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orange
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 17:48
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On 2006-07-27 05:43, Hypersubject wrote:
If anyone here has a Toshiba laptop (especially the Satellite series) with WinXP....
...do you have a working soundcard and if so, what is it? I've resorted to asking this question as it seems pretty hard to find a good answer any other way.
I use Reason and Live, and I want to be able to play live gigs, hopefully soon.
The M-Audio FireWire Audiophile I tried has failed terribly, so I want to know if there are any other brands/models around that definitely work well with this setup.
I'm really not that picky on sound quality as so far I've only used the cards that came with my past computers. I just want somthing that WORKS!
Thanks for any help, it's much appreciated!!
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i have a toshiba satellite m60-182 and i use a terratec phase x24 fw and works great!
whats ur issue?
orange
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Get-a-fix
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 18:42
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On 2006-07-27 05:43, Hypersubject wrote:
If anyone here has a Toshiba laptop (especially the Satellite series) with WinXP....
...do you have a working soundcard and if so, what is it? I've resorted to asking this question as it seems pretty hard to find a good answer any other way.
I use Reason and Live, and I want to be able to play live gigs, hopefully soon.
The M-Audio FireWire Audiophile I tried has failed terribly, so I want to know if there are any other brands/models around that definitely work well with this setup.
I'm really not that picky on sound quality as so far I've only used the cards that came with my past computers. I just want somthing that WORKS!
Thanks for any help, it's much appreciated!!
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I would recommend the Presonus firebox..I read tons of reviews & did a lot of research before getting it & never read one bad comment about it..Its not too expensive has great preamps & works out of the box..A good option if you're looking for a dependable firewire card..
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oldskool
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Posted : Jul 28, 2006 18:33
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its not for laptop is it?
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Hypersubject
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Posted : Aug 2, 2006 09:31
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On 2006-07-28 18:33, oldskool wrote:
its not for laptop is it?
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Yeah it is. I took up S-Cube's advice (thanks!) and bought the Presonus Firebox... but am still getting the same problem!! Ahhhhhhhhhh
Just sent an email to PreSonus tech support (hopefully they're not as useless as M-Audio tech support) and I'll make sure I mention the solution on here if there is one. |
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piXan
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Posted : Aug 2, 2006 11:46
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hey guys once again i tell u:
firewire is no good for pc laptops, specially if u have a small firewire port that cant power the unit!
i had to sell two (audiophile and fw 410) and got really frustrated. i recommend u get a pcmia card instead. they are WAY more reliable. i have now a echo indigo dj i use for live act, using sofware as Ableton, Reason and heavy vsts like Discovery, Albino, Minimonsta and large audio files. it may look like a cheap piece of plastic but it has never let me down, even when performing live with loads of instruments and effects (vst). of course u may want more outputs or inputs, if ure using external gear for ur live. so check out emu 1616m pcmia , has loads of in.outs, preamps, dsp accelerated fx, excellent converters, is a professional card in all sense for laps. im getting that when i get a job! but dont understmate the power of pcmia hehe, its sure better than going for usb. sure firewire is cool as hell but for some crappy reason, pc laps have been left out. if someone has a pc laptop running a firewire device with good performance, please let me know ur specs!
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orange
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Posted : Aug 2, 2006 18:17
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mine is working great in 2 different laptops!
audio card - terratec phase x24fw
1-p4 2.8 with 1g ram and a non powered small firewire connector
2 - pentium m760 2,0ghz with 1gram and non powered small firewire connector
i can get the buffer to 256 samples with no problem at all, lower settings though can cause some clicks and pops in heavy projects!
ive use it in flstudio and cubase and ableton live
orange
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kajola
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Allegoric - Psynce
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hey guys i'm planning to buy a midi controller and a sound card but sumone told me abt m-audio ozonic 37 keys midi controller which has an in built sound card which can be used for playback as well so can u guys tell me abt this controller tht will it be a gud idea to buy it or i should go for behrringer cheaper one with which they give an extra sound card with the controller.... plz pm me guys help me...
thnx
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acidkills
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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 18:31
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OK people.. I need u to choose. So most popular soundcard as I see it are:
• FireWire 1814
• FireWire 410
• FireWire Audiophile
• FireWire Solo
• Ozonic
• Audiophile 192
• Audiophile 2496
• Delta 1010
• Delta 1010LT
• Delta 66
• Delta 44
• Black Box
• Ozone®*
• Mobile Pre USB
• Fast Track™ USB
• Transit®
• Marian Marc 4 midi
And my choices are this:
• Delta 1010LT
• Audiophile 192
• Audiophile 2496.
• Marian Marc 4 midi
Till now I have 2 soundcards, some 5.1 Holywood or something shitty like that.. That was good for mixing and production when I tweaked my computer to its best performance.. But now when I bought synth I need MIDI IN/OUT PCI card.. So what do u think about choices I made, which is the best?? Will it serve me good?
