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Babaluma
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Posted : Mar 19, 2013 21:07
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On 2013-03-19 15:03, klippel wrote:
although maybe somewhat offtopic i must admit the latter atc speakers look total shit.. for that price i want them to look sexual. taste and that but i would need to hide them, lol..



well, there's no accounting for taste! have you actually heard a pair? quite a few people seem to like them:

http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/client-list/acoustic-electronics-engineers/

(click the different categories on the left hand side).

i love my 20's, they look like darth vader's head, and are solid metal (30kg per piece).





i must admit i do prefer their look to their bigger siblings though!

but the sound is to die for, seriously!
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klippel
Stereofeld

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Posted : Mar 20, 2013 08:24
i am sure the sound is the tits mate. and i quite dig the style/look of your speakers! but the bigger ones are just ugly. ( they have that in common with quite a large number of larger systems for pro use, so don´t get me wrong) i am just saying, why not put a littlelittle into the looks, ey?

of course i know i wouldn´t bother if i listen to them for a second
listening to the most ugly speaker and falling in love with its sound can make it looks sexy after all. i mean we are just men, we fall easily for the singing of the Sirens, right?           http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
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Babaluma
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Posted : Mar 20, 2013 10:51
indeed! don't think the big ones look ugly, but do think my little ones look so much nicer, so agree the visual design could be improved.           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
DJ Shpondra
Ruberoid

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Posted : May 3, 2014 11:07
KRK VXT 6 is the ultimate monitors for darkpsy /psygressive sound. Very deep bass           _________
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : May 7, 2014 13:19
Manger MSMc1 ultimate monitors for everything (studio).
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loki
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Posted : May 8, 2014 21:57
Rocking a brand new pair of Barefoot MM27s here.

In my treated room, fantastic.



Low-end extension is smooth as butter down to about 35hz by my ears (though my square room still has a ~40hz hump of about 4db, even with 268 square ft coverage of traps and absorption 4" or 6" thick. So when making songs in double-low Eb, E, or F I just have to be careful.)

Actual frequency response: 40hz-40khz (+/- 1db), 30hz-45khz (+/- 3db).

They have taken almost 100% of the guesswork out of the lows/low-mids.

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Babaluma
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Posted : May 8, 2014 23:59
I'm saving for an ATC sub at the moment. It's 60kg and 1000w of undistorted pure sound, flat down to 30Hz (+/- 2dB), extends to below 20 (+/- 6dB), and all that at 118dB SPL in the room. Apparently your ear drums will distort before it does! Will be perfect partner for my ATC mains. Hopefully in the autumn if the workload keeps up.

http://www.funky-junk.com/atc-scm0-1-12-pro-12-active-sub-bass/           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
xoC
Cubic Spline

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Posted : May 12, 2014 11:32
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On 2013-03-05 11:12, Babaluma wrote:
the higher end pmcs are fantastic speakers.




I can only agree with that I would kill to hear their new prototypes, the 4x10 :




It's using the new DSP and PMC amps, each side packs a whopping 4825w, with 1Kw being directed to each of the bass drivers alone.
You could use it as a PA system I think

About ATC, you could also go the DIY route to keep prices down. A friend of mine is building the Wilmslow audio K100 Kit, which is an ATC allowed kit for a SCM100 clone, passive.

He did, on my advice, only ask for the mid/high crossover in passive, and will be amping them with some Hypex dual channel amps with integrated DSP crossover, to get the woofer controlled in a active way. We will measure them, tweak the low crossover until it's right, beginning with the original ATC curve.

For now he only has build the cabinets, since ATC is slow to deliver the woofer and the midrange driver, but I will keep you in touch about the sound
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smoker
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Posted : May 12, 2014 11:52
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About ATC, you could also go the DIY route to keep prices down. A friend of mine is building the Wilmslow audio K100 Kit, which is an ATC allowed kit for a SCM100 clone, passive.



