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Tweek


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Posted : Aug 21, 2006 21:04
Yes, the synth (and mic, I forgot to mention) are connected to the Alesis..

But.. The whole point of the thing was exactly that how can I affect the quality of the rendering, shouldn't I buy a card, to handle the rendering?

Since I figure the AC97 chip ain't gonna bag it any further, with serious production.

Latencies are not really an issue. I use Live 5 for my main seq, and even if the MIDI timing is slightly off, I can render the relevant tracks to audio and correct them with Lives powerful warping. Besides there is no significant latencies anyway in my setup.
texmex


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Posted : Aug 25, 2006 13:34
If you're not happy with the quality of the rendering, it could be because of the vst's or skill (sorry!) not your soundcard unless is total crap thus making monitoring impossible. It's a bit same as with image manipulation. A shiny new 3D card is not going to make your photoshop run any better, the images however might look a bit better.

Then there are dsp cards (maybe you meant this?) which are used to boost the audio processing itself (and thus the rendering). Think them as a extra CPU's. The plugins that run on them are usually more high quality because the dsp processors are dedicated to audio processing and there is a lot more cpu power to use.

But as I said, when rendering completely on CPU the soundcard does not have anything to do with the output. It all happens inside your computer Only after you playback the result in winamp it goes through your soundcard. And if you're using the Alesis only, AC97 has no role in your setup. Hope this makes a bit more sense...
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Posted : Aug 25, 2006 18:53
cubase n cubase
acidkills
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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 11:50
What is the lowest latency for Sound blaster live!?
Tweek


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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 09:28
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On 2006-08-25 13:34, texmex wrote:
If you're not happy with the quality of the rendering, it could be because of the vst's or skill (sorry!) not your soundcard unless is total crap thus making monitoring impossible. It's a bit same as with image manipulation. A shiny new 3D card is not going to make your photoshop run any better, the images however might look a bit better.

Then there are dsp cards (maybe you meant this?) which are used to boost the audio processing itself (and thus the rendering). Think them as a extra CPU's. The plugins that run on them are usually more high quality because the dsp processors are dedicated to audio processing and there is a lot more cpu power to use.

But as I said, when rendering completely on CPU the soundcard does not have anything to do with the output. It all happens inside your computer Only after you playback the result in winamp it goes through your soundcard. And if you're using the Alesis only, AC97 has no role in your setup. Hope this makes a bit more sense...



Yeah, I actually understood what you wrote about the CPU right after I posted the post before this one.. I think I should never post anything on the forums when baked..

And thank you btw, you actually did clear thingfs up for me quite a bit.

I realized it wasn't about the card so I went digging into my seq's rendering options and voila, there it was. The settings were set to completely inferior quality, and I actually never thought of them before now.

I've studied some digital audio at, what you call it in english... The Polytechnic of Tampere, so I know stuff about mixing and sound itself, but the fact that the CPU handles all the rendering wass completely new to me! I think I should bombard my teacher with E-mails concerning this subject.

But anyway, thanks a lot, you certainly cleared things up for me!
kajola
Kajola

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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 18:04
hey there knobwinders..
what do you think of this card? has enybody read a test about it?
http://www.tcelectronic.com/Default.asp?Id=7618&LcId=en-us

greetings
Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Sep 4, 2006 23:33
^^^
Too early for reviews i guess..Seems like a solid piece of gear though, dsp effects must be neat!
bandarlog
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Posted : Sep 8, 2006 01:32
Hi people! What do the experts here say on the Emagic EMI 2|6 usb card? Its purpose would be low latency (perhaps using synths) live performance using 6 outs with a laptop.
gill
Melorix

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Posted : Sep 8, 2006 02:53
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On 2006-08-30 11:50, acidkills wrote:
What is the lowest latency for Sound blaster live!?



hey I have that too
Airi


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Posted : Sep 9, 2006 20:04
hello

I am thinking about buying. "m-audio firewire audiophile".

does anybody have experiences?

thank you
bandarlog
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Posted : Sep 9, 2006 20:40
I have the m-audio firewire audiophile and it doesn't work properly... it switches itself off around 30 mins. I'm not the only one with this problem. There'll be lots of people where it works like a charm but speaking from my own experience I can't say I'm happy about it (hence my post above... looking for another external soundcard).
Airi


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Posted : Sep 10, 2006 02:23
umm :-/

there is also one called "solo" version, think it will do the trick?

Airi


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Posted : Sep 10, 2006 03:06
no sorry, and thanks
Bone_Flute


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Posted : Sep 11, 2006 12:59
I use the realtek AC'97 with
the www.asio4all.de driver
(The low budget version of making musik)!
Get-a-fix
Getafix

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Posted : Sep 11, 2006 21:57
Quote:

On 2006-09-08 01:32, bandarlog wrote:
Hi people! What do the experts here say on the Emagic EMI 2|6 usb card? Its purpose would be low latency (perhaps using synths) live performance using 6 outs with a laptop.




If you're going to be using it with a laptop i would suggest getting a firewire card instead of usb..

What's your budget? I can suggest you some accordingly..
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