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The Mother of all BASSLINES thread
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Aug 27, 2007 17:33
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@Fuzzkitten - Alright..finally found time to sort of work around your steps to making a bassline with vb-1. I've followed all your steps with whatever I could comprehend..so here's the sample.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qjomsz
I've noticed that the bass still has this sort of static or small screechy end to it. Where am I going wrong? Also the volume may sound a little low because I have added any limiter to the master or anything.
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 27, 2007 18:08
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On 2007-08-27 17:33, Bloodclot wrote:
@Fuzzkitten - Alright..finally found time to sort of work around your steps to making a bassline with vb-1. I've followed all your steps with whatever I could comprehend..so here's the sample.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qjomsz
I've noticed that the bass still has this sort of static or small screechy end to it. Where am I going wrong? Also the volume may sound a little low because I have added any limiter to the master or anything.
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Sounds good! I've since learned that highpassing bass with the VB-1 isn't necessary as it's a little light on the low-end anyways.
I don't notice any static or screechiness to the bassline, did a lowpass around 1k not take care of that?
Good growl/meat to it, I like it.
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Aug 27, 2007 21:40
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Here's a sample..I think it's a little more clear now.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/by5wpq
The lowpass actually hasn't sort of cut out that end so to speak. Also when you're talking of going to the second EQ point...where you've mentioned to set the Q at 25 at to cut around 250khz...are we selecting bandpass or...?
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 27, 2007 22:22
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On 2007-08-27 21:40, Bloodclot wrote:
Here's a sample..I think it's a little more clear now.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/by5wpq
The lowpass actually hasn't sort of cut out that end so to speak. Also when you're talking of going to the second EQ point...where you've mentioned to set the Q at 25 at to cut around 250khz...are we selecting bandpass or...?
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Notch cut. The Q setting for the notch will greatly influence the character of the bass. Use all notch cuts except for one lowpass to kill all the high frequencies. |
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Aug 27, 2007 22:49
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Right. Thank you 
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Mr Roboto
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 06:11
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I was hoping to get some feed back on a sample I put together for my bass and kick. I'm using logic's ESM, and a nice kick sample.
I'm still not happy.
http://www.trancepsyndicate.com/uploads/kickbass.zip
Bass: High cut around 2300, High passed around 51 hz. Notched at 44, 285, and 811 hz. Compression-8-1 ratio, attack @ 1 ms, realease @ 100, threshold at -8.5 db, with a soft knee.
Kick: High cut at 1600, High passed @ 38hz. Notched at 31, very tight q, notched at 254, 622, and 811 hz. No compression.
I may be completely off, but I figured if I listed my settings someone might say, "you dip-shit, this is way off".
Thanks in advance. |
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Jaadoo
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 10:45
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I hear a bit of fluctations and crackle and some timing issue. Also, It gives the impression that bass starts too early and stops late. Maybe shorten the bass notes a bit and allowing the kick's lowend to fade out.
BUT ITS IS VERY CLOSE 
my 2c
Ps: Nice to see another Logic User here  https://soundcloud.com/jaadoo |
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Mr Roboto
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 22:07
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On 2007-08-30 10:45, Jaadoo wrote:
I hear a bit of fluctations and crackle and some timing issue. Also, It gives the impression that bass starts too early and stops late. Maybe shorten the bass notes a bit and allowing the kick's lowend to fade out.
BUT ITS IS VERY CLOSE
my 2c
Ps: Nice to see another Logic User here
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Thanks for the feedback. After I posted this, I went back and shifted all the bass notes to the right ever so slightly, and I think your right about shorting them.
As far as fluctuation, and suggetions? Timing and crackle I think I can get a handle on.
Also, it seems most people are using cubase. Logic is such a powerful tool, I couldn't do it any other way. That, and the amount of time of spent learning it , whew. Thanks again, and I'll take your 2c!  |
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Mr Roboto
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 22:39
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On 2007-08-30 10:45, Jaadoo wrote:
I hear a bit of fluctations and crackle and some timing issue. Also, It gives the impression that bass starts too early and stops late. Maybe shorten the bass notes a bit and allowing the kick's lowend to fade out.
BUT ITS IS VERY CLOSE
my 2c
Ps: Nice to see another Logic User here
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By the way, any presets for logic you'd like to share? Def would be greatful. They seem to be hard to come by for logic and psytrance. (ESM, ES2, or any presets)
I have some that I can pass on but nothing to impressive. Sounds like YOU have a good handle on it. Thanks in advance. |
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Jaadoo
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Posted : Aug 31, 2007 18:36
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Hey Robo,
Bass wise I got no Logic synth presets, coz I don't use Logic synths fvery often, but if you wanna use ESM for bass, you should sample it. It has a great and rich sound but it fluctuates, and the factory presets kick ass. For more meat tweak its drive and/or add bass amp(logic).
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MadScientist
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Posted : Sep 4, 2007 05:16
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I would never hicut my kick and bass, and defenately not that low...the power of the kick just sits at 10khz for example
about esm notes I think 3/64th is the best length for them, at least what I figured out...
are you using any other effects on the bassline except eq & compression?
if not try some multiband distortion...should lead you where you want without hicut
https://soundcloud.com/hazak
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punkah
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Posted : Sep 15, 2007 00:55
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@Mad Scientist
but wich multiband distortion is available @ Apple Units format? |
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Jaadoo
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Posted : Sep 15, 2007 02:48
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On 2007-09-15 00:55, punkah wrote:
@Mad Scientist
but wich multiband distortion is available @ Apple Units format?
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i.e iZotope TRASH
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MadScientist
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Posted : Sep 16, 2007 03:05
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exactly, I just use trash for multiband distortion
https://soundcloud.com/hazak
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Jaadoo
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Posted : Sep 16, 2007 03:17
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