+1
ATC Not worth the 13,000$........

when you want to put a lot money on MT you can easy
Build it even not building by yourself just buying the parts
and give some electronic guy to do it for you


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Cubic Spline

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Posted : May 12, 2014 13:15
Quote:

On 2014-05-12 11:52, smoker wrote:
Quote:

About ATC, you could also go the DIY route to keep prices down. A friend of mine is building the Wilmslow audio K100 Kit, which is an ATC allowed kit for a SCM100 clone, passive.



+1
ATC Not worth the 13,000$........

when you want to put a lot money on MT you can easy
Build it even not building by yourself just buying the parts
and give some electronic guy to do it for you






Yes, but keep in mind that in doing that, you can't do what's most expensive in high-end audio : buy/build A LOT, and only select matched parts with tight tolerances. You can't do that in DIY without spending a crazy lot of money, and that's a lot to do with what they make you pay for !

For example, if one inductor of the crossover of one of my PMC dies (which is unlikely to happen), by sending them the serial number of the speaker, they can tell me this inductor measured that way, with that tolerance, and send me an exact match to not unbalance my stereo pair. Tracking, measuring and keeping records of all parts used in every speakers that gets out of the factory costs money too.
And that is the kind of service and attention you want when you buy uber expensive speakers, that are your work tool, and you rely on them professionally everyday. If something goes wrong, you are 100% sure to get an exact replacement. And when you see that PMC now gives a 20 years (!) warranty, you can sleep in peace at night

I think there the same attention to details on ATC side. That, plus distributor and sellers mark-up, and you get crazy expensive !          http://www.storm-mastering.com
smoker
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Posted : May 12, 2014 17:22
yep that's what i mean buy just the same part's
as ATC and build it it's really really easy


btw your PMC is really really expensive on my country they cost around 120$ k/g (120,000)

and sound amazing i listing them on musical shop

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Babaluma
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Posted : May 12, 2014 21:42
You can't just buy the ATC parts, as they won't sell them to you. The Wilmslow Audio kits (or even ATCs own SMC25A Pro's) do not come with the special SL drivers, which is where ATC excel in many people's estimation.

Some of us think they are worth the money. I've never heard a more transparent mid range in my life, and that's often what you need for mastering and translation, as that's where most of the information lies. Of course for recording and mixing there are other considerations. But at the end of the day, at this end of the market, they are all blindingly good speakers, and it really just comes down to personal taste!

Been very happy with ATC service too. One woofer started going strange, and they replaced it free of charge in a timely fashion (you only get a six year warranty, but it is transferable!)

Looking forward to getting the new Paris studio set up and integrating the sub!           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
xoC
Cubic Spline

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Posts :  179
Posted : May 12, 2014 22:48
Quote:

On 2014-05-12 21:42, Babaluma wrote:
You can't just buy the ATC parts, as they won't sell them to you. The Wilmslow Audio kits (or even ATCs own SMC25A Pro's) do not come with the special SL drivers, which is where ATC excel in many people's estimation.

Some of us think they are worth the money. I've never heard a more transparent mid range in my life, and that's often what you need for mastering and translation, as that's where most of the information lies. Of course for recording and mixing there are other considerations. But at the end of the day, at this end of the market, they are all blindingly good speakers, and it really just comes down to personal taste!

Been very happy with ATC service too. One woofer started going strange, and they replaced it free of charge in a timely fashion (you only get a six year warranty, but it is transferable!)

Looking forward to getting the new Paris studio set up and integrating the sub!




Yes of course. The kit is also with the normal (91 dB sensitivy) midrange instead of the "super" (94 dB). I still think, if you are not able to go with the real deal, the 3500€ it gets you to build a K100 stereo kit + hypex amp is a great deal nonetheless, if you are able to put in a bit of work in the build.           http://www.storm-mastering.com
Babaluma
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Posted : May 13, 2014 11:32
Yep, am sure it will sound amazing, and looking forward to hearing what you think of them! Will probably hit you up with a PM after we move to Paris, as I'd like to pick your brains about room treatment!           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
Babaluma
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Posted : May 13, 2014 11:34
PS: How are you liking the Crookwood converters? They were a huge step up for me. I have a custom M1.           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
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