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Get-a-fix
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Posted : Aug 16, 2006 22:01
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Do you work for m-audio dude?!
I've had bad experiences with m-audio (Audiohphile) so i would go for something more stable..My firewire choices according to different budgets:
Cheapest: Presonus firebox,
Medium budget: Motu Ultralite
Happy for life: RME Fireface 400
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First off, hi everyone! Been lurking around here reading for a while, but just now decided I needed to join this amazing community!
So, I actually had a question too...
My setup ATM is:
PC AMD Athlon XP 2600+
512 memory (yes I know, I'm upgrading my setup as soon as I have the money)
Alesis IO2 Audio interface
M-Audio Midisport 2 x 2 MIDI interface
CME UF 5 keyboard
Novation Nova
I know there's a lot irrelevant stuff in the list above, but. My setup ATM concists of only one HW synth and a load of VST:s, but I'm going to buy one or two more of HW synths in very nearby future.
I am also looking for a new soundcard.
The question is as follows.
People here seem to talk about audio interfaces as soundcards. Is it so? Because ATM when I'm making a track, it sound fabulous when monitored through the Alesis (it REALLY sounds great) but when I render the track the quality is significantly lower. I figured it is because the "soundcard" of my PC is the basic AC97. I never needed a quality soundcard before since I've been just messing around for a couple of years, but now I'm getting more seriously into producing.
Wow I'm getting off the question.... So. Basically. Does the interface act as a soundcard or would it be good to buy a PCI card. Cause the way I understand it is, the soundcard processes the sound thus affecting the quality.
Please enlighten me on this one!
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acidkills
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Posted : Aug 17, 2006 11:23
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On 2006-08-16 22:01, S-Cube wrote:
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Do you work for m-audio dude?!
I've had bad experiences with m-audio (Audiohphile) so i would go for something more stable..My firewire choices according to different budgets:
Cheapest: Presonus firebox,
Medium budget: Motu Ultralite
Happy for life: RME Fireface 400
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Can u specify ecsactly what bad experiances did u have? I planing to buy
Audiophile 192 although its expensive than
Audiophile 2496.. Fireface is hot but it costs a fortune.. I have money for 192 max.. so.. Some people recommended me audiophile so I want your opinion also..
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Get-a-fix
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Posted : Aug 18, 2006 23:45
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^^^
I had the firewire audiophile & i had problems like glitches in the sound, bad latency etc..On top of that you can't hotwire it so you have to shut your laptop down, plug it in & restart it again..Maybe it was my setup but i've heard tons of other people having the same problems..
I guess you're buying a pci card though? Maybe that's more stable..
Still i would look into the Emu 1212m
that fits your budget:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--EMU1212M
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acidkills
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Posted : Aug 20, 2006 23:09
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THX S.. I was thinking of PCI audiphile but I´ll just buy MIDI cable for start and save some money so I can buy something better.. And I didint even know I have MIDI on my computer, thats why I was gonna buy that card.. But I think this setup will be enough for start..
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texmex
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Posted : Aug 21, 2006 14:44
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On 2006-08-17 09:37, Tweek wrote:
Alesis IO2 Audio interface
M-Audio Midisport 2 x 2 MIDI interface
CME UF 5 keyboard
Novation Nova
I know there's a lot irrelevant stuff in the list above, but. My setup ATM concists of only one HW synth and a load of VST:s, but I'm going to buy one or two more of HW synths in very nearby future.
Wow I'm getting off the question.... So. Basically. Does the interface act as a soundcard or would it be good to buy a PCI card. Cause the way I understand it is, the soundcard processes the sound thus affecting the quality.
Please enlighten me on this one!
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Welcome to the forum!
I was wondering that if you already have Alesis IO2, why do you use the integrated AC97 for anything? I hope have connected the synth to the IO2 not AC97. Soundcard and audio interface are pretty much the same thing. Soundcard is deprecated, as many interfaces are external boxes with usb/firewire connection (there is no "card" in them).
And the quality of the interface affects only your sound quality when recording external synths. If you go 100% software, the interface has no role in the final rendering as everything happens inside your computer using CPU. Only the monitoring is affected. In theory you could make a mixdown without an audio interface, but I guess no sequencer can run without one.
Anyway, if you have already one synth and opt to go for more, I suggest that you just get an interface with more inputs. I'd go for one with Firewire port (firewire is full duplex where as usb isn't). PCI card can be nice too, but if you ever want to change your pc to a laptop, you have to buy a new interface. With firewire device would still have some resell value
The problem with your rig (and mine as well) is that you use both hardware and software synths. This way you get latency problems, because there is certain undefined latency in using Midi while in software there is only one - the audio output latency. It will take some amount of tinkering to get everything in sync. It greatly depends on your sequencer, too.
Anyway, I don't have any specific recommendations about the interface. It's up to your budget. I have Terratec Phase88 and I'm pretty happy with it.
BTW, there's nothing irrelevant in your rig - take one piece away and there's no way to make music
Hope this helps... |
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