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The A.U.M Festival, Full Moon July 2007, North America
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Basilisk
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Posted : May 25, 2007 07:22
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On 2007-05-25 00:22, Lauryn wrote:
I would love to see some Canadian representation at the AUM Festival, I feel that much of the reason for the lack of canadians at AUM is due to the fact that Eclipse is happening at the same time, and most canadian acts/djs are either planning on attending or are playing at the Eclipse Festival.....but maybe i am wrong??? |
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Canada is huge! There are tons of acts and DJs that won't be playing at Eclipse. It may be the biggest festival on this side of the country, but the line-up is mostly international.
So, maybe next year.
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Kyma
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Posted : May 25, 2007 08:42
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Im sad i cant make it either...
but the artists "share" wouldn't cover even half of the costs of flying over there...
its an amazing project, loved it since the beginning...
normally the reason why the national festivals cant pay a lot is because most of their money goes to the BIG names, this one i thought the locals would be treated fairly, which they are, since are all equal, but we already invest so much time and money on music and equipments, that i think the minimum is to have costs covered....
maybe we should ask to the only ones that really make money on the parties for contributions .... lol
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Mistress of Evil
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Posted : May 25, 2007 09:09
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hello!
Just to address some issues:
all of the artists at AUM are receiving an equal payment. We are not covering transportation costs for anyone. We realize that the payment is not much, but when you have over 80 artists it adds up very quickly. The AUM festival is a very DIY (Do it Yourself) type of event, in the radical participatory style of Burning Man. There are no sponsors for the festival, all of the money is coming from our own pockets and from a few very generous community members. AUM is also a not for profit festival. If we break even, any profit will go towards the creation of future AUM festivals - we hope that it will become a bi-annual event.
I hope that clears up some of the financial concerns. We want to be very open and clear about how we are running this festival, so if anyone has any questions or concerns that they would like addressed please do not hestitate to contact us 
peace!
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Kyma
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Posted : May 25, 2007 09:29
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ganika
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Posted : May 25, 2007 12:00
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Perma Fry
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Posted : May 26, 2007 09:32
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I have a question
Where is the Line - up dood 
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Posted : May 26, 2007 18:21
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wichdokta
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Posted : May 26, 2007 19:28
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I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but, the statement of it's a do it yourself festival is a great idea if it's done equally. It's been said that the acts are to pay their own way there, and get paid back $100/150. It's also been said that if you make any money it will go towards the next fest. So, the acts are to bring in revenue for the show and make cheaper for those who throw it in the future. But the acts only get back a fraction of the time and money they put into it no matter what. I throw a free gathering as you all know and know what it takes to do such a thing. I for one would never make money over the acts at one of my events if I was charging. I for one think that if you want to do something like this event, you need to ask yourself why I'm doing it. If it's to throw a festival in hopes that it will cover it's own costs in the future and have the acts draw the patrons to do so but have to pay their own way is ridiculous. I love the idea of bringing the country together, I do it with Gemini. But I don't ask people to fly themselves out to a gathering I'm charging at. Please clue me in on what I'm not understanding. I'm not attacking anyone, so please don't take it as such. |
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famiable
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Posted : May 29, 2007 01:41
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The idea and the intention behind this festival is truly noble and I hope that everything works out for the orgs in the end.
With that being said, the execution of the idea leaves room for improvement. The website still says wrong info about tickets for sale and no one has bothered to even update that?? its May end now and still no pre sale tickets that could provide cash for paying for pre-event expenses? I hope that this is not a sign that I think it is..
It should not be a challenge to be able to come to a festival imho even though it seems to be like one in this case..i just hope that attentendance is not overly affected by these things..i still wish the best of luck to the orgs in this noble effort
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nod
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Posted : May 29, 2007 19:42
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On 2007-05-26 19:28, wichdokta wrote:
I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but, the statement of it's a do it yourself festival is a great idea if it's done equally. It's been said that the acts are to pay their own way there, and get paid back $100/150. It's also been said that if you make any money it will go towards the next fest. So, the acts are to bring in revenue for the show and make cheaper for those who throw it in the future. But the acts only get back a fraction of the time and money they put into it no matter what. I throw a free gathering as you all know and know what it takes to do such a thing. I for one would never make money over the acts at one of my events if I was charging. I for one think that if you want to do something like this event, you need to ask yourself why I'm doing it. If it's to throw a festival in hopes that it will cover it's own costs in the future and have the acts draw the patrons to do so but have to pay their own way is ridiculous. I love the idea of bringing the country together, I do it with Gemini. But I don't ask people to fly themselves out to a gathering I'm charging at. Please clue me in on what I'm not understanding. I'm not attacking anyone, so please don't take it as such.
