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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 1, 2007 22:48
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On 2007-08-01 04:27, 12guga21 wrote:
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>how do you do this???????
Um... Algebra? 
>i can not calculate some shit like that.wooooowww.
Sure you can, you just need the formula and a basic calculator.
To find the seconds in a quarter note for a song, do the following:
1 / (bpm/60) = seconds per beat
So for a 145bpm song it would be:
1/(145/60) = .414 secondsperbeat
A beat is a quarter note. So if you want an 8th note, take your time for a quarter note and divide it by 2. 0.414secondsperbeat/2 = 0.207secondsper8th. For a 16th note, divide a quarter note by 4: 0.414/4 = 0.104secondsper16th.
>okeej. i think my music really sucks.
Why? What I listened to sounded pretty good, certainly coming along. Always room for improvement, but that's what makes it fun/interesting. Don't give up, writing trance is HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD, especially when there are geeks like me throwing formulas around.
>tis is the kind of shit i wanne learn..
1 / (bpm/60) = seconds per beat
>i wanne now how i have to set those "things" good.
Well, no one mixes/tweaks by math but instead by the ear. But it can help to know the ballpark when dealing with milliseconds. If you're compressing 16th notes in a 145 bpm song, you know each 16th note will be around 103ms (1/4 of a quarter note, 0.414s/4 = 0.103s) so your attack/release settings ought to be in that ballpark - maybe a little higher, maybe a little lower, but around that range is when your compressor is going to be in 'time' with the notes. I don't sit and calculate this for every song I write, I just remember that songs around 145bpm will have 16th notes that take around .1seconds, so when I'm tweaking my compressor I know that as I get into that range with the attack/release I'm getting close and I start to listen *REAL* carefully. Remember, always use your ears as the final judge. Always!
>first. i have to learn how compressor really work.
Hehe, you and me both. I'm still learning. Check out this thread - near the bottom I post a bit of Q&A I had with Ott on another forum regarding compression: http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/15412/forum/2/start/45 But don't stop there. Go and read as much as you can about compression, it's a great tool.
>i wanne now everything.
Me too. 
>btw was this calculated for attack or release. maybe stuped....
Neither. I did NOT calculate what your attack and release settings should be - I only calculated the number of seconds that a 16th note plays in a 150bpm song. From that you should better appreciate how FAST things are happening, and that a release time of 3000ms is relatively very slow and that several kicks and bass notes happen before the compressor fully releases. This isn't to say the setting is 'wrong', just awfully high.
>greets and friendly greets
And to you. Namaste!
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Jaadoo
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Posted : Aug 2, 2007 01:22
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Is calculator a music instrument? I didn't know that
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12guga21
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Posted : Aug 2, 2007 15:37
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On 2007-08-02 01:22, Jaadoo wrote:
Is calculator a music instrument? I didn't know that
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yeh its u vst vsti calcmachine. heavy shit  lol
thx for all the good advice dudes.now i can calculate al my music. with my musicalculater(heavy machien) hihi
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mk47
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Posted : Aug 2, 2007 16:01
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don't calculate too much
anyway .. someone posted on the last page .. the waves eqs rnt good for cutting bass .. i don't understand .. so anyway .. wats good eq for treating the bottom .. and if u could .. explain why waves eq isnt good for cutting there etc ..
thnx : )
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 2, 2007 16:38
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On 2007-08-02 16:01, mk47 wrote:
if u could .. explain why waves eq isnt good for cutting there etc ..
thnx : )
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I'd also like to hear any supporting evidence for such a claim. In my experiences the Q-series highpasses aren't that steep and so if I want a real absolute highpass I'll double or triple them up (2-3 highpasses at the same frequency). But I've never noticed a problem using the regular notch cuts.
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mk47
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Posted : Aug 2, 2007 16:43
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i didnt .. i dont know enough about all this .. someone else did and i was wondering the same thing .. and yup .. 6 highpasses at the same freq .. double triple , quadruple ..whatever the slope and u get a brickwall filter .. i picked that up from here : ) ..
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Alias
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Posted : Aug 4, 2007 01:01
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mk47
im using voxengo curveeq......... eq+ spectrum analyzer+ multiband fx built in..... like compressor, distortion....and more!
amazing plugin.....especialy for basslines
http://www.voxengo.com/product/curveeq/
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Overhuman
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Posted : Aug 5, 2007 19:46
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Jaadoo
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Posted : Aug 5, 2007 20:22
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Sounds good to me bro. It is a funky one , kick and bass are both lingering and the bass is really plucked might need some tuning at the mix stage.
Good job
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Overhuman
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Posted : Aug 5, 2007 21:05
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thx jaddoo was wondering why mioght u mean with might some tuning a the mix maybe u mean gain levels?of each ?
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Jaadoo
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Posted : Aug 5, 2007 21:26
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Yes for example those. Once you got your other instruments, such as percussion and leads, then you might need refine it with eq, gain and compressor to sit better in mix.
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Overhuman
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Posted : Aug 5, 2007 21:28
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oh yeah so i was right ; the thing is.. that kick and bass already have eq and comp each:)
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neogen
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Posted : Aug 13, 2007 00:47
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trilogy + Qclone = bassline
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Input
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 00:19
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On 2007-08-01 22:48, fuzzikitten wrote:
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On 2007-08-01 04:27, 12guga21 wrote:
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>how do you do this???????
Um... Algebra?
>i can not calculate some shit like that.wooooowww.
Sure you can, you just need the formula and a basic calculator.
To find the seconds in a quarter note for a song, do the following:
1 / (bpm/60) = seconds per beat
So for a 145bpm song it would be:
1/(145/60) = .414 secondsperbeat
A beat is a quarter note. So if you want an 8th note, take your time for a quarter note and divide it by 2. 0.414secondsperbeat/2 = 0.207secondsper8th. For a 16th note, divide a quarter note by 4: 0.414/4 = 0.104secondsper16th.
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or just download this lovely and helpful calculator-
http://www.brothersoft.com/mp3_audio/misc_plug-ins/bpm_calculator_2004_download_25206.html
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Aug 16, 2007 00:42
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On 2007-08-16 00:19, Input wrote:
or just download this lovely and helpful calculator-
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