dangers, but on the other hand what doesn't. One just needs to be very careful and know what to do. Ranting that drugs are bad doesnt do the trick, ranting that drugs are good doesnt do it either, choose the golden mean. Beware and be aware.
To the topic, no, I dont need any substances to enjoy a party, but yea, certain substances do enhance the party experience. It is possibly to reach trance states without any substances, but its remarkably harder and requires much concentration and training.
@Acidhive "Usage of LSD is capable of: "The drug experience sometimes spurs long-term or even permanent changes in a user's personality and life perspective.""
See, just a thought, have u ever considered that this change might be positive just as well as it could be negative. And no, I'm not promoting acid, just a thought, ok.
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I'm not willing to try it, because I don't like the effects, ok? Same as with cigarettes, I don't smoke and I don't drink either. Does it make me a pussy? No, it makes me someone who cares about his body and likes to be in control of things.
"Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jul 17, 2006 14:53
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On 2006-07-17 13:53, Nobita wrote:
Woah dude, lay off the sobriety look how cranky it's making you!
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Hehehe, I'm not cranky. Believe me, if you think this is cranky, than you wouldn't want to see me cranky.
"Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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Gopendragon
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ooh,not again!!
..and story is repeating again n again...
Everything needs moderation,and surely is not bad to have a little taste from everything,just for the experience,just to have an idea.
Just a few hallucinogenic experiences,with some monthly empty non-drug spaces between is needed,just to let the mind bring the ballance between sober and stoned,and not get completely burned.
does cannabis and beers counts?
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what about all those psy tracks we listen with voices saying llllll ssssss dddd,or much other messages about drugs on them?
ther is a killa combination here...
taste it and enjoy it ,but then u have to pay the price...
the music or the drug?
it depends also in the users mind,some can handle it,some other cant.
some have the drug inside them pure,some other need an experience just to find the microcosmic point inside them and activate it...we are different... ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jul 17, 2006 17:11
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On 2006-07-17 15:56, Gopendra wrote:
ooh,not again!!
..and story is repeating again n again...
Everything needs moderation,and surely is not bad to have a little taste from everything,just for the experience,just to have an idea.
Just a few hallucinogenic experiences,with some monthly empty non-drug spaces between is needed,just to let the mind bring the ballance between sober and stoned,and not get completely burned.
does cannabis and beers counts?
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what about all those psy tracks we listen with voices saying llllll ssssss dddd,or much other messages about drugs on them?
ther is a killa combination here...
taste it and enjoy it ,but then u have to pay the price...
the music or the drug?
it depends also in the users mind,some can handle it,some other cant.
some have the drug inside them pure,some other need an experience just to find the microcosmic point inside them and activate it...we are different...
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Hey, Mr. Clueless, just because music tells you things, do you do it? Imagine what would happen when people who listened to deathmetal would do that? That'd be a nice world!!
Hey, you know what? I'll follow your advice. Putting on: "Mummified in Barbed Wire" now from Cannibal Corpse. And hey, because you said it I better do what the lyrics say (because you have to experience everything at least once, right?) Check this: (you better hide man)
"Wrap the wire round the neck,
pull it tight to suffocate
His mouth is spewing steaming blood
Hang the body with a cord, gag his mouth
with shards of steel
He doesn't know the pain he'll feel
Interwoven deadly spikes, tightening cables
lacerate
Assorted gashes open wide
Ruptured veins are gushing blood, scraps of
skin are flying off
The body of the helpless prey"
etc. etc.
Hey, I like these lyrics, and gagging someone with barbed wire is really fun!! Yeah!!!
Ok, now serious: No. I wouldn't do that. You don't do everything songs tell you, that's just stupid. Some things you don't have to experience and it's all about choice. I choose not to do drugs, even though some of the songs are full of drugspropaganda. It's still your choice. And your reasoning for having to have tried everything at least once doesn't go far either, as I so obviously explained with my example. I love some Cannibal Corpse now and again, but I'd never do what their lyrics say obviously.
"Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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Soul Kontakt
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Posted : Jul 17, 2006 17:12
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The combination of both is simpky the best in my opinion...Music without the drug is different than music with the drug...With the drug it's fully connected, without is partly connected this is the difference in my opinion! People who never experience drugs cannot say which is the best combination because they do not have an idea of what it is to be on drugs, only people who have experienced both can really answer this question and also it's just another view that's all there are many!
Enjoy
Boom :)
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shamanizer
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Posted : Jul 17, 2006 17:51
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On 2006-07-17 14:51, Acidhive wrote:
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On 2006-07-17 12:12, shamanizer wrote:
I hate to repeat myself, but it is too general to talk about drugs. What is the drug/drugs we are talking about in here (right, i know, we shouldnt be talking about drugs in here, but i understand it in the concept of psychedelic music, which ultimately and without exceptions has something to do with psychedelic substances, whether u like it or not)? I would categorize psychedelics to completely another group compared to recreational party drugs. And not all psychedelics should be consumed. And yea, even psychedelics have serious dangers, but on the other hand what doesn't. One just needs to be very careful and know what to do. Ranting that drugs are bad doesnt do the trick, ranting that drugs are good doesnt do it either, choose the golden mean. Beware and be aware.
To the topic, no, I dont need any substances to enjoy a party, but yea, certain substances do enhance the party experience. It is possibly to reach trance states without any substances, but its remarkably harder and requires much concentration and training.
@Acidhive "Usage of LSD is capable of: "The drug experience sometimes spurs long-term or even permanent changes in a user's personality and life perspective.""
See, just a thought, have u ever considered that this change might be positive just as well as it could be negative. And no, I'm not promoting acid, just a thought, ok.
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I'm not willing to try it, because I don't like the effects, ok? Same as with cigarettes, I don't smoke and I don't drink either. Does it make me a pussy? No, it makes me someone who cares about his body and likes to be in control of things.
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Right on mate, I guess u didnt quite get the message, nobodys calling u a pussy, in fact it takes much courage and effort to stay constantly sober and nobodys pushing u to try drugs, not even psychedelic ones. However, how do u think u know the effects of psychedelics if u never touched them, imho its impossible to understand this issue if u have never tried them, so please, do not condemn people who want to attain that very understanding. P's. |
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jul 17, 2006 18:19
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On 2006-07-17 17:11, Acidhive wrote:
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On 2006-07-17 15:56, Gopendra wrote:
ooh,not again!!
..and story is repeating again n again...
Everything needs moderation,and surely is not bad to have a little taste from everything,just for the experience,just to have an idea.
Just a few hallucinogenic experiences,with some monthly empty non-drug spaces between is needed,just to let the mind bring the ballance between sober and stoned,and not get completely burned.
does cannabis and beers counts?
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what about all those psy tracks we listen with voices saying llllll ssssss dddd,or much other messages about drugs on them?
ther is a killa combination here...
taste it and enjoy it ,but then u have to pay the price...
the music or the drug?
it depends also in the users mind,some can handle it,some other cant.
some have the drug inside them pure,some other need an experience just to find the microcosmic point inside them and activate it...we are different...
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Hey, Mr. Clueless, just because music tells you things, do you do it? Imagine what would happen when people who listened to deathmetal would do that? That'd be a nice world!!
Hey, you know what? I'll follow your advice. Putting on: "Mummified in Barbed Wire" now from Cannibal Corpse. And hey, because you said it I better do what the lyrics say (because you have to experience everything at least once, right?) Check this: (you better hide man)
"Wrap the wire round the neck,
pull it tight to suffocate
His mouth is spewing steaming blood
Hang the body with a cord, gag his mouth
with shards of steel
He doesn't know the pain he'll feel
Interwoven deadly spikes, tightening cables
lacerate
Assorted gashes open wide
Ruptured veins are gushing blood, scraps of
skin are flying off
The body of the helpless prey"
etc. etc.
Hey, I like these lyrics, and gagging someone with barbed wire is really fun!! Yeah!!!