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richard please...nobody is making any money off of this festival. to be able to buy a $400 plane ticket (as you mentioned in a private email) for every artist would cost around $36000 - and that alone would require 400+ paying attendees to break even. given that we do not expect to do that at the first event of this scale and nature in the US, and that none of us can afford to make this a free festival (or even just a paid-admission-but-we-still-lose-shit-tons-of-cash festival), it sure seems like offering the same amount of money to every artist participating is pretty 'equal'.
as we've mentioned, if there is a surplus (which we really don't expect there to be at this point) it will be saved up so that for the next one we can hopefully afford do things like cover travel costs for the artists participating...basically the point that everybody seems to be missing here is that we really aren't trying to make money on this party - but we aren't in a position where we can offer to completely cover everybody's travel costs, either.
i apologize if this comes across as overly harsh - i'm having a stressful day at work already and that may well be affecting my tone in this post, so if it offends you have a little time to sit and chill before you reply
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DiMiTry
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Posted : May 29, 2007 20:25
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On 2007-05-29 19:42, nod wrote:
to be able to buy a $400 plane ticket (as you mentioned in a private email) for every artist would cost around $36000 - and that alone would require 400+ paying attendees to break even.
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actually, it would require ~400+ attendees just to pay for the artist travel expenses. Venue, sound, infrastructure, medical, deco, video, etc would be extra on top of that. so that's another 150-200 people.
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wichdokta
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Posted : May 30, 2007 17:34
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So, if you make money, your going to save it for 2 years and plan the next one with it. Sounds like you needed 2 years to plan this one. And why not. If this gathering is so special, why not take the time to do it right. The Orb Fest will have way more than 400 people at it. Symbiosis had 1500 last year. If you do things right, people will come. Luckily I can afford to come. But was that the criteria for the lineup, who can afford it? This is a head check from promoter to promoters. I know all of you who are planning this and want a straight answer. The people need to know how this is being ran. If no one is making money at this, than how come if there's money made, it goes towards throwing the next one. Sounds like the promoters stand to make money for the next gathering if the people come. And if not, is this the way it will be ran in 2 years? The collectives of the US that have been putting on shows for years have done so because of their co-ordination. I've seen alot of collectives come and go in my 12 years of promoting because they didn't understand what it takes to do this kind of thing. And I'll see alot more in my next 12 years. |
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ohmy
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Posted : May 30, 2007 18:55
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wow, i am just back from the best party, like ever
darn witchdocta, wish you would have been there.
well, anyways...
whats the issue you are compaining about? that if we are to make money (aum festival) and then we save it to use for the next aum festival, you are losing me on where the problem is in this...
you still coming to play? or is this public recrimination signs of not coming?
we all have jobs man... we aren't the generation of the trustafarians... please make way so we can do our jobs...
I hope you make it, many people are looking forward to your musical energy....
your expertise in organizing events might be limited to a west coast perspective... we are all branching out here to help a bigger community realize itselt..
this is the goal... bringing people together, to make the world better...
its simple
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krisamadhi
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Posted : May 30, 2007 19:06
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KaiserSoze
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Posted : May 30, 2007 19:39
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Artist travel is one of the biggest parts of your budget. Right now you have plenty of artists willing to come out partially on their own dime. However, in the long run it may not be best to rely on acts that can do this. Having a profit share program to cover additional travel expenses may encourage acts to come to future AUM fests without getting their costs fully paid. This will help give you a sustainable source of good acts on the cheap. This could be considered saving money for the future AUM fests.
Generally any act willing to come out on the available funds is fine not getting more if nothing is made at the fest. However, you may be able to pick a couple of more desired acts if you offer additional funds if profit is made.
Some acts may even refuse extra funds even if they are available.
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