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diskOtek
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 02:51
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what's cheep is expensive in the and
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this is soooooo real! 
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Wanka Tanka
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 04:52
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On 2006-01-25 13:04, Adrenal Mode wrote:
M Audio cards are cheep and what's cheep is expensive in the and
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Ho!
sorry for insisting in this, but probably cuz of my ignorance in this subject...why is that ? This brand have a bad historical side that I dont know ? For sure a RME or Motu or Echo are better cards..but for my budget I should consider M-audio too...do you guys think I will regret it ?
This specific card (delta 66)it's a bad choice? Why ? Unstable drivers ? Conflits ? The breakout box..dont worth? Noise in the I/O's ? As time goes..the card lost any caracters ?
please enlight me I'm very confused
peace
ps: does any one knows something about the Maya 1010 from audiotrak ?
thanks
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Adrenal Mode
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 13:49
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I dont know about Delta66 but I use to work with M-Audio card (delta24/96) 4,5 years ago and sometime's i have crash's with my driver, this card produce very disterbing noise's, but if that your budget so buy it i'm just saying that RME is the BEST card for clean recording and safe working.
its all depend on you how much you can spend on your setup coz in the and of the day you will move to RME like evry body else that expiriance with M-Audio card's
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Aviad
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Posted : Jan 26, 2006 23:46
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M-Audio does it's job well if you not some sort of perfectionist then it can do even the job on high professional levels. Some report problems with inputs while recording, some do think that sound card which costs more probably is better. I don't know really i use one of these and happy with it. |
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Mike A
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Posted : Feb 10, 2006 01:49
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My M-Audio works just fine. Dunno what's wrong with your unit.
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Fingax
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Posted : Feb 10, 2006 07:11
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On 2006-01-18 20:58, tdme wrote:
Hello 2 u all. I am a user of RME hammerfall multiface.
till now i had no need for a mic.
now i need a simple one for voip calls, msn etc.
My comp. is for my general use and my music mashine - so i ask if anyone can guide me how to connect a simple 10$ mic to my pro s.card, or if it is possible to have my pro s.card and the simple on board s.card active at the same time.
much thanks to all who try to answer me..
Guy.
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hello
i also use RME very nice sound card but it dosnt have pre amps and thats what you need to amplify the signal of the mic before he gets into the sound card. if you have a cheap mic go for a cheap mic pre amps like beheringer stuff but then you get the cheap quality..
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Freeflow
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Posted : Feb 10, 2006 19:03
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i have a question...
the Rme Multiface II has 24bit/96khz analog input/outputs
but i see most of the new soundcards today has 24bit/192khz
is it better to get a card that has this specs than to get a 24bit/96khz?
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texmex
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Posted : Feb 11, 2006 01:14
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New Era Scientist, they probably have 192khz because it is nowaday as cost effective to produce as 96khz. And it is a great selling point, 192 is bigger number than 96 
You really gain little from 192khz. You can't hear the difference even between 48 and 96khz. For processing the bigger khz is always better, but it also takes more cpu and harddisk. To make use of it you'd need to run VST's in 192khz which is 4 times more processing than with 48khz. Difference between 96 and 192 in terms of quality is probably insignificant. I wouldn't make my choices based on 192 khz.
I think the next logical step is to start using 32bit floating point AD/DA... Farewell to digital clipping, maybe? |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Feb 11, 2006 03:49
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On 2006-02-11 01:14, texmex wrote:
New Era Scientist, they probably have 192khz because it is nowaday as cost effective to produce as 96khz. And it is a great selling point, 192 is bigger number than 96
You really gain little from 192khz. You can't hear the difference even between 48 and 96khz. For processing the bigger khz is always better, but it also takes more cpu and harddisk. To make use of it you'd need to run VST's in 192khz which is 4 times more processing than with 48khz. Difference between 96 and 192 in terms of quality is probably insignificant. I wouldn't make my choices based on 192 khz.
I think the next logical step is to start using 32bit floating point AD/DA... Farewell to digital clipping, maybe?
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Thanka man
im pretty keen on the multiface II cause im thinking of travling some and i want to have a good soundcard with a laptop.. and i also want a good soundcard for my homestudio...
32bit floating point AD/DA would probably be great.. still sounds expensive 
i thought of also waiting till they release something new.. but i dont know, its so expensive in the begining of new soundcards... i need to start making music before i die...
again thanks for your input, just what i needed... |
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texmex
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Posted : Feb 11, 2006 15:16
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On 2006-02-11 03:49, New Era Scientist wrote:
Thanka man
im pretty keen on the multiface II cause im thinking of travling some and i want to have a good soundcard with a laptop.. and i also want a good soundcard for my homestudio...
32bit floating point AD/DA would probably be great.. still sounds expensive
i thought of also waiting till they release something new.. but i dont know, its so expensive in the begining of new soundcards... i need to start making music before i die...
again thanks for your input, just what i needed...
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Yeah, np.
I'd go for firewire device with plenty of inputs. If you're on budget, maybe something from M-Audio or Hercules.
http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_artikel-174788.html
I haven't seen Hercules in action, but it sure seems pretty amazing for the price |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Feb 12, 2006 13:49
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texmex - that Hercules looks nice, lots of stuff for that price.
Im not on a strict budget, i got some money to spend on a good card....
but its a hard choice...
im not sure about firewire, got no experience with it, i read it has its downs and its not as fast as Pci.
i think my problem is that i dont really know what i want except for a few things... like many balanced analog inputs and outputs
and i know i will need to connect some mics, and i dont plan to use my little behringer Ub802 for recording cause i think its noisy...at least with many things hooked up to it.
but still i manage to record some decent stuff when using a gate on the recording channel to take away some noise...
i dont want to make a quick choice for something i plan to use for some years...
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texmex
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Posted : Feb 12, 2006 16:30
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yeah, but pci is dying, you know? Modern mobos don't have but 2-3 pci slots. And to be able to hook up it to a laptop you'd need a pcmcia card.
I have a phase88 firewire and no issues with it. I can easily record all 8 channels at the same time. It works with laptops as well.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Feb 13, 2006 20:35
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Thanks texmex, i didnt know... that was bad to hear, then maybe i should go for firewire..i have to investigate this.
hehe.... things dont get any easier i notice
ill look at some firewire cards... but then you recommend firewire 800?
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texmex
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Posted : Feb 13, 2006 22:09
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New Era Scientist, i guess it depends on the number of channels you need and if there is other devices like hard disks in the firewire chain. If you have fw soundcard and hard disk in same chain, you might get problems with the bandwidth. Of course fw 800 helps. But I have no experience of that...
But investigate as you said and share your knowledge with us |
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Freeflow
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Posted : Feb 14, 2006 19:28
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in two weeks i will have some time for investigation, i will harass my local music shop...
and tell you all what i came up with...
again thanks for your help texmex
now it got hungry on tacos... damn  |
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