Ok, now serious: No. I wouldn't do that. You don't do everything songs tell you, that's just stupid. Some things you don't have to experience and it's all about choice. I choose not to do drugs, even though some of the songs are full of drugspropaganda. It's still your choice. And your reasoning for having to have tried everything at least once doesn't go far either, as I so obviously explained with my example. I love some Cannibal Corpse now and again, but I'd never do what their lyrics say obviously.
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hey bro what an awaesome lyrics,I m sure u like carcass also,they kick asses... 
grind gore is massive music bro..
but surely I would never listen to cannibal corpse on acid...
when psy music have such as messages means a lot of things that better keep my mouth close...
just only one experience bro activates areas in ur mind that u would never do it without the substance,then is up to ur mind to keep that higher point of listening with ur ears opened for 3d dimensiuonal hear with the electronic sounds...
then a few spliefs or a few beers 4 me and the ls runns through my veins,u dont need to take acid each time u listen psy,but u need once at least in ur life to make ur mind listen trance deeper...
but after one use sure u would love to do it again n again n again,and thats the problem here...so moderation is the key...if u r strong to keep ur self away for a month or 2 or 3 or even 6 months it would be more better for ur braincells...
the healing way is with one dose,not with overdoses...
lsd is making a cleansing in the body bro,it burns each dirty block inside if u do it once a few months,but as I said before that depends on the mind and we are different...maybe a few like u acidchive dont need drugs,they have them inside them
so no need to use,keep it like this pure way is more safe and sure...but for me is different..we are not the same..
so drug at least once,and then listen as much times u want without the drug,is my opinion,that means that you dont have to do any thing I say ;-)
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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On 2006-07-15 11:52, Soul Kontakt wrote:
For me it's the music and the Acid combined, of course i understand what people mean when they say they do not need drugs to get into the music but you cannot compare the experiences as one is Surreal and the other is real...I prefer both
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Best answer. And Krell, i'm alittle bit chocket. I thought you where like. Me, never ever gonna touch it.
I saw Juno Reactor live this week (a couple of hours before, I was in the police station on shrooms. But they let me go because of plur) And when I arrived, I noticed a change in the shroom. I was perfectly normal, or sober. (cop station got that effect) BUT still, it was surreal. No visual ect. Just an amence feeling of oneness with the african Juno tribe. .. Anyway. I agree with Ganjagil. I also prefer both. But I'm more then 50% sober ... Soooo.. I DO prefer surreal, since it happends less then sober. see?
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fregle
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On 2006-07-15 02:18, membrain_cell wrote:
how much energy can you send without d***.....? physically we tend to tire down..... any solutions of survival for long energy or anythign related......???????
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ur mistaking here, like lot's of people... Drugs do not give u more energy, only food gives u more energy... What drugs do is - depending on the drug - make u use all the energy, or make sure u don't feel tired...
Let's take amphetamines (speed and XTC). It doesn't give u more energy... The only thing it does physically is enhance the speed at which ur body operates (so in fact it is burning more energy at a faster rate), and it stops the flow of milky acid (dunno how it's called exactly, but this is a literal translation of my language). Milky acid is the acid that makes ur muscles feel tired, and it kicks in when ur muscles don't get enough oxigen anymore to operate normally... After a while it gets painfull and u rest to get the muscles aired up again... On amphetamines this doesn't happen, and u can use up ur energy completely without tiring out (this is not good, because in fact ur forcing ur muscles to operate while they don't get enough oxigen, in effect 'eating' ur muscles)... That's all it does... Once u know that u know u can go thru an entire party without amphetamines, but that u just have to ignore the pain as long as possible, and then rest for a while... When ur energy is depleted u'll know because resting doesn't help anymore, then u have to eat... If u would take amphetamines at that moment, it wouldn't help u, because u depleted ur energy... It's because it stops the flow of milky acids that it was so popular in professional sports for so long... |
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On 2006-07-17 18:33, psytones wrote:
I also prefer both. But I'm more then 50% sober ... Soooo.. I DO prefer surreal, since it happends less then sober. see?
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Good point kire-naj. You so smart. Where did you study?
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